Alleged iPhone 5 SIM card tray seemingly confirms use of nano SIM

2. JC557 posted on 06 Aug 2012, 10:02 5 2

You'd be surprised how much space a full size SIM slot and SD card slot takes up in an electronic item. The slot may look small and slim but the main connectors/ housing inside the phone are quite large. The microSD and microSIM take up less space allowing for more efficient use of phone real estate

*I've cracked open my Droid Charge (full sim) and Cowon D2 mp3 player.

4. Tux4g63 posted on 06 Aug 2012, 10:41 2 1

I agree a full size SIM slot takes up a lot of space, but I am comparing Apples current Micro-SIM to the proposed Nano-SIM standard that they are going to use. The size difference between those two is literally millimeters.

9. JC557 posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:07 1 1

Not defending Apple at all here but a mm or 2 makes a difference as the slot is larger inside than what we see on the outside. Of course I still prefer Nokia's implementation.

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10. JessJess (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:09 4 6

"I just have a feeling they are doing it to explicitly make it more difficult for users to swap a single sim between devices."

To what end and for what purpose? Making the SIM smaller is good! Smaller the better really. Why should we care? If I want a new SIM I just call my provider and they send me one (and deactivate my old one). I don't think it's common for a person to hot swap sims between devices constantly....

23. RapidCat posted on 06 Aug 2012, 12:19 1 0

that's what i'm thinking

18. darkkjedii posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:42 0 3

I think so too

30. andro. posted on 06 Aug 2012, 13:03 1 1

Agreed micro sim is almost becoming the norm now and apple don't want ifans under their control to have the ability to put their sims in any other phone than the iPhone. The hassle the initial use of micro sim by apple in the iPhone 4 caused was very high,especially when so many handsets had to be sent for DOA testing and repairs for dropping calls. The amount of sim changes down over these doas etc witnessed in store was unprecedented

Apple simply want a sim card for iPhone only and no other phone,its like it or lump it for ifans,if your iPhone doesn't work apple simply want you to get another iphone for u to make calls. God forbid apple customers might get the experience of using their sim in an s3 or similar,apple fear that. Blatant refusal to use the EU legal requirement of a micro USB charger is along similar lines to this from apple

5. taco50 (banned) posted on 06 Aug 2012, 10:52 12 6

The nanosim Apple designed has been accepted as the industry standard. Apple agreed to not charge royalties on it so everyone could use their design. There's also a good reason for it explained JC557.

So here Apple does everything you supposedly want them to do, but you still hate them.

6. frydaexiii posted on 06 Aug 2012, 10:57 4 8

Seriously, What can 1cm do for the new iPhone? Add an extra GB of RAM? What's the point? What I'm mad about is not that Apple is charging royalties or some crap like that, what I'm pissed about is that they just change the standard as and when they like like they own the friggin smartphone market. A standard should be something everyone or at least majority has adapted to, MicroSIM is, NanoSIM is not and now we're back to 2010 when the iPhone 4 was the only phone with MicroSIM.

7. JessJess (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:03 11 3

Cannot tell if serious or just troll.

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8. taco50 (banned) posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:07 14 6

The whole smartphone market was switching to nano sims. This isn't Apple's idea. There was a big debate about who's design would be used and Apple ended up winning.

See how you're mad at Apple for no reason. You just automatically hate anything that has their name involved.

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11. Jasonhunterx posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:29 9 1

For once you make sence

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29. TROLL posted on 06 Aug 2012, 12:47 6 1

Totally agree. What's wrong with Taco today....
He's got 9 thumbs up, wow....

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31. andro. posted on 06 Aug 2012, 13:06 2 4

He has many log in alias

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24. frydaexiii posted on 06 Aug 2012, 12:20 2 4

Hurray, now you know how you sound like in every other article here.

Yeah, you can pretty much say I hate anything Apple does because

1) It doesn't benefit me as a consumer in anyway since I will never use an Apple product (My overpriced Nano will be my first and last Apple product) and

2) Not only does it not benefit me, I'll be missing out because Apple keeps everything within their closed walls. "Oh, you wanna buy that cool speaker dock? Too bad, you'll have to buy an iPhone just so you can use it."

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28. taco50 (banned) posted on 06 Aug 2012, 12:44 6 3

Not wanting to use Apple products and hating is two different things. Hating a tech company shows you have some major issues.

It's ok your ignorance has been shown on this thread.

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32. frydaexiii posted on 06 Aug 2012, 13:11 1 6

Oh yes, the one time I didn't know something and you did totally outweighs all the times you were dumb and stupid, good job...Oh btw, just to complete your whole "I'm so smart & right" front, how about showing a source?

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40. joey_sfb posted on 06 Aug 2012, 19:28 0 2

taco, you are either clueless or a big time apple fanboy. I suspect both!

Apple is in cohort with the carriers, now they can charge you again for registration and the nano sim card when you upgrade to iPhone 5.

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45. SonyFTW2020 posted on 07 Aug 2012, 01:05 0 1

You are a puppet in a master's show....in need of awaking....You represent what apple is doing to this entire world.........Unity is bad if you're on the wrong side my friend....... wake up man... wake up

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22. protozeloz posted on 06 Aug 2012, 12:08 1 1

its not just 1cm this cm translates into less space inside your phone. and with that other optimizations come around

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20. Aeires (unregistered) posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:52 2 0

Agreed, why someone complains when internal components are made smaller is anyone's guess.

41. hawke9150 posted on 06 Aug 2012, 21:03 0 1

Yeah right, Once Apple sees that they can charge another manufacture, they will sue them for copying and demand payments and or they will ban those devices from being sold.

12. Jasonhunterx posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:30 7 4

Frydaexii you give android fans a bad name your very miseducated

21. frydaexiii posted on 06 Aug 2012, 12:06 1 8

Really? I hardly see you around here...I'll only take that statement from reputable members here.

13. -box- posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:30 7 1

I agree with taco here. Everyone is going to NanoSIM (which is a bit quick, as only LTE phones and iPhones use the micro to my knowledge), and apple's design won out (I like Nokia's better).
That said, your statement about accessories is spot on. There was an almost universal agreement between OEMs to use MicroUSB as as the charging and data standard for phones for the time being, but apple stubbornly continues to use and implement its own proprietary designs. It's selfish and creates a negative experience for.the customer

15. taco50 (banned) posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:36 7 2

Can you explain why you like Nokia's design better?

33. -box- posted on 06 Aug 2012, 13:14 2 1

As I recall, I preferred their notch layout which eased installation and removal, and that it could have been implemented without a tray, saving room and a minuscule amount of weight depending on implementation. I don't have access to the designs right now, but I'll find them after work and try to update my stated rationale

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36. JC557 posted on 06 Aug 2012, 15:07 0 1

Agreed. I was hoping for Nokia to win the bid as the design made more sense.

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16. taco50 (banned) posted on 06 Aug 2012, 11:36 4 7

Anything related to the iPhone is news

26. quickweevil posted on 06 Aug 2012, 12:30 5 0

How exactly is this a piece of s**t? It's just a small SIM card...

25. frydaexiii posted on 06 Aug 2012, 12:23 1 7

Yeah, If I paid $500 for a mid-range phone I'm pretty sure my mind would tell me it's the best phone money can buy too. Just because something has a high price tag, doesn't mean it's good, you probably just got conned professionally, like those Beats Headphones.

27. EclipseGSX posted on 06 Aug 2012, 12:39 1 2

Actually it does, it's like a car. If it doesn't do what I want and breaks down it's a POS

34. -box- posted on 06 Aug 2012, 13:19 1 2

Apple doesn't make anything except software. Hardware production is outsourced to the lowest bidder. The cheapness is evident in their products with an objective blind test. They may be nicer or better subjectively relative to some competitors, but it still is lacking

39. quickweevil posted on 06 Aug 2012, 18:44 0 0

If you could link to a study that proves Apple's product quality is inferior then I'll give in but to just say that Apple makes products of inferior quality just because you don't like them makes you look stupid. Any average consumer will tell you that Apple products (iMacs, MacBook Pros, MacBook Airs, iPads, iPhones, etc.) have a very high quality feel.

43. frydaexiii posted on 06 Aug 2012, 23:41 0 0

They made a phone out of glass, sure that's not inferior, it's just downright stupid. Yes, they have a high quality feel, so? That little 2 feet drop begs to differ.

I love how porcelain feels, it's a great material for a cup, but you don't see me using porcelain to build a house or a car right? Different materials for different purposes, making a phone that is sandwiched by 2 pieces of glass is not a right way to use glass.

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46. quickweevil posted on 08 Aug 2012, 12:50 0 0

Do you see people building houses or cars out of porcelain? That's a stupid argument. I've dropped my iPhone many times. No cracks. I dropped my Galaxy Nexus and shattered the screen which is why I'm back to my iPhone. So, what's your point?

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37. EclipseGSX posted on 06 Aug 2012, 16:00 1 0

How exactly does no youtube, a free service mind you, mean good? Because you aren't supporting Google by viewing their ads? OooooOOOoooooo *Wriggles arms*

38. protozeloz posted on 06 Aug 2012, 16:27 0 0

why? Google is not the one thats gonna take complaints from customers who had it on iOS plus they can just upload a new version to the app store...