Steve Jobs goes on the attack, watch out Google and Adobe

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Steve Jobs goes on the attack, watch out Google and Adobe
Just days after launching what he considers to be the most important device of his career, Apple CEO Steve Jobs faced a throng of Apple employees for a sort of Town Hall Q&A session. Any doubt whether Jobs is physically able to maintain the tough pace of being Apple's top man on the totem pole has now officially been erased after a number of comments made by the exec, pointed directly at Adobe and Google.

Jobs went after Google's motto of "Don't Be Evil" with some witnesses saying that Jobs outright called the motto "a load of crap," after the Mountain View company launched the Nexus One. Jobs pointed out that Apple didn't go into the search business, so why should Google go after the iPhone? Jobs pointed out that Google wants to kill the iPhone. (Which is probably why it has been labeled, along with the DROID, the LG Voyager, the Samsung Instinct, the HTC HD2 and some others as the 'iPhone killer',a label that none of the devices was able to stand up to).

As far as Adobe is concerned, Jobs says the reason that the iPhone doesn't support Flash is because it's so buggy. He even stated that the rare times when a Mac crashes, it is usually due to Flash. Jobs also predicted that no one would be using Flash in the future, turning instead to html5 which is somewhat ironic. Why? Because html5 is the platform used by Google to allow the new browser supported Google Voice app to bypass Apple's App Store and work on mobile Safari. The CEO also says that Adobe has the potential to do many great things, but just doesn't and he calls the company lazy.

Wow, it sounds like someone got up on the wrong side of his iBed this morning. Perhaps he should take a tablet and see the Doctor. Anyway, for those iPhone/iPod Touch users who have been waiting for Adobe to release a version of Flash for mobile Safari, it doesn't sound like you might see it released soon.

source: Wired via BGR



1. tflex

Posts: 146; Member since: Oct 24, 2008

Best part of the article is the mention of all of the supposed" iphone killers" not able to stand up to the iphone. Iphone will never die. It would of happened by now and i cant wait for thr 4th gen iphone. I think google really went wrong not offering their device through carriers and only online. They could sell so many more phones through tmobile or whoever else gets it. Alotta people buy their phones through the carrier at a store or online. Ah well. I wont be getting any other phone anyway. Im content with my iphone.

2. testman22

Posts: 339; Member since: Nov 03, 2009

Looks like iphone just committed suicide. Steve Jobs is shooting himself in the foot by burning all the bridges to the biggest companies in the tech world.

3. tuminatr

Posts: 1124; Member since: Feb 23, 2009

sounds like a megalomaniac to me, what a tool

4. rhomaion

Posts: 187; Member since: Sep 23, 2009

Oh yes because let me tell you how many times Apple required Google or Adobe's services for their iPhone... oh wait... they didn't did they?

8. mcmkone

Posts: 54; Member since: Mar 24, 2009

To be honest he hasn't burnt his bridges at all he's challenging them companies to do what they're their for.. to be creative and work harder... come on when you really think about it he's right Flash is crap, Google got it totally wrong with the Nexus and there hasn't been a phone yet to date that could come close to the ease of use a touch screen phone gives you with the iPhone. I'm not a huge fan of the iPhone and i only have one because i can jailbreak it, if I couldn't then i wouldn't have one simple.. but you have to give credit to Apple for making a lot of good technology ideas come true... although they really did mess up on the iPad... my good who's really gonna pay £300 for a large ipod touch which he claims and i quote, the cross device between a Mac and a Iphone... hummm funny that, No USB, No front facing Camera, No GPS....? How is this a cross device....??? somebody tell me....???

15. MR521

Posts: 47; Member since: Jun 12, 2009

rhomaion...of course apple has used google's services. The stock search engine on an iphone/ipod is GOOGLE ( i think now switched to Bing). As far as Adobe, well he should cuz its lame that a user can view cool sites supporting flash for video, on a sweet device like the iphone. Jobs is just nuts. His product is good, but android is doing a hell of a job with their OS. And whether it is recognized or not, the Droid and the Nexus One ARE iphone killers, otherwise why would Jobs point out that Apple didn't go into the search business, so why should Google go after the iPhone? Good job Google and Android, keep 'em comin!

18. BrokenImaege

Posts: 173; Member since: Jul 27, 2009

Agreed, what change he had of Adobe and getting it on his device, probably just got put on hold.... So in a month or two, let me know how Hulu works on your IPhone cause I know my DROID will do it. :-)

19. testman22

Posts: 339; Member since: Nov 03, 2009

iphone does do plenty right. but heaven forbid that an apple competitor has a technology that other people enjoy and use. Steve Jobs sees a threat in google and adobe so he automatically dismisses it. And alllllll the apple fan boys drinking the apple koolaid are going to be good sheep and believe him. Competition is the only thing thats going to help apple stay alive. Instead of steve jobs name calling and pointing fingers, maybe he should step up his game and make improvements like flash support, multitasking, customization, etc...

29. Russki

Posts: 45; Member since: Dec 26, 2009

Dont you guys get it? the Nexus one is just a teaser. Its not the "Google Phone" If any of you even cared to find out ( and most fanboys wont, they'll just be ignorant fanboys) The nexus one was made to test the limits of the Android operating system, Flash, and some other cool new technoligy. The REAL google phone will feature a qualcomm dual core mobile processor that is in the final testing phase right now. It will reach speeds of 1.5ghz without sacrificing battery power And having access to flash on your phone will allow you to access millions of apps offered through your browser ( and many others), and the extra processing power will usher in a new era of gaming and app expirience on a mobile device. oh and did i mention you can multi-task on an android phone? And a note to steve jobs - HTML5 wont work on a mobile device unless said device has some massive battery life and intense processing power. Having HTML5 on a 3gs would be like trying to sustain an elephant on food portions ment for a small dog.

5. rhomaion

Posts: 187; Member since: Sep 23, 2009

Besides this article is a load of BS to start with...

7. nak1017

Posts: 328; Member since: Jan 08, 2010

Seriously, this article sounds cooked...

6. GlenF

Posts: 50; Member since: Nov 02, 2009

What i've always noticed, is when a competitor is insignifigant, you make an quick joke, then bury them and forget they existed. When you're threatened/cornered by an up and coming competitor you spend your time telling your employees how much they suck, how lazy they are, how they're out of their zone of expertise. Either Steve is on Roids (not Droids) to be able to have the strength to handle day to day operations, and it's making him a little hostile, or he's just given away exactly how worried he is about Android... Either way this should get messy and fun also, love how this dumba** site puts in their two cents about "I-phone killers" There's journalistic integrity for you....


Posts: 27; Member since: Jan 22, 2010

I agree at the last thing you said... Killing the iPhone? What are you talking about... Let's say: I have the choice to choose ANY smartphone out there (like I did on 24 dec 2009 when I choose the HD2). I will not go for the iPhone. No way. Even the idea to trow away all that money, for what? A 3,5 inch screen, with a button, a lockscreen, and all your apps together. Even when I jailbroke my iPod Touch 2nd 8 months ago or whatever I just could not make the iPhone more 'complicated'. It is just to simple for me. Off course for the MANY simple people out there, the iPhone is heaven. They enjoy that Appstore with all the fart apps! We all know that most major apps come to all AppStore's and all Smartphone's.. I am done with all the stupid iPhone fanboys and news. If they all would have the attitude of 'We have a good smartphone, with a good and simple OS, and the best AppStore out there' I would be happy with them and agree. But when they all have the attitude of 'WE ARE THE KINGZ. NOBODY CAN KILL ZEH IPHONE'... I just have no more respect for them.

10. becazican unregistered

I dont understand why anyone wants to make an iphone killer, I love apple and i think the iphone revolutionized the smartphone industry. i definitly would of bought one except for the service they are connected to, "at&t". i had them for a year got so fed up with them called their customer service and was on hold 45 min, they told me they were shorthanded, i told them for a company that is in the business of communications they fail miserably. Also i think the iphone is very cool but i dont think the phone call quality is anything to write home about. i love my droid and look forward to nexus one, as for steve going off on adobe and google, he needs a vacation.

12. renegade626

Posts: 54; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

The reason anyone wants to make an Iphone killer is a couple main reasons a) In Marketing one of the main strategies is to Attack the leader and try to taker their spot in the market. Unless a company is ok with being less than number one, this is a very common way to market. b) Open architecture. google is very anti-proprietary and obviously apple is very pro-propietary, and this conflict almost becomes an ethics debate. c) $$$$ (of course)

11. renegade626

Posts: 54; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

Oh.. how exciting First I have to LoL because Steve Jobs admits that flash actually crashes his mac hahaha.... Ive had Win7 for a while and have never experienced a crash in general (not even my firefox running flash or no flash crashes). Other than that this must be the first time that a bead of sweat has rolled down apples neck because they could actually lose a large chunk of the market to a single concept. I think apples gonna have do to a little better than a 10" Itouch to regain its stature in their market otherwise their going to have to move over. I guess all giants eventually get matched at some point.

13. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

the problem is, steve jobs and apple has been praised for too long by Ibots and idiots as the "kings of this or that". Their products, like them or not (and i dont), revolutionized the industries of cell phones and MP3 players. Unfortunatly they have only made very MINOR improvements since the start. Being on top makes you less "agressive" and more "protective". The people in 2nd,3rd,4th place are still agressive to get to the top, by findind something better than the crown. The person with the crown stops being agressive and only makes minor tweaks. This is exactly what your seeing. It happends to every company that has been on top for too long. Look at MS, GM, on and on and now apple. Quite simply, hes attacking because hes worried because hes losing market share and everyone is making fun of him for the Ipad. oh and phone arena... way to show your ibot love with that iphone killers comment. The iphone is an outdated piece of garbage. Android FTW :)

14. jrcrow79

Posts: 477; Member since: May 02, 2008

I think jobs wanted to challenge those companies who think they know better about building their devices compared to apples reputation for building theirs..hell adobe wont get an my iphone cause they dont wanna give apple stock n company buyouts to adobe..but that just my own opinion!!

16. superjew

Posts: 7; Member since: Jun 02, 2009

I have a friend who uses that exact language, calling people "lazy" when they do things he doesn't agree with. I am pretty sure photoshop, premier, after-effects, flash, and the rest were not a result of a lazy company, and Steve Jobs needs to stop being so pretentious. Dude, you make electronics, get over it. Your Ipad won't usher mankind into another age of reason, and if EVERYONE is complaining that your products don't do something, maybe instead of calling them lazy you should give the people what they want.

17. Mayday3420

Posts: 61; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Sounds to me like this can't handle a little bit of competition. As soon as he truly found a competitor he tries to rip apart the entire company and their product. If they were really so badly made then he wouldn't have to comment on them at all cause their product will speak for themselves.... what a tool.

20. sleepyjohnny

Posts: 151; Member since: Dec 16, 2009

instead of making a better product, he complains now that a phone has hit the iphones nerve and he sees that he may actually have to use some of the huge profit he has made from the iphone and other mac products to actually create a better product. (as sarcastic as can be) poor jobs...

21. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

I've read other versions of this same story on other websites, and each time Jobs has been qouoted as saying a different variation of the same thing; So I wonder about the actual journalistic integrity of these claims. But I agree about Flash. It's a (slowly) dying technology. And I think you can thank Adobe for that. If any of you can remember, Flash was originally done by Macromedia, and at the time, was a great product. Now that Adobe has taken over, Flash has started to become somewhat of a dinosaur, with minor updates that don't seem to do add a whole lot. I think the fact that HTML5 is becoming more and more popular and recognized, and the fact that Steve has essentially said he won't support Flash; Not to mention the fact that the iPhone is responsible for the vast majority of mobile web browsing traffic, HTML5 has an even greater probability of becoming the standard in the near future. As far as Google and Android are concerned, I personally am glad they are in the current market, to help drive innovation and creativity in the mobile market. This way, we as consumers win. Does Android have the ability to sync seamlessly with my Mac? That's personally the biggest reason that the iPhone on VZW appeals to me. The BB syncing capabilities with my Mac are less than average, at best.

22. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

easy answer, get a PC like most people... then u dont have to worry about only buying apple products to work with apple products. :)

23. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Ha! Easy answer to that is an emphatic NO! While having a Mac might create a few MINOR headaches, it's well with it in terms of ease of use and reliability. Every PC I've ever used has had some kind of buggy quirk to it. Not to mention the fact that all those PCs require some kind of "anti-viral" program to keep them safe; And those just add to the already choppy user experience.

24. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

BTW, was I to assume from your response, that Android does NOT have any kind of Mac support?

26. renegade626

Posts: 54; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

You obviously havnt used windows 7..... personally I dont like to shell out twice the cash for all the propietary junk... I dont even use much for antivirus because I know what im doing on my pc/internet and I havnt had a problem for years... But I guess thats why people buy macs, because they dont have a clue and dont want one...

27. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Ugh, all I ever hear out of PC users is the same old "Mac users are idiots...the only people who buy Macs are people that don't know how to use a computer." I've never had a problem with any of my Macs either. If you think that by me wanting a computer to run the way it should, w/o problems, and lousy complications, then yes, consider me clueless!

30. Russki

Posts: 45; Member since: Dec 26, 2009

Who the fuck uses mac? what good is a mac... i still dont understand why. Seems its only good because apple says it is look at the numbers. Out of the millions of people who use computers - 60% PC. 27% Mac. 10% linux. 3% other

31. Russki

Posts: 45; Member since: Dec 26, 2009


32. renegade626

Posts: 54; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

ok... your clueless... (what you just said makes you sound like same stereotypical mac user).... All I ever hear from mac users is its easy, I dont have problems... All you need now is to stand in a white room with your mac next to you could be in a TV commercial

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