Steve Jobs vowed revenge on Eric Schmidt over Android

Steve Jobs vowed revenge on Eric Schmidt over Android
Monday will bring one (of likely many) biographies on Steve Jobs. This one by Walter Isaacson includes the story of the falling out between Steve Jobs and Eric Schmidt. The story has been leaked to the New York Times and Associated Press (likely to stir up free advertising for said book,) and it's a pretty interesting one. 

Of course, Eric Schmidt was on the board at Apple from 2006 to 2009, while also acting as CEO of Google. The two companies eventually started competing with each other through iOS and Android, so Schmidt left Apple's board. When Steve Jobs saw Google release Android, he apparently felt it was a great betrayal, and told Isaacson that he felt Android was a "stolen product." Jobs was especially angered with a January 2010 Android device by HTC, which Jobs felt had many of the features of iOS including multitouch. 

Apple has since sued HTC and other Android manufacturers multiple times. Jobs told Isaacson:

Also, when Jobs and Schmidt met at the cafe in Palo Alto, Jobs also told Schmidt:

Thermonuclear war seems quite extreme, especially given that as far as Jobs was concerned Apple had never stolen an idea from any other company ever. Still, it does give insight into the rash of lawsuits between Apple and Android handset makers. It will be interesting to see if Jobs' vendetta against Android continues now that he has passed. Stories like these are tough, but even though Steve was a genius, he did have a darker side and had a hand in some terrible things the least of which is this vendetta.



1. readingthissh1t

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11. sexybear

Posts: 6; Member since: Dec 13, 2010

U Mirn bro, come at me Bro.

189. ayephoner

Posts: 858; Member since: Jun 09, 2009

Michael, I question some of what you have here. How can you claim that Jobs thought Apple never stole any idea? Wasn't Jobs known for regurgitating the 'great artists steal' quote? And you say Jobs had a hand in some terrible things, the least of which was this vendetta. Maybe I'm reading that wrong, or the wording is slightly off, but would be the worst of things he had his hand in? I'm not a blind Jobs follower, but it seems you imply that he had a tremendous dark side with your last sentence. Or is that what you meant?

190. ibap

Posts: 867; Member since: Sep 09, 2009

Note that he said "as far as Jobs was concerned", and look up "irony" in the dictionary.

193. ayephoner

Posts: 858; Member since: Jun 09, 2009

youre right. i didnt pick up on the ironic tone at first (was first thing in the morning). i also read some of michael's comments down the list here and saw his explanation of this stuff. i still think these two view points are a bit skewed though.

202. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

got to remember, this guy is trying to sell a book and make a buck off a dead guy. Not everything in the book is going to be 100% accurate. This may or may not be.. or it could be a story fluffed up for better dramatic effect. noone knows but steve and eric

226. jogutier

Posts: 324; Member since: Feb 12, 2010


258. Astreo

Posts: 105; Member since: May 05, 2011

your post was SO helpful and well thought out that i decided to thumb you...down. Of course none of this biography is going to be 100% accurate. like people said, he needs to make money and what dead guy is going to argue with him?

244. NeXoS

Posts: 292; Member since: May 03, 2011

What if Palm asked Steve, "I just want you to stop using our ideas in your phone and claiming them as your own!"

261. Ivan6479

Posts: 250; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Very well said!!

265. Ray386

Posts: 8; Member since: Oct 24, 2011

I completly agree with you

2. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2389; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

Kinda sad since Android is still going stronger than ever...

85. 530gemini

Posts: 2198; Member since: Sep 09, 2010

@drphil. Yes. Thanks to Apple :)

191. iankellogg

Posts: 155; Member since: Jun 15, 2011

I don't see how it is because of apple. I have been with android since the beginning and there was never anything that looked like iOS did. For the record, I also know that before the iPhone android looked like blackberry but who knows, the project was bought up by google so who knows when they changed it.

245. NeXoS

Posts: 292; Member since: May 03, 2011

It's true, it's all thanks to Apple. They can't innovate anymore, lost Samsung as a supplier, and have resorted to suing their competition over baseless patents. Thank you Apple!

259. Astreo

Posts: 105; Member since: May 05, 2011

Lost samsung as a supplier? im sorry but do you NOT read the news on here stating that Apple is STILL their largest customer and were in fact negotiating contracts and extensions?

266. Ray386

Posts: 8; Member since: Oct 24, 2011

how is it thanks to apple there is nothing innovative about the iphone at all the software has looked the same for 5 years now with incremental upgrades

59. Lucas777

Posts: 2137; Member since: Jan 06, 2011

nah hes just a d**k… u dont say steve jobs is an idiot once hes dead… u may hate apple but nobody can deny how intelligent steve jobs was…

62. jacko unregistered

u dont have to be intelligent to steal or copy ideas

65. Lucas777

Posts: 2137; Member since: Jan 06, 2011

like what.. please explain! because what did the mac directly copy? if i remeber righ the apple 2 was the first graphical interface computer… oh right what did the ipod directly copy… oh right what did the orig. iphone directly copy… oh right what did the ipad directly copy… and just to show u, if he copied all these things, where was the succesful product beforehand that was so great he just had to copy it?

73. whatevs

Posts: 18; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

I rely on apple computers everyday for my job, and have for the past 13 years. Innovation and perpetual genius continuum! Stability! Performance! And it just so happens that the iphone is a sweet truffle on the side. Yessir.

224. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

ever hear of Xerox? you realize that Apple pays Nokia a fat amount of its profits per device and a huge lump settlement for all the nokia patent infringements it had. Apple is a notorious thief. But then, so is everyone else.

260. chaitanya.alur

Posts: 6; Member since: Oct 21, 2011

hmm...if all of those are copied..then what happened to the originals..??? and why only apple products are widely accepted and not others..n why they always create new phase and standard in the industry??

102. Satya

Posts: 5; Member since: Aug 19, 2011

yes thats what exactly Google did, copied ideas..

267. Ray386

Posts: 8; Member since: Oct 24, 2011

you say google copied the ideas from apple how is that. Andriod looks nothing like an I phone, but what about I phone imessage came from bbm there notification software is a direct copy from android and icloud that is also a correct copy from android. Android has been using cloud services for years now and once again people like you dont realize that most of the technology in a iphone is outdated now a days or copied and when you see it on an android device you say that its copied. When the truth is it all ready existed on these other devices and apple copied them

103. Satya

Posts: 5; Member since: Aug 19, 2011

thats exactly what google did, no intelligence so copied ideas..

218. catfacepanda

Posts: 16; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

You can't say that one copied the other and not agree that if one did, then they both took from each other. It's a complete idiot statement to even attempt to "protect" an operating system. Ideas come from somewhere, sometimes they are original, and sometimes not. Get over yourselves.

82. Ravail

Posts: 182; Member since: Oct 14, 2011

my apologies if my statement came across the wrong way. Didn't mean to piss anyone off. im just saying Apple is pissed cause Android is a threat.

86. 530gemini

Posts: 2198; Member since: Sep 09, 2010

@revail. Steve was pissed because Google stole a lot of Apple's ideas. Why else would Apple felt betrayed by Eric? Your mentality is twisted. Producing and selling your own cellphone is not stealing. Copying how others made their cellphones, is stealing.

104. jkapster

Posts: 50; Member since: Dec 15, 2010

The funny thing is that steve jobs said himself "I've been shameless about stealing great ideas...." so why should he be mad if eric did to him what he did to other?

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