Leak shows the HTC Nexus tablet powered by a 64-bit Tegra K1 processor
1. Busyboy (unregistered)
Wow, this will be one hell of a tablet. RIP iPad
11. sgodsell (Posts: 3229; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
I just hope they at least put 3 or 4gb of ram with lots of storage in this puppy. I want to be able to dual boot linux and Android comfortably.
17. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
4+ Gb of RAM please. With 64-bit OS support, this will bury the iToys. Might even munch away at some netbook sales as well.
Timmy claimed the sales hiccup was a 'temporary speed bump'…. Hah! More like the market was expecting a serious Nexus challenge and has deferred purchases until this monster ships.
54. gehrig (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Apr 2014)
Haha. Apple could release a piece of cardboard and people would still buy it. I'm pretty sure Tim knows what he's saying.
35. Iodine (Posts: 1303; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)
Yeah RIP last gen. iPads.
But then won't be surprised when the next gen. will wipe the floor with K1 in efficiency and even in performance.
47. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
behold ipad and tabs, nexus is coming... with this processing prowess, it will be a deamon, ghost recon
2. datsyuk (Posts: 179; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)
Never been really interested in owning a tablet but my god how can I not buy this?
3. fzacek (Posts: 2486; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
Can't wait for this beast. Those specs are looking sweet...
26. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Glad something has cheered up your outlook. RPK was pretty grim for a while.
If the tablet does materialize with these specs, I am definitely going to look at getting one. The Samsung TabPro 8.4 and Galaxy Tab S 8.4 are both really good, but a 64-bit processor would really take things to the next level.
Hopefully there is 4GB+ RAM though.
5. darkvadervip (Posts: 365; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
At the end of the day in real life usage don't nobody use all these specs to their full potential. Wow check emails, play games, write notes, and use apps. All these specs are just to sell tablets. I'm happy with my suface pro 3 for business and my galaxy tab for games and my iPhone 5s for simplicity and reliable in apps and usage.
40. Cicero (Posts: 854; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)
Are you from Saudi Arabia and have a petrol pump in your backyard?
6. alaw.14 (Posts: 227; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)
I wish the 64 bit k1 was quad core, but those haswell-class denver cores are so large and powerful that it would eat up battery life if it was quad core.
14. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 897; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
Don't ever think that the ARM-based Denver is equal with X86-based Haswell. Denver is far more inferior to Haswell. Intel's architecture is always more advanced than their competitor.
18. alaw.14 (Posts: 227; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)
Ofcourse its not going to beat haswell. It performed almost equal to the haswell celeron 2955U in single core test.
28. xfire99 (Posts: 792; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
NVM. its new Denver dual core and not quad core one.
8. GreekGeek (Posts: 1276; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
Will ART runtime be sufficient on non-expandable 16 gb devices?
I hope this'll come with a 32 gb minimum...........
38. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1514; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Nexus devices have been offering option of 16 or 32 GB as of late, so I would expect at least that and hope for a 64 GB option.
9. UnlimitedSkye03 (Posts: 81; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
whoa! 64-bit k1.. now this is the tablet to beat! not those 800/801 equipped
10. DnB925Art (Posts: 947; Member since: 23 May 2013)
Can't wait to read reviews for this beast! If it rates high, this might be my tablet by Christmas time.
12. GreekGeek (Posts: 1276; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
''Tegra has said said that this chip is 1.5 times more efficient than other mobile GPUs, meaning that the power won't sacrifice battery life''
You got to be kidding me.
You got to be kidding me.
Nvidia are notorious for their BS promises....oh well
I'd take it with a grain of salt
16. vincelongman (Posts: 4104; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
But this the reviews are backing up Nvidia's claims this time
E.g. AnadTech did a test with the T-Rex benchmark, the Sheild tablet lasted longer than the Note 3 (800), Tab S 8.4 (Exynos) and a ASUS mini tablet (64-bit Atom)
Unfortunately AnandTech didn't have an iPad or 801/805 tablet in the test, but users are also reporting pretty good battery life
Also max temp of 50C, which on par with the A7/801/805
Before Nvidia's Fermi GPUs were notorious for being inefficient, they were called Thermi because of how hot they got
But now Nvidia's Kelper (in the K1) and Maxwell GPUs are the most efficient dGPUs
Seems like Nvidia's CPUs are now pretty much as efficient as their competition
29. GreekGeek (Posts: 1276; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
I don't know, but, I'd like to see a real review from a consumer with a production model of course.
AnandTech is a fishy site, never trusted them anyways.
If this tablet can indeed deliver (based on Nvidia's claims), I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but right now I'll remain skeptical.
37. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
"AnandTech is a fishy site, never trusted them anyways."
That is wise. AnandTech is basically a better done industry sell out site. They used to have that guy Brian Klug who did mobile reviews and constantly slammed phones with removable batteries and SD cards. He would say things like it is not possible to make a good phone with these features.
These days, they pick and choose very carefully what to say/not say about devices. The bias is better hidden than many sites, but not so hard to see if you look at their site every now and then.
53. rantao333 (Posts: 322; Member since: 21 May 2013)
grow up kid, u dont even know whats u are talking about.
41. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1514; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
There are several reviews both of the Xiaomi Mipad and the Tegra Shield tablet, if you don't know about them is because you don't want to know.
All of them have something in common: great performance with a "normal" battery consumption for the Tegra K1 (4 A15 cores, not Denver)
I can only expect that with Denver CPU performance will get even better with the same power consumption, specially the single core performance should go up to catch up with Haswell lower cores (Celeron and may be Pentium, "cores" not atom based ones)
48. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
yup, I have same views about anandtech... their reviews are usually based on the personal prefference/liking of the reviewer(same like PA)
52. vincelongman (Posts: 4104; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
I thought AnadTech was typically biased in favor of Apple
Their Apple reviews are always more detailed
Anyway, most reviews/users say the Shield tablet's battery life is pretty good or on par with the majority of its competition
Also I have yet to see a review/user mention heating issues
And the 64-bit dual K1 will be more efficient and probably faster than the 32-bit quad core K1
34. Iodine (Posts: 1303; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)
That's nice, but if it runs at close to max GPU load, it's power comsumption is around 7W (ridiculous for mobile), it's temperature is about 85 degrees (potentially silicon damaging temperature) and the battery lasts slightly over 2 hours (a tablet battery), which is barely longer than an iPhone 5S which can run ~114 minutes at full GPU load in similar test on a tiny 6 Wh battery.
Yes it's 2,4 x faster than A7, but also consumes 2 to 3x the power and runs so hot, you can't put it into a phone, even though some 1440p phones would need that. And A7 is a year old chip anyway, but I heavily doubt nVidia will do anything other than comparing their current competition with their next gen. Tegra
42. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1514; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Where did you see that it consumes 2 to 3x the power than A7? Because I read something totally different.
7W may be ridiculous for you, but the A7 consumes MORE than 10W at peak:
50. renz4 (Posts: 317; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
since you don't trust them then are you saying articles like this from anandtech is a lie?
51. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1514; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
And who should I trust then?
Telling I should not trust Anandtech doesn't help at all if you don't tell me who you trust so I can bash them :P
57. Iodine (Posts: 1303; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)
Do you have a idea how much 10 W TDP is ?
It's utterly impossible for A7 to pull anywhere near 10W.
59. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1514; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
That was the complete platform, not just the SoC.
But if you don´t beleve it discuss it with Anandtech.
I think we can trust them in this one as they tend to favor Apple, not to bash them.
But if you have better data and references about your asumption that Tegra K1 consumes 2 to 3 times than A7 (which I find nonesensical) please feel free to add somelthing to the discussion that is not merely based on just your opinion.
13. hellonerds (Posts: 313; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
wow.. nice.. might have to pick one up and keep my note 3 instead of getting the note 4 if its not a 64bit :/ this will be a tablet that i can keep for a good 2 years for sure lol
15. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
I am still kicking it with my 2 year old Nexus 10 as my main gaming tablet despite also having a Nexus 7 2nd gen that is strictly for reading and an iPad Air.
Still not convinced that Suck T C will do this thing justice but we shall see.
31. GreekGeek (Posts: 1276; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
Dude, Nexus 10 lags like a sick turtle, I dunno about your gaming tastes but, you gotta sell it. My brother has one and I only liked the design and the sound as far as aesthetics and audio goes. Everything else is a meh, including the screen
33. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
I am more in line with this video. The screen is still the best tablet screen IMO opinion although I never had a tab pro 8.4.
Much better than my iPad Air screen and that's a nice screen. The Nexus 10 screen is super sharp and crisp.
I think your bro might have a bunk model because 2 years and counting it's the best tablet by far. No issues.
With HTC I expect dead pixels, light bleed, loose buttons, poor finishing on the USB ports. The works like all of their other devices.
The only reason I am in the market for another tablet is that I use it so much that the battery is dying now. I was looking at the tablet Z2 but the screen sucks and the tab pro 8.4 but I am not a fan of touch wiz.
So I might be out of luck.
45. GreekGeek (Posts: 1276; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
The Tab Pro 8.4 has a nicer screen and it is waay snappier.
Held them side by side countless times (bcoz I own a Tab Pro) Some games at the Playstore are simply not optimized for the T604Mali while the Adreno 330 handles everything with ease.
If you can sell it to fund a super-cheap Tab Pro (around $270 online these days) you won't be sorry, trust me.
56. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Yeah the screen is still the high water mark and I only play stuff like Angry Birds and Tower defense anyways. For those types of games the 2 year Nexus 10 is still the best because you can see all the details with that screen.
19. NateAdam8 (Posts: 388; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)
If it comes with a 32Gbs or more and 3-4Gigs of ram this might be the first Android Tablet I've bought.... Ever. I never bothered buying a Android tablet cause my Smartphone had or has a fast processor.
20. needa (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)
i wish this guy would take the time to creare a proper watermark. such an amateur.
22. GalaxyS5 (banned) (Posts: 430; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)
Wowww .. great screen micro sd and you've got my money.
23. Dude2014 (Posts: 435; Member since: 12 Feb 2014)
Nvidia haters are gonna hate! Can't wait this SoC in next mobile devices.
30. Chuck007 (Posts: 1035; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)
If this had more than 2GB RAM I'd most certainly buy to replace my iPad 4.
39. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1514; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
It's mostly certain that it will come AT LEAST with 2 GB of RAM. All the latest products (Nexus 5, Nexus 7) have already 2 GB and if going for a 64bit SoC for sure won't be a regression there.
32. hkxm8 (Posts: 64; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
I really think we may have a new troll with something of hater. Oh no, they just merge?
44. BattleBrat (Posts: 1432; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I am glad I got the Shield Portable, I am super impressed with my HTC ONE M8, and thanks to the shield, dont need to game on the tablet, freeing up the tablet for me to customize to my hearts content, it also allows me to keep the tablet 3+ years. Its amazing how long they'll last when you don't need them for gaming...
46. boosook (Posts: 1419; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
just don't expect it to be cheap, this time.
55. newbey123 (Posts: 553; Member since: 19 Mar 2012)
This tablet has some beast specs and with the high build quality of HTC, this will be my first tablet to buy. Finally, a tablet worth buying. Bring it on Google/HTC
58. julian6.0 (Posts: 27; Member since: 29 Jan 2014)
Seriously man i own a windows phone and love it, lumia1520 to be specific. But been waiting for something like this and im considering it very much i wouldn't mind having an android device with that kind of power could replace my old computer. Hell anything could replace that thing i only use that thing for work other then that my phone is good pretty much for everything else. Coming back to the nexus yes very nice if priced right 399.99 would deff pay for it. Or depending on the ipad mini 3 also will consider depending specs and price yet haven't heard any rumors about that.
60. SemiFinal (Posts: 117; Member since: 26 Jul 2014)
"That's not a bad option"
Lol a little bit of an understatement