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HTC Hima - not One (M9) - expected to be HTC's next flagship, should be launched in March

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HTC Hima - not One (M9) - expected to be HTC's next flagship, should be launched in March
While we’re referring to HTC’s next flagship smartphone as the One (M9), it looks like the handset won’t be called that.

@upleaks - a pretty reliable source until now - reiterates what it was first mentioned in October: HTC will use a different naming scheme for the successor to the One (M8). Right now, the smartphone is codenamed HTC Hima, and is expected to be released in March 2015. Reportedly, all major US carriers will offer the Hima, which is already being tested in carrier labs.

Last we heard, the upcoming HTC flagship was supposed to sport a 5.5-inch display with 1440 x 2560 pixels, and a Snapdragon 805 processor. However, according to @upleaks, the display is a 5-inch 1080p one, while the processor will be a 64-bit Snapdragon 810 (with four cores clocked at 2.0 GHz, and four cores clocked at 1.5 GHz). Other features may include VoLTE, 3 GB of RAM, a 20.7 MP rear camera, and a 2840 mAh battery. Interestingly, the front-facing camera could be either a 13 MP one, or a 4 MP UltraPixel one. The new handset is expected to run Android 5.0 Lollipop with Sense 7.0 UI.

It’s said that there will also be an HTC Hima Ace - a more affordable version of the flagship made for China (and featuring dual SIM support).

We can’t confirm any of the details above, so for now nothing is certain - other than the fact that HTC is undoubtedly preparing a new flagship Android handset for next year.

What do you think, would HTC do the right thing by not calling its next high-end smartphone the One (M9)?

HTC Hima - not One (M9) - expected to be HTC's next flagship, should be launched in March

sources: @upleaks (1), (2), (3), (4)

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posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:44 2

1. vishalaestro (Posts: 81; Member since: 08 Dec 2013)


why the 810 chipset has lower clock speeds when compared to it's previous gen?maybe heating issues ?

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:57 6

9. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3714; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Yes, but the architecture is completely different. Qualcomm is using a reference design now as opposed to their own custom core. You can't compare the two directly in that matter. The 810 will murder the 805 in all-around performance, whereas going from the 800-->801-->805 were all baby steps.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:58 5

10. kalloud (Posts: 148; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)


I'm sure the snapdragon 810 will perform much better than the 805 despite the lower clock speed, it's the architecture that's changed from armv7 32bit to armv8 32bit.
Remember the apple A8 performs similarly to the snapdragon 805 in spite of 1.4ghz vs 2.7ghz.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 13:49

37. torr310 (Posts: 784; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


I suggest to use better quality components for a better user experience than join the spec war.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 14:01

38. Phonedingo (Posts: 386; Member since: 16 Aug 2014)


What are you talking about?

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 14:48 3

43. djm63401 (Posts: 19; Member since: 17 Sep 2012)


If it doesn't have the 810 and atleast a 5.5inc display it will stink

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 15:50 2

47. PaulRivers (Posts: 11; Member since: 22 Jan 2010)


If it *does* have a 5.5" display it will stink.

The m7's 4.7" display and size was great. LG's G2 somehow managed to put a 5.2" screen in an equally comfortable form factor. But even LG couldn't get their 5.5" screen in the g3 to actually be comfortable to hold and use one handed.

If they want to offer 2 sizes like they do for the iPhone - great. But 5.5" is just to damn big for most people who want the phone to be useable one handed.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 15:44

45. Neo_Huang (Posts: 1067; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)


Because it's octa-core...

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:44 16

2. hellbread (Posts: 309; Member since: 21 Nov 2014)


Excellent!
Finally some company stoped supersizing their phones.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:50 13

5. Elusivellama (Posts: 73; Member since: 26 Aug 2014)


About time they realize that 5" is the limit, and 1080p is more than good enough and won't need to suck battery life / performance.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:09 6

14. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3714; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


This is just a rumor like anything else. Don't be fooled for a second into thinking that HTC won't go for BIGGER & MOAR if all the other OEMs are.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:31 1

17. Awalker (Posts: 1395; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


There's a lot of people looking for reasonable sized phones so if HTC sticks with a 5” phone they can have that market all to themselves. They can leave the other OEMs to fight over the big phone market.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:48 2

22. Micah007 (Posts: 254; Member since: 09 Oct 2014)


I always wondered who decides what a reasonably sized phone is........

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:52 3

23. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3714; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Right. It's funny how people are so egocentric. Resonable for me = reasonable for most people apparently. Gotta love that line of thinking.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:00 4

24. Elusivellama (Posts: 73; Member since: 26 Aug 2014)


Are you dumb? Did someone decide that size 12 shoes are too big for most people, or that refrigerators should be of a certain size, or that car steering wheels should not be too tiny or too large?

In this case, the average size of a person's hand - across genders - dictates how useable a phone is in one hand, and 5" is the limit. I did not decide this, nor did anybody else. The average size of peoples' hands dictates this.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:03

25. Micah007 (Posts: 254; Member since: 09 Oct 2014)


And how would you know the average size of peoples hands or what they are comfortable holding in their hands.......I've met so many people who have small hands and the moment they picked up the Nexus 6, LG G3 or the Iphone 6+ they fell in love with it and now say that they love using one despite having smaller hands. Not to mention they can still use said devices with one hand.........your argument is invalid. Also none of your examples apply here at all.

posted on 05 Dec 2014, 03:34

62. Fellwalker (Posts: 305; Member since: 04 Apr 2014)


According to Wikipedia, the average length of an adult male hand is 189 mm, while the average length of an adult female hand is 172 ...

Why does it matter how many small handed people you know? Average means there will be larger and smaller. So one size does not suit all.

Have a look athttp://roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Human/Human_sizes.html for details of average and top and bottom 5%.

posted on 05 Dec 2014, 03:52

63. Fellwalker (Posts: 305; Member since: 04 Apr 2014)


And if you look at polls conducted by various Web sites, you will see over the years a preference expressed for increasingly larger phones. (by tech savvy people who read such sites!)
Phone Size is a matter of preference but hand size is a matter of fact.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:36 3

30. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3714; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Wow. And you call me dumb. You're hilarious. Were you saying that 5" is the perfect screen size for a phone 3 years ago? According to what you're saying, that should have been the case then, right? I'm guessing average human size hasn't changed much in that time. I'm going to call you Steve Jobs. If he was still alive, do you think he would still be saying that 3.5" is the perfect size for a phone? Maybe I should call you Bill Gates because apparently 640K ought to be enough memory for everyone. Have fun in your box.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 13:41

36. Elusivellama (Posts: 73; Member since: 26 Aug 2014)


The key point is ONE-HAND use.

ONE.
HAND.
USE.

ONE HAND USE.

1 HAND USE. Usage in one hand. The use of one hand to manipulate a phone.

>> Were you saying that 5" is the perfect screen size for a phone 3 years ago? According to what you're saying, that should have been the case then, right?

If your strawman argument were any weaker, he'd be getting sand kicked in his face.

>> If he was still alive, do you think he would still be saying that 3.5" is the perfect size for a phone?

You're comparing me to a dictator, and dictators' decisions are always right - in their minds. So yes, he would still be saying that 3.5" is the perfect size for a phone because he was a dictator and destroyed / fired anybody who disagreed with him.

>> apparently 640K ought to be enough memory for everyone.

How does 640k of computer memory have any relation to the average size of the human body? Once again... think about what you're saying before you try to argue with the big boys.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 14:14 2

39. Micah007 (Posts: 254; Member since: 09 Oct 2014)


"How does 640k of computer memory have any relation to the average size of the human body? Once again... think about what you're saying before you try to argue with the big boys."

Your one to talk considering you tried to compare a refrigerator, steering wheel and shoes to a smartphone.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 14:21 2

40. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3714; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I don't even need to say more. He can throw in refrigerators & steering wheels, but I talk about memory & I'm out of bounds. I think he needs to look up the definition of hypocritical in the dictionary. In fact, scratch that. What's your address, Llama? I'll send you one for Christmas. Once you learn to not break your own rules, then YOU can come argue with the big boys. Nice try though.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:40

20. NoFanboy (Posts: 298; Member since: 18 Nov 2013)


Idk upleaks is pretty reliable. Uses same sources as evleaks.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:25 1

27. milesboy5 (Posts: 176; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)


My limit on a screen size is 5-5.2 anything larger or smaller than that is either a phablet in my eyes or just to small to enjoy certain things. To me Quad HD isn't a bad thing if OEM's optimize the battery and chipset to handle such a resolution.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 20:11

56. drunkenjay (Posts: 859; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)


supersizing is not a problem if you have less bezels. htc and sony are notorious for huge bezels. look at the lg g3. its a similar size to the htc m8 yet its 5.5 inches

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:48 4

3. hboy857 (Posts: 349; Member since: 03 Jun 2013)


And god, they're not putting Ultra gimmicky QHD display. And HTC get rid of that front HTC logo. I'll be rooting for you success.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:48 9

4. GeorgeDao123 (Posts: 423; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)


Full HD? Excellent. I hate 2K display. Nothing better but battery draining. Good job, HTC.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:53

31. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


Yup. Stick with FHD. Don't waste money on the QHD.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:51 5

6. jove39 (Posts: 1819; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Thank God, HTC had sense to stick with 5" 1080p display for phone, may other OEM learn from HTC. I am sure phone rendition is pure imagination but it looks really good :)

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 15:46

46. Neo_Huang (Posts: 1067; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)


I sense what you did there.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:52 4

7. jan25 (Posts: 470; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)


Kudos to HTC for skipping QHD. I would've wished for a 5.5 screen but that's not a biggy.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:57 5

8. xtroid2k (Posts: 515; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)


I'm perfectly satisfied with a 5' 1080p dislpay. Can't wait

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 17:14 3

51. GoBears (Posts: 448; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


5 foot? Try sticking that in your skinny jeans lol J/K!

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 18:15

52. Phonecall01 (unregistered)


Ha ha !!

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:58 3

11. Mena13Suvari (Posts: 28; Member since: 25 Sep 2014)


I`m absolutly in love with HTC One M8, its best looking Android smartphone ever (from Eclair to Lollipop) but estetics isnt their selling point unfortunantly, that title goes to Apple. They need high-end spec, display included. At 5" I dont even need more than 720p, but Sony, Samsung and LG will come out with 2K displays and mass market will respond in such a manner that they will go two possible ways - looks (iPhone) or specs. And only basically alternative ppl will chose HTC, which is unfortunate. HTC One M8 is clearly best smartphone out there, just incredible piece of technology.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:07 1

12. hamad138 (Posts: 7; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)


5,2 FHD , then perfect

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:09 1

13. ryq24 (Posts: 689; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


With the success of iPhone 6 plus htc might have to change the screen back to 5.5"!

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:35

18. Awalker (Posts: 1395; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


I think the iPhone 6 is outselling the 6+ by a 1 to 3 or 1 to 4 margin in the US.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 13:22

35. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Yes, but I was expecting more like 9:1. I didn't think there was that much demand for an Apple phablet. Although it does improve on the 6 in other ways (pixel density, OIS.)

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:12 1

15. scarface21173 (Posts: 129; Member since: 17 Aug 2014)


They should just copy what Motorola are doing just call it the HTC ONE 2015 and so on.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:37 1

19. vuyonc (Posts: 987; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


Single letters, numbers, codes and years are lame these days. Hima should be the final name. The design of a phone ultimately starts with its name and Hima sounds cool ;).

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 13:00

33. Rager722 (Posts: 319; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


Hima sounds so Asian.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 13:22 1

34. azzak (Posts: 26; Member since: 15 May 2014)


because HTC is Taiwanese (an Asian) company bro !!

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 14:30 1

41. Rager722 (Posts: 319; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


I know that, I own a M8 but for the other markets it doesn't sound good.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:21

26. UglyFrank (Posts: 1581; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


They basicslly did that with Htc One & HTC One (m8)

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:23 1

16. Awalker (Posts: 1395; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


If the specs are accurate the "Hima" will be my first HTC phone.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:46

21. Micah007 (Posts: 254; Member since: 09 Oct 2014)


If these rumors are true sadly it looks like I'm scratching the Hima off of my potential phones list.............

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:25

28. fzacek (Posts: 2486; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


I'm really disappointed by the S810's big.LITTLE architecture. It would perform much better if it had 8 identical, high-power cores that could all run at the same time...

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:28

29. vandroid (Posts: 327; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


I hope they go back with capacitive buttons. Highly doubt 4mp front facing camera since the m8 has a 5mp. Those onscreen buttons and the camera made me dislike the m8.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:58 2

32. B-power (Posts: 241; Member since: 22 Feb 2014)


Let's hope thet slim down on the bezels. Speakers may stay.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 14:41 1

42. cGmC11 (Posts: 136; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)


I don't think that HTC will skip the QHD 1440p screen, unless it will break the barriers of 4K 2160p smartphone screen.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 15:41 1

44. aveese (Posts: 22; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


i hope they don't use that name in the philippines lol

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 15:53

48. jlbora23 (Posts: 14; Member since: 28 Oct 2012)


If they don't use 810 with a 5.5" QHD display and 20.7 sony lense and 5mp front shooter with 3-4 gb ram and at minimum 3300mah but should go after a 3750-4000mah power supply, they will fall flat on their face!

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 16:18

49. Af1rPA (Posts: 672; Member since: 12 Jun 2014)


What's the point of having a 20mpx cam if its going to be on a 5inch screen. I say bump it up to 5.5 and just have thinner bezels. Obviously leave some room for front speakers.
I always use 2 hands. Bigger screens make browsing and youtube so much better.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 19:20

53. Gregor (Posts: 34; Member since: 26 Nov 2013)


5" FHD screen, good decision.
But HTC, please don't forget:
- metal unibody (a la M8) with metallic speaker grills on the front too(a la M7)
- built in FM radio (a la M7 and M8)
- OIS (a la M7)
- small bezels, no black bar
- low sar values (a la M8)
- gunmetal colour (a la M8)

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 19:31

54. Gregor (Posts: 34; Member since: 26 Nov 2013)


- and optical zooming as promised: pocket-lint.com/news/128522-htc-looking-to-add-opt​ical-zoom-on-htc-one-m9-and-other-2015-phones

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 19:52

55. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3714; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


You're of those people who will get upset if it doesn't happen. Show me where they promised anything in that article.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 20:32

57. Gregor (Posts: 34; Member since: 26 Nov 2013)


You're right. To be precise, it was only a half-promise and a desire from HTC (and me:) ).
But the technology exists, see two different examples: 1) techxplore.com/news/2014-10-optical-mobile-boost-d​ynaoptics.html 2) phonearena.com/news/Smartphone-camera-with-optical​-zoom-This-technology-can-help_id53209

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 22:02

58. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3714; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I know the technology exists, but they didn't even half promise it. Such a thing doesn't exist. A promise is an absolute. You can't half promise something.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 22:32 2

59. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


If this ends up being much more compact than the M8, like it should be. I'll be the first to give HTC props for it but let's just say I have zero faith in them pulling that off.

A phone with a 5 nah screen has no business being bigger than a GS4 or Nexus 5. If speakers make it bigger, take the speakers. It's obvious no one needs it if they are happy with the iphine 6 speakers.

If HTC can pull off Nexus 5 footprint, at 7.9mm and front facing speakers, I'll give them props. Because I am pretty sure Samsung will with the GS6.

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