Eric Schmidt pledges Google's support to manufacturers in patent lawsuits
Much of the manufacturing and supply chain for Android hardware comes from Taiwan, so it seems Schmidt wanted to reiterate Google's promise. This may have been motivated by the recent news which came from the Steve Jobs biography that Jobs had made it his mission to "destroy Android". Google has already gifted nine patents to HTC for its defense against Apple, and HTC quickly used those patents to counter-sue Apple.
During the trip, Schmidt told reporters, “We tell our partners, including the ones here in Taiwan, we will support them. For example we have been supporting HTC in its dispute with Apple because we think that the Apple thing is not correct.”
source: Reuters via The Next Web
2. rendHELL (Posts: 304; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
IT is really a bad day for Apple!!!
When it rains it pours...
When your up on the top and suing people, Im sure you will fall down sooner or later.... and be counter-sued.... XD
22. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I wonder what this means for Microsoft...
25. rendHELL (Posts: 304; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
thats a good question.... i hope somebody has an idea...
10. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Cupertino is a city. Wipe the drool from your mouth and repost "destroy Apple"
Did you squirt in your pants?
13. hunted (Posts: 359; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)
i know it's a city, it has apple in it!! if you dont understand please get out
4. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Google should be worry about the Nexus launch... to make sure the release goes flawless as they cant take another nexus flop... is fine though.. Apple will stlil stand...
5. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Hmm the Nexus line was never intended to be a commercial success story, it was a developer phone and a canvas for OEMs to use and draw inspiration from, so it very much accomplished its purpose, which means it was never a flop, Google wants you googling things, they don't care if you do it from a Nexus, iPhone, BlackBerry, PC, etc.
8. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Oh you mean like the Nexus One being one of the biggest tech disappointments in 2010? Or did you not read the PcMagazine article on the internet?
14. robinrisk (unregistered)
Miz, honey, dont be that stupid.
The nexus one promoted big screens, lack of a keyboard and several other innovating features to be implemented on android.
The nexus line is to set standards, not to be sold by the millions.
18. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
@robinriskwow I didnt know they make phones for those purpose other than sale...... hmmmm please come up with a better excuse
16. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
miz, the nexus1 was device of the year if i remember correct.
it was never intended to be a sales smash, otherwise they would have put it in store and advertised it. It was intended as a developer/enthusiast phone to demonstrate the best of the best at the time in android.. and its aged pretty darn well.
19. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
ok wait for the Nexus galaxy flop and see what excuse you come up with.
23. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it wont flop if it actually launches in carriers.. it will sell in spades. for the same reason that people gravitate to the SGS2 without knowing anything about it.. that big beautiful screen. Add ICS and top end hardware performance, and it will sell well for a good while.
Technogeeks like me might pass it up knowing the tegra3 is so close, if it waits too long to launch, but the bulk of the population will buy it in spades.
What sales would you call a flop gallito?
26. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
well considering it has ICS, the beautiful screen... breath taking specs... more the the renovated iphone4S... right?.... why aim any lower...you have all it takes (specs ) to dethrone the king of sales... and the Razr should top the nexus.. and so forth....
28. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
like normal your arguement holds no merrit (or readability)
for all those that assume 2 months after an android phone comes out, it no longer sells, I point you to the SGS1. The #1 and #2 selling smartphones in my store (and probably most tmobile stores) are the SGS2 and the SGS1. The SGS2 is new sure.. but the SGS1 is like 15 months old or older. What older android phones (and yes some new ones too) were lacking was that little bit of individuality and high quality. Samsung has proved that if you make the phone right.. even an android phone.. it will continually sell and sell and sell. The HTC Evo did the same thing.. it just kept on selling...
So instead of blaming android for short sales.. .blame the manufacturers.
For the most part, the last year saw huge improvements in quality and features, so I would expect to see the good phones continuing to sell longer and longer as they start to make individual brand names for themselves.. which is something new to the android world. Droid.. Galaxy.. evo.. those are brand names that sell on the name, much like iphone does. The nexus.. in store.. will be a best seller for a year or even more. It has the beauty, the brand, the power, and the constant updating that many want.
32. protozeloz (Posts: 5383; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
nexus is not meant to be a selling machine.
6. rf1975 (Posts: 250; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
Yes. He should support them. Because other manufacturer did not know that the Android has got some stolen concept and unofficially copied java source code in it.
15. robinrisk (unregistered)
And google did not use java code ilegally. That code was open source until oracle bought Sun Microsistems. Oracle sued after the code was implemented.
34. rf1975 (Posts: 250; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
I think you do not have any idea about mobile JAVA. Although Java is open source, Oracle (Sun) charges a licensing fee for Java platform on mobile and embedded device (Java ME). Google use this technology without any licensing fee.
7. Rikkirik (Posts: 7; Member since: 07 Nov 2011)
Google should not be worried about Apple. The companies that Google should be worried about are Microsoft and Oracle. In the Oracle case against Google, it has already been proven that Google willingly infringed on the patents of Oracle's Java. The only question at the moment is how much will Google have to pay Oracle. This means that Google partners won't have any choice but to pay up once Oracle comes collecting. Secondly, it's funny how Schmidt only talks about those manufacturers in patent lawsuits. Does he mean that he won't contend the licensing deals that Microsoft already sealed with Samsung, HTC, Amazon etc for the use of Android and Chrome?? And if that's the case, what does this mean for the patent lawsuit of Microsoft against Motorolla?? Schmidt is the only one who truly believes he can protect other companies from patent lawsuits from it's rivals. What a sorry case.
12. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Google's strategy of steal and worry later seems to be backfiring. This could end up changing the mobile landscape.
11. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Google screwed these companies by stealing ideas and source code and then giving it away. This protects Google, but puts these companies in the line of fire.
Unfortunately the lion has been woken. Apple will smash down justice on them.
17. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
considering Apple started suing first and google tried to play nice, i think you have that backwards. The green giant is mad and is going to make some applesauce.
20. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
nop it was not Apple that starting suing first.... google it...
31. protozeloz (Posts: 5383; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
No.... Apple.... sued...... HTC.... then.... moto..... got.... into the game
21. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
It's clear you don't know the real story behind the suing stuff.
Google used to have a good partnership with apple. They still have a good partnership but it's a bit weaker then before.
Google bought android (2003, I think). And when they released it, Steve jobs saw many things that were to similiar with ios. You have to keep in mind iPhone launch (2007) android (2008). Google knew about iPhone develepment. But google made android without telling apple a single thing. This just looked a bit like betrayal.
But android based on linux and unix before.
And ios based on mac os x and also unix before.
So yes google must be build defensive now. Google even wanted to give money to apple but steve jobs declined and made a sort of war. But these are no reasons to dislike both companies.
24. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
oh, i dont dislike apple for iOS. I dislike the company as a whole. I dont like their philosophy on things, their selfish attitudes, lack of corperate responcibility, or their dismal record on human rights .
i dont like iOS because i like functionality over smoothness.. the steak more than the sizzle. I've had or tried pretty much every major OS. For now, I stick with android until something better comes a long. From the looks of it, my only alternate choice at this point is WP7.. once it matures a little more.
33. rf1975 (Posts: 250; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
You said "i like functionality over smoothness"
then you said "my only alternate choice at this point is WP7". I think some thing is wrong in this statements.
29. protozeloz (Posts: 5383; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Thanks! But my bet half people will actually listen to you, they will keep crying thief "we demand justice " and other crap they would like to believe its true. But I guess is how things turn around these days
35. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
You forgot the part that Eric Schmidt sat on Apple's board and was privy to Apple's R&D, strategy, etc.
Schimdt was so CONFLICTED he had to resign.
30. protozeloz (Posts: 5383; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Companies like Samsung and others joined Google willingly so it's not Googles fault, they saw potential and the ability to increase and better their smartphone market. Now Google is working on making their partners a better place
27. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Shouldn't Google be trying to stop or stem the fragmentation of android. The more android gets fragmented, it ends up harming the android ecosystem. It's a already a known fact due to the fragmentation, android phones have higher repair rates than its competitor.
To me Google is not keeping its eye on the ball, the patent issue is small and minor comparing to the diverse android user base. Any consumer who wants to have access to the latest and greatest version of android has to shell out the big bucks and then there's no guarantee you will get that new version. Or, the customer can buy a low to mid-range phone and be stuck with that version of android for life.
These are serious problems for Google to resolve.
36. Firedrops (Posts: 216; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
Is it me or is there a typo on the second word of this post? "Fear now"?
37. SuperEd (Posts: 114; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Google\'s going into the hurt locker with all the MS deals going on with their phone mfgs. Kinda like pay up or patent you own inventions. Google does nothing but is a HUGE leach.