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Adobe caves and adds HTML5 support to its Flash Media Server
Supporting an idea that Steve Jobs wrote about a couple of years ago, Adobe has decided to add HTML5 support to its Flash-branded Media Server. The advantage for media publishers is that they now have a single process for serving Flash-branded devices as well as those from Apple that don't support Adobe's software.

Earlier, Adobe shook things up by putting out a press release that said that it was offering a "new version of Adobe Flash Media Server that can now deliver Flash technology to Apple iPhone and iPad devices," when in reality, it is simply allowing its server to handle standards-based HTML5 video as well as Flash video.

A couple of years ago, during a period when Steve Jobs had been criticizing Flash for crashing Apple products, he said the software was buggy and had issues with security, reliability and performance. At the end of a message he wrote in April 2010 called "Thoughts on Flash", Jobs suggested that "perhaps Adobe should focus more on creating great HTML5 tools for the future, and less on criticizing Apple for leaving the past behind," which is exactly what Adobe is doing with today's announcement.

Adobe's new server will help those developers who use Flash grab a new audience of iOS users and also eliminates the need for a Flash plug-in on any platform. Websites built with Flash still will not be accessible to iOS users.

source: Adobe via AppleInsider

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posted on 09 Sep 2011, 18:20 11

1. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)


and Apple keeps piling victories...

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 18:59 14

4. dmakun (Posts: 315; Member since: 06 Jun 2011)


you must have missed the last sentence. pls finish reading the article next time

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 19:37 4

9. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@dmakun. And you must be missing the point.

Again, see how android fanboys divert the argument straying away from Apple's stand on not supporting adobe flash and moving forward in adopting html5?

Android fanboys will never admit defeat even when proven wrong already.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 20:38 13

16. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


its not an "apple" victory.

only idiot fanboys think thats the case

the world is slowly moving to HTML5. If Apple used flash, they would still be integrating HTML5 because eventually its going to be the standard. That has been in the works for much longer than the apple-adobe fight. Last I checked, there was no iphone in 2004, there was no apple-adobe fight, there was none of this nonsense. It has nothing to do with steve jobs at all. Get over yourselves.

Its hard to be proven wrong when were constantly right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 00:25 2

29. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@remix. But who pushed for html5 aggressively? Isn't it Apple? And who tried so hard to resist it and keep flash alive to slow down html5? Isn't it adobe and android fanboys? How could you forget so easily? If not for Apple, html5 won't move forward this soon, and you'd be stuck with the unstable and power hungry flash.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 03:56 4

37. ilia1986 (unregistered)


And who has had access to flash videos and content up until now - exclusively? Android you ignorant troll. It's not any sort of victory for Apple. It's a continuation of a victory for Android - because Android got to enjoy flash content ever since Froyo, while iOS as of now - is still stuck without flash.

All we know is that Adobe has decided to move on HTML 5. NOT BECAUSE APPLE TOLD THEM TO, you ignorant idiot, but because it's a business decision. Plain and simple.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 05:57 7

41. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yea, cuz we all know without the allmighty steve jobs bitching at adobe, they would have just stayed with flash and let HTML5 pass them by. They are obviously too stupid to keep up with internet trends, especially ones they help start.


HTML5 isnt projected to be the "standard" until around 2020. you still have quite a few years before your iphone will be able to see the entire internet.. lol

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 07:50 6

50. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


And this is why ppl get irked with iFans they think Apple is the reason for everything...

Apple wasnt the only ones to push html5 aggressively. They way you make it, no on else was trying to push for it.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/03/google-apps-is-moving-on-youll-need-an-html5-browser-to-go-wit/

Yea thats Google...ya know the guys behind Android.... If that not aggressively push for it, I dont know what is.

I know MS is pushing for it heavy too.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 21:44

75. Phullofphil (Posts: 801; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)


android fanboy has nothing to do with it. I have an iphone and a ipad 2. I love them I also have a droid x and love it. It just is frustrating when i try to go to a website and i cant see it. I can care less about adobe or whoever. I just want a full internet expierence and i want it to work good.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 20:14 5

14. pongkie (Posts: 533; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


yup and its first victory is when you overpaid for their products

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 21:01 2

21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Very true between the ban and this it's been a great day for Apple. And this is without an iPhone 5 out. Once it launches I expect some fandroid suicides.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 21:29 4

22. pongkie (Posts: 533; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


even with apple flash ban fandroids wont commit suicide because they don't have an apple product in the first place they have android. And its a win for them because fandroids will enjoy flash and html 5 at the same time

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 22:00

25. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I was talking about the samsung ban.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 22:19

26. pongkie (Posts: 533; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


why in this article? its confusing people

posted on 11 Sep 2011, 21:35

81. CactusCat (unregistered)


You seem to be missing some information:
http://www.osnews.com/story/25152/German_Retailers_Can_Continue_To_Sell_Restock_Galaxy_Tab_10_1

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 21:35

23. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Exactly. Flash is a pointless concept anyway. It's just another excuse for Andrones to sit on their phones and look at video porn.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 23:14

77. WM6.5Sucks (Posts: 42; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


The same way you do on your computer.... its usually Flash.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 07:27 5

47. dmakun (Posts: 315; Member since: 06 Jun 2011)


This would have been a victory for apple & isheeps if it read "IOS now capable of playing html5 + flash" but on the contrary it is a victory for Android which is now capable of both.
Why do I-diots always feel happy to give Jobs their hard earned cash for a device that offers so little?

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 13:58 2

65. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


How is it a vicroty for apple? are you stupid? this doesnt help apple at all. it just adds more capabilities to flash. does not mean that HTML5 now has flash. at all.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 18:44 2

2. bucky (Posts: 2471; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


definitely agree

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 18:54 6

3. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Now let's watch the android fanboys make something up that it was google's idea from the get go.

I recall clearly that android fanboys saying over and over again that Steve was just bitter with Adobe and that's the reason why he is not supporting flash on iDevices and that it has nothing to do with moving forward with html5. Now let's watch android fanboys pretend that they never said anything like that, lol.

Also, I recall clearly all the thumb downs I got from android fanboys when I posted a comment that Flash is a dying platform, and that by 2012, it will be near obscurity. Hahahahahaha.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 19:12 2

5. oldfash33 (Posts: 7; Member since: 15 Jun 2010)


Nice call 530gemini. That ones gonna hurt boys!! But lets be honest,jobs was right in his assessment

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 19:29 3

7. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@oldfash. It's because android fanboys are blind fanatics. No matter if Apple made a good point, or when Apple is OBVIOUSLY right, android fanboys will contradict Apple no matter what. Let me give you some more examples.

Before Samsung, Nokia, Htc, Sony, etc jumped into touchscreens. What did anti Apple folks say about touchscreen? It's a passing trend. It's all hype. Nothing beats actual buttons. But what happened when everyone went into touchscreen? They forgot that they used to mock Apple for it.

Before everyone adopted capacitive screen and they were using resistive touchscreens with styluses. What were anti Apple users say about capacitive touch? It's poor technology. Can't use it with gloves. Screen gets dirty. It's not precise, etc. But what happened when the others adopted android and switched to capacitive? They all forgot all the bad things they said about the iphone's capacitive screen.

And now, same thing with flash. Yet, those Apple haters never learn. Why? Because they're closeminded, blind fanatics.

Oh, I forgot to mention that they also made fun of the iphone's size saying that it's too big. But what do they say now that a lot of phones are in the 4" size? They again forgot how they made fun of the iphone saying that it's too big, lol. And they say that we're wrong in calling them unreasonable and bitter? Huh.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 19:39 6

10. exo2u (unregistered)


Along with a million other people who knew that adobe would eventually add support for html5, what a joke...
Seriously people, talk about leaving the past behind, apples having a good run but ill bet you'll continue to see apple losing shares to android and windows. consumers are slowly learning from there mistakes.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 19:46 2

11. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


See. Another perfect example of an android fanboy mentality. Lol. Now they're saying that they knew and supported this all along just like Steve did. Forgetting how they embraced flash support on their android devices saying that flash is here to stay forever and how they mocked Steve and idevice users, hahahahaha.

What's wrong with saying, "Ok Steve, you were right, now let's move on.". Lol. What a bunch of losers :)

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 20:05 5

13. exo2u (unregistered)


who said supported? obviously your the fanboy... seriously stop being so biased. both Os's would suck without the other one stop flaming for no reason, and just grow up.
So defensive and i wonder why, just like a little kid.
Nighty night.

I have two mac books and a iphone. wouldn't say im a fan of one or the other, im a fan of technology. I think everyone knows your a biased kid with rich parents most likely so keep on spouting flaming pointless bs, i got to run have fun

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 00:52

33. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@exo. I am not biased. Just stating some facts on android fanboys' blind fanaticism. You won't see me trolling around android articles pulling it down or attacking android users like android fanboys do to Apple and Apple users in Apple related articles.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 12:35 4

60. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you are one of the most biased people on this site. you have your apple colored glasses on at all times and say some of the most dishonest and lunatic style comments.

Your not as bad as taco, miz, and gallito, but your not that much better than them either.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 21:36 4

24. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Good god look at this, Android fans trolling an Apple article. And the hypocrisy continues. Stay tuned next week folks as then they will move on to the level of Contradictions.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 22:53 3

28. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


I love it.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 04:40 4

38. Whateverman (Posts: 3251; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I thought this article was about Adobe? Yep, it's about Adobe according to the title.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 06:02 5

44. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no no no whateverman,
its never about anything but apple.. dont you get it! steve jobs controls the world!

these morons really think apple had some major role in this. durka durka.. wow.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 10:28

52. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Well if you read past the title the article talks about Steve Jobs and Apple. It's also titled "Adobe Caves" so it insinuates a loss.


To understand you'd have to take off your fanboy goggles for a while.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 10:56 2

54. Whateverman (Posts: 3251; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Adobe caves and writes software that hundreds of MILLIONS of additional users will be using. Let's see, more people using their products...nope, still sounds like Adobe is the clear winner here.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 11:30

56. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Why is it titled "caves" then?

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 12:37 5

61. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


because some guy on a tech site wrote "caves" to make it sound more interesting than it is to his user base of phone fanatics, you idiot.

if it simply said "adobe starts development on html5 standards" and that was the whole article, you wouldnt have gotten half as excited. Its about getting people to post on the threads and act like idiots.
congrats taco, you did exactly as you were supposed to.

posted on 11 Sep 2011, 05:04

79. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Was this an Apple Article? wait let me check again. . . Darn it ain't about apple at all but its about ADOBE for ***** sake. . .

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 22:52 3

27. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


They should have listened to Jobs a long time ago.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 01:34 4

36. Blueberry (Posts: 7; Member since: 14 Aug 2011)


@IKingTrust: stop trolling and shut the f**k up!

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 04:48 5

39. Whateverman (Posts: 3251; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I think Steve was right not to allow flash on iOS. Think about it, iOS is buggy enough already, there was no need to further complicate a this really slow, lackluster OS. Waiting for HTML5 development buys Apple some time to catch up with Android, yet gives the illusion that Apple is protecting it's customers from the horrors of free content. Brilliant move on Apples part, and as you can see, it worked like a charm

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 10:26

51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


If someone says they like android for different form factors or widgets or more free content then that's reasonable. When you call iOS buggy and the reality is that it's the most stable OS on the market it makes you a troll and fandroid.

Out of all the OS's android is the least stable but in your mind androids weaknesses are also strengths.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 11:12 4

55. Whateverman (Posts: 3251; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I'm speaking from personal experience. Now you are free to disagree, but it doesn't make me a troll. At least twice a day I get force closed out of something on my iPad. It get stuck in one orientation or hesitates to change, I start typing and it takes the iPad a few seconds to catch up with me, and I'm not the fastest typer. All this without flash, yet my Android phone works like a dream. It has it's moments too, but far less than my magical iOS device. That's why I say it's buggy!

In your mind iOS is perfect and any who doesn't share your opinion is a troll or a fandroid. But most people can look past the smooth and shiny and see iOS for what it is. It's a less customizable version of Launcher Pro. Or to paraphrase what Michael H said in an earlier article, iOS is an app launcher, not a complete OS.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 11:36

57. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I don't think iOS is perfect but you call it buggy when every reputable source praises it for how smooth and reliable the OS is. Buggy and iOS don't go together except in haters minds.

Android is also known for laggy performance with force closes yet in your mind iOS is buggy and android works like a dream. How come your experience is he exact opposite of every review ever done?

Most people love iOS and the iPhone has the top customer satisfaction ratings as usual. App launcher? Well isn't every OS that? On my pc if I do email and open outlook isn't that launching an app. Not to mention android took the whole app launcher concept from Apple and ran with it.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 12:40 3

62. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


taco, nothing is 100%. even if its 98% reliable.. which its not, that means there is stil 2% of tens of MILLIONS of people that are plagued with bugs.

My galaxyS works flawlessly and ive seen some that have weird issues, even when running on the exact same hardware. Things roll off an assembly line at 500 miles an hour. One little crack in the soddering or something being just ever so slightly out of place on the circuit board can make the phone less reliable than others. This happens with any electronics, even with your precious iDevices. They are not immune.
If they were, there would be no need for those "Geniuses" at the Apple store.. dumbass.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 13:16

64. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


On average iOS is way more stable than android. That's an advantage of the closed approach Apple takes.

You say you prefer to customize which is fine, but you can't admit there's a concession to be made for that. The galaxy s phone is loaded with issues. The latest jd powers survey just came out for smartphones and samsung got some pretty crappy customer satisfaction ratings. Of course your phone is "flawless"

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 14:06 2

67. Whateverman (Posts: 3251; Member since: 17 May 2009)


HTC customer satisfaction was right up there with iOS. That tells me it's the hardware and UI are more of a factor then the OS.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 15:13 2

69. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the customer satisfaction drop on samsung is because of the update fiasco... im pretty sure most of us are irritated at samsung for that.

Yea, over all iOS IS more stable than android because of that closed system. More stable however doesnt mean completely stable.

What issues is the galaxyS loaded with? tell me them, oh wise one.
And yea, my phone works damn well. U think I would have a phone that didnt?? lol Are you sad that my samsung SGS is completely reliable and i probably have less "force closes" on mine that u do on iOS? lol. The SGS has been the best phone ive ever laid hands on.. and being in the industry as long as I have, ive put my hands on most, including ur precious jesusphone.

Taco, like always u talk without knowing anything abuot what u talk about. when will you ever learn.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 14:01 3

66. Whateverman (Posts: 3251; Member since: 17 May 2009)


How many people do you know go out and spend $600 on something they hate? If I were a hater, I wouldn't have bought one for myself. I am a realist and a techie. I love all things tech, but I can see the pros and cons of them all. I've been just as critical about Android as I have been about iOS, but the difference is, if I disagree with Sniggly or remixfa about an Android spec, feature, or UI, these guys don't resort to name calling or childish tit for tat. They reply with very well thought out, fact or opinion based responses, while at the same time respecting my opinion. But you often try to degrade and disrespect people. For example; saying Android users are poor and just can't afford iPhones. Ridiculous! I have them both and love them both, but the only advantage my iPad has is screen size.

My phone feels more like a true operating system, where as my iPad feels like a place to access my apps. I can customize my phone in ways that I can't with my iPad, and that word (customize) seems to send some iOS fans angry fits about why it's not useful. But now that Apple is adding "widgets" and a notification shade to iOS5, some of you guys have totally flipped the script and now it's such a great idea. It's still nowhere near the customization we Android fans enjoy, but I digress.

Which brings me to your app launcher comment. Dude, do you realize that apps have been around a lot longer than the iPhone or iOS? You have got to stop viewing everything through Apple colored glasses, because you speaking on technology with what seems to be very limited experiencea makes you sound like a fanboy! Yes, Apple made the term popular but they didn't invent the app launcher. What do you think people used to pull up applications on their Blackberries, Treos, Symbian and Windows Mobile devices? All of these devices had apps and a place to launch them from. Even my old LG 8350 had a place where you could buy and download apps from VZW. That sounds a lot like an app store to me!

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 16:26

70. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Sure they may be reasonable when discussing strictly android, but not when it comes to Apple and neither are you though you try to pretend you are. Just this week you said android is more stable than iOS, that iOS is not a real OS but an app launcher, the galaxy tab doesn't look like the iPad and the judge was either paid off by Apple or an isheep.

Remix and sniggly specifically are very degrading to Apple users and are the aggressors as they constantly follow Apple articles and comment to stir up.

And I just said every OS is an app launcher so while trying to contradict me you're actually agreeing with me. Somehow launching apps is twisted into a negative by fandroids even though android is also an app launcher. What is it on android that makes it a more in depth OS? Please spare me widgets and live wall paper too. I want to know what functions you can perform that I can't on iOS.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 17:29 1

72. Whateverman (Posts: 3251; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Yes, I said them and I meant them. Why is it so hard to believe that there are people in the judicial system who can be swayed by money or personal preference? You hear about it all the time, so why wouldn't it be possible in this case as well.

Second, I don't have to pretend to be anything. I express my opinion on any topic I please, but you always take anything mentioned about Apple so personal that you attack for no reason. And if you address me in a disrespectful manner, I will always unleash hell on you, all without getting mad. I think everyone here knows that about me, but you are one of the few who invites that from everyone! Sniggly, remix and others here debate just fine about all different subjects covered on this site. But it's only when you and a couple others start commenting is when things get really heated.

And third, no not every OS is an app launcher. I said they all HAVE app launchers. What I mean by that is every OS has certain button, icon or what ever that bring up apps. iOS is nothing but apps minus the UI that every other OS has. As soon as you open the screen on iOS, you get a grid of all your apps. As for what Android can do that iOS can't, I have given you that list a hundred times so I'll keep this list short and sweet.

Custom notifications
Transition effects
Side loading apps
Share music phone to phone
DLNA with any compatible system
OTA updates (it's coming, but I had this day one)
Play free flash games online
Allow me to make my own apps without going through Apple
4G
Use Dual cores
Free turn by turn navigation

The list goes on and on, but you get what i'm saying. If iOS could add just half of Androids features, I would get an iPhone. But even with everything that Android offers that iOS doesn't, you can't get past the "smooth" experience of iOS. Don't be mad at us for your lack of vision.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 21:32

74. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You listed a bunch of nonsense.

Transition effects - iOS has it and it adds no functionality

Side loading apps - jailbreak and you have it but this is part of Apple's security and a trade off

Dlna- AirPlay on apple
Ota updates - iOS 5 and it adds no functionality added just a different way to do the same thing
4g - has nothing to do with OS
Dual cores - nothing to do with OS
Navigation - is an app not the OS

You've mnaged to prove that there's no reason to call iOS an app launcher and not call android the same. There's not some "depth" on android that makes it different. Sure there's options on android that iOS doesn't have like side loading apps and flash. iOS also has things that android doesn't so it comes down to the users preference.

Fandroids though put down iOS like it's not fully functional and also say Apple users are less intelligent so they make it personal.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 22:45

76. Whateverman (Posts: 3251; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I listed a bunch of things that are important to me, but I don't expect you to understand these things because you have limited experience with these kinds of things. All these things may not be built into the OS but the freedom of having Android makes all of these things possible. But lets have a look at all the Apple alternatives and excuses you've listed.

AirPlay - Only comparable with Apple products. I stream music and view pictures from my phone to my PS3.

OTA - Had it since day one and it's a joy not having to connect my phone to the computer for every little thing.

4G - Still only on Android, and don't even start about HSPA+. I'm about LTE or WiMax.

Dual cores - Yes, it's only hardware. But is it hardware that ip5 will have???

Navigation - added to every Android device by Google for FREE. Open the box, activate the phone, and even without a gmail account, any Android owner has it for free. iOS can't beat that!

Not to mention the other things I listed that you didn't address. But I understand, there are no excuses to not allow the rest of it. But there is a reason for it, GREED! Apple keeps everything locked up nice and tight to force users to come back to Apple for every little thing. While I can drag and drop music and videos from any computer, you have to sign in, get permission and sync everything from your iTunes account on your computer only.

Don't confuse what some people may thing about you, for what they think about all iOS users. All kinds of people love the iPhone and you need to realize all kinds of people feel the same about Android.

Your denial is funny to me. No matter how much proof anyone gives you will never understand so I don't know why we even bother. But it's fun proving you wrong sometimes. So keep em coming

posted on 11 Sep 2011, 15:55 2

80. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


No taco,
Neither I or Sniggly are degrading to anyone. Anyone that isnt first offencive, rude, or doing their best to troll and make people mad. Dont sit here and play the puppy dog eyed routine. We have all tried multiple times to have "adult" conversations with you, we even had a whole "reset" where we were gonna forget every conversation and start over but you couldnt keep from acting like a retarded troll.
There are plenty of people on this site that like or have apple products that we have regular conversations with all the time. There is a select few... aka Taco, Miz, Gallito, and to a lesser extent Gemini who 99% of their posts are pure flame bait crap. If you want to act like you have a brain in your posts then people will treat you like you have a brain. If you want to keep acting like an idiot, then you will be treated as such.

Dude, take a look at yourself before you cry about how your treated. Your treatment is a direct reflection of how you treat others. Look at how often your posts are thumbed down while mine are thumbed up more often than not. Its not because everyone here is some android super fan and the world is against you, its because of the way you act and the troll-ish and innaccurate things you say. You give a complete pass to anything Apple does good or bad and repeat the same innacurate and tired anti-android lines over and over again. Maybe if u actually took the time to learn first hand the competition for your precious iphone you would be more informed.

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 05:24 2

40. Minsk (unregistered)


You guys are seriously taking this whole fight to a whole different level. For god's sake its just about Adobe and not some Android vs IOS article. And besides, it aint us getting wealthier its them!

posted on 10 Sep 2011, 16:33 2

71. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


To all the iFanatics....

Its called progress. Apple didnt magically cause this to happen by not using it. It is a collective effort that also includes Microsoft, Google, and others.

At the same time...some companies recognized that Flash had its advantages right now and CHOSE to use it. Its that CHOICE that is great for some of us. Even with an Android phone....you can use Flash or not...its your CHOICE. Its your CHOICE in the browser to use it or not.

Dear iFan gemini...how in the world can a user help get HTML5 adopted quicker? Its not up to the user...its up the the companies to stop using it. Didnt I explain to you before its like the 32bit vs 64 bit scenario on desktop OS's?? Want 64bit to be the standard? Stop making, pushing 32bit software, OS's. Whats happening with the desktop world? As of the last couple of years 64bit OS's is being installed by default on PC's. Browse Best Buy, Walmart for a lil example.

If folks want HTML5 to get adopted quicker...companies have to phase out Flash. Its not up to the user.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:55

82. onepass (unregistered)


The combination of these two things namely the introduction of new attributes and the replacement of old elements give Html5 the ability to pass all tests and the certainty that it will be widely used. The new version is compatible to all older versions and can be installed to all browsers that use this type of documents. So if you think that it will help you work better, you should know that it doesn't require any specific installation or download that might not be compatible to your computer. It is easy to learn Html5
and it will certainly make your life easy, too.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:57

83. onepass (unregistered)


The combination of these two things namely the introduction of new attributes and the replacement of old elements give Html5 the ability to pass all tests and the certainty that it will be widely used. The new version is compatible to all older versions and can be installed to all browsers that use this type of documents. So if you think that it will help you work better, you should know that it doesn't require any specific installation or download that might not be compatible to your computer. It is easy to learn Html5
and it will certainly make your life easy, too.

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