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Apple announces iOS 5, a major release
UPDATE: links to streaming the entire WWDC 2011 keynote presentation, as well as the iOS 5 Preview video can be found here.

Apple ushered its mobile operating system iOS in a new era today, announcing its fifth iteration, which brings along major updates. Steve Jobs himself took the stage at the Moscone Center in San Fransisco in the beginning of the keynote, but it was Apple's Scott Forstall who announced the inclusion of more than 200 new features in iOS 5, which is supposed to grace Apple's devices this fall.

These include the iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, iPod touch 3rd and 4th generation, as well as the iPad and iPad 2, plus whatever new phone comes later this year, of course.

After bragging about 425 000 applications in the App Store, $2.5 billion shelled out to developers, and 225 million credit card accounts linked to Apple's ecosystem, iOS 5 was unveiled, calling it a "major release", and ten new features were listed as most important.

First on the chopping block was the old intrusive way of doing notifications. We now have the so-called Notification Center, which appears when you swipe down from the top of the screen, much like on Android handsets. There you have your messages, calendar alerts, email and social networking updates and app updates, as well as stock and weather widgets on top, but no word if they will be updated live. These notifications will also jump on the lock screen, with one-swipe access directly to the app that created them.

iOS 5 Notification Center
iOS 5 Notification Center
iOS 5 Notification Center

iOS 5 Notification Center


Newsstand

Newsstand

Next up was Newsstand, which lists all your magazines and newspapers like on a bookshelf. A lot of major publishers seem to be onboard, and there is to be a dedicated section of the App Store for subscription stuff, so if this doesn't get us into the new era of consuming old-school printed media, we don't know what will. Newsstand integrates and manages all your subscriptions, and allows you to purchase and download issues for offline viewing.

Feature number three was deep Twitter integration with one-time login in Settings, contacts integration, and with many apps, like Camera and Photos, taking advantage of the Twitter invasion in iOS 5. Safari and Maps are also Twitter-ified, and a new API is given to developers who want to integrate the single Twitter sing-in it in their own apps.

Twitter integration in iOS 5
Twitter integration in iOS 5
Twitter integration in iOS 5

Twitter integration in iOS 5


Mobile Safari, in its turn, gets new features too, like a button in the address bar called Safari Reader, which cleans out all the distractions while you are reading a story, sets the right font size, and leaves simply text and pictures - we certainly like the idea. Apple called Safari "the best mobile browser out there", and if by distractions it meant Flash, then no wonder why. A Reading List function is added, to save a story for reading later, which automagically appears as pending on all your iOS devices afterwards. What's more, the browser now supports tabbed browsing, which looks like, well, tabbed browsing - tap on a tab, and you are making its content active.

Apple announces iOS 5, a major release
Apple announces iOS 5, a major release
Apple announces iOS 5, a major release

Next on the list of novelties in iOS 5 is the Reminders app which allows you to store multiple lists, and even assign a location to them, for example to remind you to call someone when you leave or arrive in a certain area. Reminders can sync between multiple devices, and also with your calendar.

There is a new way to access Camera in iOS 5, with the app icon straight on the lock screen taking you to the interface, and pressing volume up to take a photo as you would with a dedicated one-stage shutter key. You can also now hold down your finger in the camera interface to autofocus and highlight the exposure on a precise area in the frame, which should help with the under/over exposure troubles of the shooter. Pinch-to-zoom in the frame is possible now directly in the Camera app, and some simple on-device editing like crop, rotate, red-eye reduction and automatic enhancement enter the stage with iOS 5. In the Photos app you can also organize your pictures in albums straight on the device.

Apple announces iOS 5, a major release
Apple announces iOS 5, a major release
Apple announces iOS 5, a major release

Apple announces iOS 5, a major release
The Mail app has received an overhaul, too, with RTF, flagging of messages, draggable email addresses between address fields, and search within the whole content of the message. There is also a new formatting bar in Mail, with bold, italics, underline and indention controls. A universal dictionary has been built into iOS 5, for use across all applications.

Split-up keyboard for easier thumb typing on a tablet

Split-up keyboard for easier thumb typing on a tablet

The onscreen keyboard can now be split in two, for easier thumb-typing on a tablet, for example, much like what Microsoft demonstrated the other day is to come with Windows 8 on tablets. Good, no more pecking with one finger on the iPad now. On a sidenote, the iPad 2 also gets AirPlay Mirroring - the ability to mirror its screen wirelessly to an HDTV via the Apple TV hockey puck.

Apple announces iOS 5, a major release
Gone are the activation and syncing that required hooking your device to a computer, it can now all be done wirelessly. Also, when you take it out of the box, it will activate over the Internet and that's that. And finally OTA system app updates are being introduced, which will only update what's changed in the new version, instead of reinstalling the whole thing.

Game Center with profile photos

Game Center with profile photos

That Game Center thing? Yes, it finds its way into iOS 5 with 50 million users already, with the ability to add photos to your profile. Game Center is quite social - it allows you to share scores and see game recommendations from your friends. Games can also be purchased and downloaded directly from Game Center.

And, finally, the dubbed BBM-killer iMessage was announced, for all iOS users, regardless if they are on an iPad, iPod touch or an iPhone, over Wi-Fi or 3G. You can send text messages, contacts, pictures, videos, and it also supports group messaging. Delivery and read receipts come standard with iMessage, and you can also see when someone on the other side is typing, with the whole conversation being encrypted.

iMessage is an instant messaging network for all iOS users
iMessage is an instant messaging network for all iOS users
iMessage is an instant messaging network for all iOS users

iMessage is an instant messaging network for all iOS users


Those were the ten major feature updates announced today at Apple's WWDC 2011 event. Some of them were expected, others come as quite a surprise, and some of them were long overdue. What do you think, is this major iOS update all you've been waiting for?

source: Apple via Engadget

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posted on 06 Jun 2011, 13:44 10

1. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Again, most of the major things in this release are ripped off of other OSes. It's shameful, really. I foresee a TON of lawsuits.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 13:49 14

3. SomeGuy (unregistered)


It seems that Google, BB, and Apple have all been borrowing from one another for the latest OS updates. I think it's good that they have all seen weaknesses in their OS's and are acting accordingly.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 16:35 3

61. ayephoner (Posts: 836; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


Sniggly, you're absurd. first, apple claimed very little today to be done first (admittedly, they were almost certainly wrong when they did). they claimed they have done it better, which is yet to be seen, but very believable. second, apple and their customers could care less about originality, they want functionality. they are both just happy that these steps are being made. third, you're a salesman? i hope you had today off, because you've been on here posting about a competitor's product to people you dont know or see ever. go get to work.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 18:45 4

89. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Yeah. I had today off.

And fyi, it's not so much whether Apple claims originality on these concepts; it's the fact that they sue EVERYONE for doing stuff they did first, and now they're blatantly ripping off of their four major competitors in the OS business.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 19:01 2

97. SomeGuy (unregistered)


Google's latest update took a lot of things from Apple, and Apple's latest update took a lot from Google. They saw a weakness in their product and they changed it. Google did nothing really new or interesting with 2.3 or 3.1, but I think they are great updates, because they gave Android things that iOS already was capable of. Can we agree on that?

PS> How much do clothes cost in the matrix? :P

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 20:02 2

102. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


sniggly, do u know how much shit ur precious android copied from google... the whole fucking os is one huge copy... look at the app screen... cud it get any more similar? and dont say it has to be the same... wp7 obviously found a different way...

ios 5 is very nice. i think the notifications are spot on with the easy access from the loackscreen... and it seems to show a lot of detail

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 07:57 2

137. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


the app screen is the thing you use to call it a copy?
then guess what evry phone is a copy then

-maemo app drawer
-play book app drawer
-meego app drawer

its that its convenient to have app on that array.... also only Samsung phones have the app tray similar to the iPhone overall look.... winmo is not the rule... just the exception a really old exception I have to say....

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 20:54

152. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


haha ya i meant apple.. my bad... and ya, those are pretty much copies too... i mean, with the things sniggle is saying, it applies as general as that... but honestly none of them look as similar as android and ios...

posted on 08 Jun 2011, 09:15 1

156. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


so you telling me that phones like P990 and P1 copied iOS?
http://www.flyingbirdsoft.com/images/Sony-Ericsson -P990.jpg

http://bp3.blogger.com/_0BjbSqybUkE/Rucc5LAq-uI/AA AAAAAAAMM/JWGGV_DpQyQ/s1600-h/sony-ericsson-p1.jpg

also Nokia is suing apple for patterns regarding left and right swipe as a way to navigate thought screens
to tell the Truth icon arrays are pretty much a basic idea

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 09:25 2

141. spg (unregistered)


um android is google

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 14:36 5

26. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Is it shameful android uses a webkit browser and pinch to zoom? What exactly is ripped off? Their offering similar services and their own way.


Let me get this straight. You bash Apple for say not offering better notitications. Then when they do, you say it's shameful?


Other than going bankrupt is there anything Apple can do that will make you happy?

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 14:59 6

34. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Webkit is an open source standard that Apple did not invent. Pinch to zoom is a functionality that cannot be bested in terms of ease of use or practicality.

The entire functionality of the notification tray, sans a few features, was ripped off of Android.

The split keyboard was ripped off of Windows 8.

The camera lock screen access was introduced by Windows phone 7.

Proprietary instant messaging was offered by everyone else before Apple.

Cloud services were introduced by Google and Amazon before Apple.

Apple could've at least tried for something completely new and different. I nodded my head a few times at different things that made sense, like being able to go to specific notifications from the lock screen directly. But their major changes were really nothing new.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 15:04 6

36. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


actualy, there is a split keyboard for android already. a friend has it on his Xoom.. it works really well.

windows phone 7's camera access is by the camera button... at any time, even if the screen is off.. not by lock screen.

iMessage or whatever its being called is crap. With BBM the biggest draw was not because u could BB to BB and be all super cool, it was because u could do it over the internet connection and thus not have to have a messaging add on for your BB. It used to be a major selling point. This "imessage" does no more than the group text app on the Tmobile Sidekick4g.

sniggly is right on the cloud services

and taco, its not that we'd be happy that apple failed. Hell, i lvoe the competition even though i hate the company. Its that their new notification system is a DIRECT RIPOFF of Android. The same pulldown with the same set notifications, weather and time that android has had since the beginning.

Apple wants to sue everyone for even looking their way while they steal all that they possibly can from everyone else.


iOS5- For those of you that really wish you had an Android but are too tied into apple to leave.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 15:13 8

43. jbash (Posts: 339; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


"iOS5- For those of you that really wish you had an Android but are too tied into apple to leave."

lmao, apple fans will have an android that cant use flash player.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 15:26 3

47. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


There's a bunch of stuff android copied from iOS also. So why is it ok for android to copy iOS, but not the other way around. iMessage will also let you message free without using text so I don't see your point.

Android copied pinch to zoom, app store, web browser, spring board layout, design on many devices. Copy and paste function is also copied.


Apple needed better notifications and android had a good model so Apple's is similar. So what?

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 15:41 5

50. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Already explained pinch to zoom and why no other approach made sense.

App stores existed before Apple's did.

Webkit is an open source standard-NOT Apple's invention by a long shot.

Apple's design is minimalistic, meaning its basic physical design is hard not to duplicate. Only one series can be argued as a copycat, and that's some models of the Galaxy S.

I don't know what you mean by a springboard layout.

See the problem here is that you and other iFanboys have bitched about these similarities countless times, but whenever Apple does it, suddenly it's okay.

Android's notification functionality is great, and it's flattering that Apple is copying it. But it's irritating because it's still being repackaged by them as innovation when it's clearly not.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 16:53 1

66. E.N. (Posts: 2224; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Let's get real. Apple definitely copied from Android but to say that Android hasn't copied from Apple is pretty crazy.

'Pinch to zoom is a functionality that cannot be bested in terms of ease of use or practicality." Well yeah that's kinda true so that means its okay to copy? Apple didn't make pinch to zoom so easy to use and practical so that its competition can copy the feature. What's the point of innovation if it gives you no competitive advantage?

If Apple didn't put pinch zoom on the iPhone, I doubt that there would be pinch zoom and touch screen phones today. I'm sure there would have eventually been some other multi-touch gestures, but it would have probably been very different.

The split keyboard was from Windows 8 but don't Android and Palm have similar features? I don't know why it's such a big deal now that it's on the iPad.

Yes, application stores technically existed before the iPhone, but Apple pretty much redefined it and changed what a mobile application store should be like and Android tried (and is still trying) to replicate it and its success.

Webkit is open source but what Apple did to make mobile Safari was pretty different and novel, and Android, Microsoft, and Palm soon followed and created their own based on what Apple did.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 22:58 2

114. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit

WebKit was originally derived by Apple Inc. from the Konqueror browser's KHTML software library for use as the engine of Safari web browser



Owned once again sniggly. Webkit was developed by Apple. Do your research troll.

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 12:53 1

145. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


yes apple used the KHTML software library it means they took their project an created their own version called webkit

but lets read the whole article piece please? shall we?

''WebKit was originally derived by Apple Inc. from the Konqueror browser's KHTML software library for use as the engine of Safari web browser, and has now been further developed by individuals from the KDE project, Apple Inc., Nokia, Google, Bitstream, Torch Mobile, Samsung and others.[3]. Mac OS X, Windows, Linux, and some other Unix-like operating systems are supported by the project.[4]

WebKit's WebCore and JavaScriptCore components are available under the GNU Lesser General Public License, and the rest of WebKit is available under a BSD-style license.[5]''

the web kit that apple took from Konkeror's project its now being taken by other for further development from other companies, not that is being copied.... the project its open for anyone to do as they please with it

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 14:55

147. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


............

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 15:02

148. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


exactly Apple took it and developed the webkit browser for safari. Then Apple open sourced it so anyone can use it. Yes Apple the "closed" company open sourced this browser and allowed companies like google, palm and rim to use the browser.

from the same wiki page



On June 7, 2005, Safari developer Dave Hyatt announced on his weblog that Apple was open-sourcing WebKit (previously, only WebCore and JavaScriptCore were open source) and opening up access to WebKit's CVS tree and the bug Database tool.[13] This was announced at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference 2005 by Apple Senior Vice President of Software Engineering Bertrand Serlet.

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 15:55 3

149. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


the project was taken from a project that uses a GNU Lesser General Public License, you know what that means? apple simply does not have a choice but to release it to the public and let anyone do as they please because of the copyleft licence and others, when apple had created the webkit they just cant hold it for them
check the info
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Lesser_General_ Public_License

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 16:30 4

60. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)


I find it funny that you always come into Apple articles and talk shit, then when we do it on the Android articles, you and your little bitch friends get all butt-hurt, I still wonder what the real cause of your guys' hate towards Apple is, is it maybe because your mommy can't afford to buy you an iPad??? Is that why Sniggly??

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 16:35 5

62. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Yikes, Apple Fanboy, you used the exact same stupid insult another dude in this forum did. Are you that unoriginal?

I don't say anything about you and other morons popping into Android articles. I think it's fun to verbally whoop all of your asses.

I've made it quite clear why I dislike Apple, many many times. It's very simple: their business practices. I don't like the way Apple has treated consumers, I don't like the way they treat competitors, and I certainly don't like the way they treat their business partners.

Can I make it ANY clearer, Fanboy?

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 16:49 3

64. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)


And that's a great point Sniggly, so just don't buy the iPhone or any Apple products and Shut The EFF Up!!! I'm tired of you Fandroids always bitching about it, just don't buy it...simple as that!

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 17:05 4

69. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


rut roh.. apple fanboy is getting his fanny in a bunch. someone must have peed in his morning tea.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 17:09 1

72. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)


Lmao, yeah dude, look, just go buy another Android that will be outdated by the end of the month, the iPhone 4 works great for me, and even if the 5 comes out, I'll wait for the 6 but koo, you like Android, buy Android, I like Apple, I'll buy an iPhone, now eff off lol

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 17:36 2

79. GALAXY-S (unregistered)


talk about outdated... iphone has a 2 year old technology, wow finally getting up to date...

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 17:36 3

80. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


and if I refuse?

So, if android gets outdated in a month, and is almost always the first out of the gate with new hardware.. what does that make apple then?? iOS is catching up, hardware specs are never spectacular.. just what does that make them? fruit salad?

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 18:46

90. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Yup, not buying any of their products. Never have. But I'm also going to educate people.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 20:14

106. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Hahaha you're "educating" people? No idiot you're trolling. You're comments are all ridiculously biased and anyone can see that.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 20:10

105. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


explain what is wrong with their business practices... oh and if thats all u hate why do u bitch about their os and hardware and everything else... i have almost never heard u say their business practices...

hey and maybe just maybe if many people r saying it it actually means something...

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 20:16

107. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Exactly I never hear sniggly whining about business practices. He spends all his time convincing that android is superior. If it was superior it sure wouldn't need sniggly trolling on pa to prove it.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 21:10

111. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


well it just seems like he is desperate for android or something... its like its not okay for anyone to like something other than android... and i think it is very ironic how he almost always comments on every apple article...

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 23:12

154. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


That's because you don't pay attention, Lucas. Almost everywhere I have said how much I dislike the way Apple treats their customers, competitors, and business partners. From lawsuits to lying about issues their products have to leaning on anyone involved in the making of their products to ensure that they get the lion's share of all of the money to be had from their products.

I have named all of these as issues, Lucas. I have gone into great detail. But again, as usual, you don't pay attention.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 18:53

94. box (unregistered)


There were/are split keyboards before Windows8... my Viewsonic gTablet has it, and it makes typing so much easier... especially since my 10.1" tab dwarfs the iRag, can't imagine trying to type on that thin little POS

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 20:06 1

103. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


how was the split keyboard ripped off.. it came out like a day before... its not like apple wud have been able to create it in a day... oh and microsoft hasnt even been able to release it... they have basically just said the idea... whoever is able to execute first gets the credit... i can announce a shitload of stuff and its not like i get the copyright...

and what is wrong with using ideas from other oses... is it worng or something? other oses use enough from apple...

and google and amazon cloud services fail compared to icloud...

and honestly, what do they need more? they announced all this new stuff... but idk what really else there is?

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 09:23 1

140. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lucas, android has had a split keyboard for a while. My friend has a Xoom and has a split keyboard. Its on the market.

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 20:59

153. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


ya... all i am saying is they didnt rip off microsoft.. and for below

first, apple didnt say u cudnt sue them... if they are taking the risk of copying, which i dont think they are cause idk if google has a copyright... they are making themselves susceptible

and icloud is very important for a few reasons-- all apps are synced, all photos are synced, all music is synced with no lag, and all documents are synced... alll this is done automatically... oogle doesnt offer this...

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 09:41 1

142. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)


How do you know that icloud is so great? Have you used it? As tons of people have already stated, the issue is not that Apple is directly ripping off Android so much as it is that Apple sues everyone under the sun for "ripping" off them and then they go and do it. It's pure hypocracy.

posted on 07 Jun 2011, 17:00 1

150. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


my cloud services do as much as what apple just offers and they are all if not most from Google (except for music) I just need to sing into my account to get my apps, contacts mail and even pictures if i wanted to all done with a breeze so I don't see why they are a fail compared to iCloud

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 17:56

86. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Oh like other OSes don't rip off Apple. Fandroid.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 13:45

2. nimo (Posts: 72; Member since: 11 Jun 2010)


The world as we know it has changed forever.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 19:13 1

98. Pirate Ninja (unregistered)


Your message is broken. let me fix it

/sarcasm

The world as we know it has changed forever.

/sarcasm

Ok all fixed

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 13:52 3

4. cracy1 (Posts: 1; Member since: 09 Mar 2011)


no major improvements as Sniggly said..
Android for the win!!

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 13:55 2

5. dara (unregistered)


and they call this a major release? you totally dropped the ball this time Apple, now just wait..Ice Cream will blow you to pieces. lol

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 14:16 4

17. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Yes, just like the xoom's honeycomb blew the ipad2 to pieces, right? Lol.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 14:17 4

18. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


In terms of innovation and functionality, it did. Sales were botched, but still beat expectations.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 14:38 2

28. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Hahah in terms of innovation? You mean how they copied Apple's tablet? If it's so great and innovative why is no one buying it??? Honeycomb is very much beta right now and very buggy and that's why no one is buying android tablets.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 15:01 2

35. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Just like with the iPhone, the iPad's design is so minimalistic that you can't really differentiate from it too much physically.

Honeycomb is still a great working product, and the software is VERY innovative. People are buying Honeycomb tablets, Taco. Don't confuse hyperbole with facts.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 20:17

108. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


What was innovative on honeycomb?

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 15:09 1

40. jbash (Posts: 339; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


moto screwed up big time with their price point. look at asus, a computer parts company, they cant keep up with the demand for their similarly equipped and hundreds cheaper device

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 15:11 2

42. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Moto's price points weren't outrageous for what the XOOM offered. It's just that there wasn't a lower end/lower memory option available for the XOOM.

Why do people persist with this "the XOOM was too expensive!" bullshit?

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 15:15

44. jbash (Posts: 339; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


how did ASUS pull it off 3 months later?

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 15:22 2

45. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Because ASUS is in the computer parts biz, which probably works better than when all of your hardware in the past was for phones. Motorola had to do some serious R and D, and set out to build a tablet of complete awesomeness.

The EEE Pad probably has cheaper parts, was built cheaper, and didn't require quite so much R and D.

Granted, we may see a price drop on the XOOM, or a cheaper XOOM 2. But the fact remains that the XOOM only seemed expensive because it was being directly compared to the cheapest iPad and iPad 2.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 17:08 2

71. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


sniggly, they are made with nearly identical parts

to put it in motos own words " we can charge this much because it's LTE capable". They priced themselves out of the game. on that one. It was just a bad move.

BTW, how did Android copy iOS tablets? An iOS tablet is just a frikking super sized ipod. Thats all it is. Android Honeycomb tablets are far and away superior in every aspect.

Sales dont equate superiority to features. That is a long stretch and a farce.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 14:50 3

33. ayephoner (Posts: 836; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


the big difference there, iOS 5 will be on ALL iphones released in the past 3 years come september. no question.

ice cream sandwich wont be on ANY adroid devices until '12 and wont make it to most of them until iOS 6 is ready to launch.

iOS 5 is really competing with gingerbread.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 17:37

81. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


well sure, when ur only talking about 2 or 3 similarly spec'd phones, thats easy isnt it? Of course, ur trading in that "upgrade" for old equipment and features that were part of OS's in 2007, so hey, good luck to ya!

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 13:59 4

6. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Very true Apple has very obviously borrowed from other os's. They say without competition there is no innovation. But what good is innovation if other people don't take advantage of it.

posted on 06 Jun 2011, 14:33

25. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


lost my bet... its going to be IOS5 is going to have new notification even tho it wont be ready till fall

someone said that instead of getting on litigations companies should just try to innovate a bit more

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