Verizon to have the iPhone around February 1st with unlimited data, Apple disposes of its restocking fee
In the meantime, rumors point that Apple has held staff meetings over the weekend it will no longer have the 10% restocking fee, starting tomorrow, and Apple's employees have allegedly been told no vacation time for three weeks starting Monday, January 24th, so the puzzle pieces are falling into place.
What are a few more days, we would say, when we have been waiting a good 3.5 years for that announcement. Verizon is also confident that its 3G network will be perfectly capable to handle the additional 9-12 million iPhones analysts expect it to sell. "Whether they are iPhones or Droids, they are smartphones. Regardless of the mix, we are prepared to carry more data.", said Verizon's CEO Ivan Seidenberg when interviewed on the subject. Verizon has been slowly adding capacity in 2010, possibly in preparation for the additional data demand.
Another rumor is that the Verizon iPhone 4 will be available with the existing data plans that the carrier offers, which means there will be an unlimited data option, which currently runs at $29.99 a month on top of your voice plan. This will be a major selling point for Verizon as well, besides having a more stable network than AT&T, which got overwhelmed by the iPhone usage in the last few years. AT&T offers a capped 2GB data plan for $25, and we are sure there won't be many users reluctant to upgrade to unlimited for just five bucks extra on Verizon.
AT&T has been preparing for the loss of exclusivity by allowing early upgrades, slashing the iPhone 3GS price to $49, and introducing a trio of amazing Android smartphones at CES this year. The carrier also started bashing Verizon's CDMA network, saying that iPhone users should prepare for life in the "slow lane" there. We will know pretty soon how it all pans out, the big announcement is expected tomorrow.
Meanwhile, an extremely blurry photo was snapped Friday of a Verizon executive holding an iPhone 4, and secretly showing it off to pals at a private meeting. Nothing can be seen in the photo, as its been snapped in the dark and in a hurry, plus the phone obviously has a bumper, but the sheer fact that a Verizon manager is holding an iPhone 4 and showing it off pours some more water in the already overflowing rumor mill.
source: WSJ, 9to5Mac & Neowin
1. baldilocks (Posts: 608; Member since: 14 Dec 2008)
Hopefully Verizon does get the iPhone. I'll not switch to Verizon for it, but it will be good for competition.
I wonder what will keep cell phone blogs full after it does happen though?
21. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
well, then they will go back to the sprint/tmobile iphone rumors! lol.
3. dha06025820540508580258 (unregistered)
a blurry pic with a big ol' glair on the screen where the alpha-tag should be.......
4. tedkord (Posts: 7677; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Hopefully Verizon doesn't get the iPhone - we don't need the network congestion. And since I know there's no way that Apple would give up any control over the iPhone (what you can/cannot install, etc...), it's not really for me.
Who knows, though. This may all be wrong.
5. Hallucinator (Posts: 344; Member since: 24 May 2010)
I would love Verizon to get the Iphone. I would pick it up in a heart beat. However, I will not hold my breath. We have all heard this a million times.
6. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 936; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)
Even the iPhone made it to Verizon before some WP7 devices... I'm not an Apple kind of guy, I don't need 50 billion useless apps... Its not about quantity, its about quality. And, following that note, I prefer for function to form.
Not saying that the iPhone isn't capable, it surely is. I'm just saying it is no longer the lone kid on the block. It revolutionized the smart phone industry, and has given rise to Android and WP7.
I just wish people would wake up and put the pressure on Apple, instead of just trying to run toe-to-toe with it. Balls to the wall. Windows, especially, needs to make a break through!
7. Slammer (Posts: 1484; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
"Given Apple's track record of releasing phones two to four weeks after their announcement, the WSJ expects that the iPhone 4 will appear on the shelves at Verizon's stores and online in the end of January - beginning of February timeframe."
Has Apple made an announcement yet? They very well could make an announcement pertaining to a release, but in all honesty here, this is pure speculation and just media lusting so bad for this news.
The media has been creating and circulating this rumor for 3 years. Eventually you end up being correct.
Here are my thoughts:
Verizon is essentially adopting an old device. The overwhelming consensus is that a 4-4.3" screen is now the preferred choice for smartphones amongst Individuals purchasing one. The iPhone still uses a 3.5" and there is wasted space on the hardware. Many of my colleagues that own iPhone4s, have expressed how much the extra screen real-estate has attracted their decision to move up.
"4G" has now begun to move forward into the mainstream vocabulary of wireless consumers. Unless there is some huge surprise, the VZW iPhone is still going to be 3G. After experiencing 4G speeds, this iPhone offering becomes even more less attractive in my opinion.
With dual core powerhouse devices making their way to the market, this iPhone offering further negates an attractive purchase. Keep in mind the new iPhone will be near release in the coming months which could squash this variant. In my opinion, anyone purchasing this initial iphone, is throwing their money away.
Did they fix the antenna design for the VZW variant? Apple has had enough time to rectify the design. Have we heard of any redesign on the iphone4 or are they going to institute the same issue over to VZW? The last I heard, the redesign was for the new iPhone.
I enjoy success stories and Apple is an example of being able to come back from the brink of destruction. I was among that era. But now most of their sales have been generated by hype from friends and trend. I am seeing a large interest being turned to the direction of Android. The more market Android captures, the more peers and colleages adopt what their constituents acquire. It is evident that Apple will remain a strong entity. But there is now life beyond Apple.
So in short, the power of Media is slowly losing against their own initiative. You keep pushing and pushing the iphone, while in perspective, the majority of the world is starting to ignore your beliefs. It has come to fact that most are still locked in contract. Once these contracts run dry, many are going to flee dictatorship and seek solitude in freedom to do what they want with devices they spend top dollar for. Why is it Apple can make more profit on the dollar than others? Because they have individuals that will spend cash on a product they have no control over. Steve sits back and says I don't need to offer this or this, because people are going to buy my products anyway.
Not me. It's my money.
8. Ashnnat (Posts: 15; Member since: 18 Oct 2010)
“…the WSJ (Wall street Journal) expects…”
“…rumors point that Apple…”
“…Apple's employees have allegedly been told…”
“Another rumor is that the Verizon iPhone 4…”
To quote Mugato: "Am I the only one who can see this? I'm going crazy!
seriously, this is not a news article! this a forum post disguised as such! when Steve Jobs says it. THEN I'll believe it.
9. becazican (unregistered)
to late for verizon to acquire this, too many great android devices out there, and verizon billing will suck you dry, switched to sprint 6 months ago and have never been happier, plus 40.00 bucks richer every month. love my evo.
10. Jay Mal (unregistered)
Why is verizon even wanting the iphone when android is killing the iphone and out selling everything and there still more androids being made as i type that getting better and better if that even possible. iphone has no adobe flash 10.1, no external memory, no battery that can be easily replaced, 32 pin charger which is different from any charger you probably have right now. i mean i like the iphone and all i purchased a ipod touch 4 gen., had it for about a month then sold it cause i can do all it does and more on my droid X, and all the app you pretty much have to pay for, where android you may have some advertiseing going on within the app but hey its FREE for the most part. Androids are fast as heck. I was a super iphone fan and at&t fan when they first were announced but after moving from atlanta and back to my home town in northeast north carolina and know signal or data coverage, I switched to verizon and they proved the iphone and at&t as a lesser threat. everyone is so amazed with the iphone even older people that dont know nothing about smartphones just because theres a HUGE apple, or iphone hype that they so greatly started. i just dont understand how people dont see that Android and Verizon together are taking over and doing it well. Glad to be with Verizon but hate that we are jumping onto the iphone apple wagon, we have the samsung galaxy tab which is better than the ipad for one huge reason it has adobe flash 10.1, if there is nothing else that makes it better then thats the only thing is needs to make it better if you are going to carry a tablet around instead of your netbook or laptop wouldnt you atleast want to be able to go to the same sites that you would or your pc. laptop. or notebook? cant on a ipad or an iphone. like the VZW commercial says "droid does"
12. Hallucinator (Posts: 344; Member since: 24 May 2010)
You lost credibility in your post as soon as you said that Android is Killing the Iphone. Actually the Iphone is still outselling android(not by much). Also you have about 8 million different Android phones against 2 iphones. Don't get me wrong, I think android is a great platform, I just happen to prefer the iphone. Also the galaxy tab is not even close to the ipad. I have used both extensively and the Ipad was hands down better in quality and use. Just because you are an android fan(atic) does not mean you should blindly pick something just because it is android( which is what is implied to anyone who picks the iphone.) Now the Xoom tablet has a bootload of potential and Apple will have to bust their ass to keep up with that beast. Please see that I am in no way bashing Android.
16. LionStone (Posts: 562; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)
For U.S. smartphone "subscribers", RIM is #1, with Android just recently passing Apple...so this does say something.
Also from just what some friends have said about the ipad when testing, "maybe the next version".Because basically, it's just a stripped down model and the new tablets are the ones many are waiting for and what the next ipads will become.
At JFK airport, as part of their renovation project, they just installed the ipad in little A-frames (one on each side) on tables in terminals where you can order food on the menu (ipad). Which is a good, simple use for that device, but would be overkill for a tablet like the Xoom.
20. LionStone (Posts: 562; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)
ah, to clarify...the Xoom would be overkill for a task such as I described with the menu for the ipad.
14. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)
You lost me when u said the 30 pin. That is the best part. My 3gs, now my iph4 wifes iph4 kids touch. Everything uses same plug. Unlike your shit other phones. Nothing matches up. Everytime you upgrade you need to replace everything.
You have no idea what you are talking about!
15. LionStone (Posts: 562; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)
"Unlike your shit other phones. Nothing matches up."??
You mean like when I switched over from my BB Bold to my Droid Incredible and didn't have to buy any new chargers because they matched up?
22. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, hey hawk, every manufacturer uses the same charger now.. exept apple. cable 100 aka MICRO USB.
apple is smart in that they convince people to buy this product and then only this other product syncs properly to it. in the end u wind up with 5 apple products that only work together so you will never leave apple. its a chineese finger trap. sad that so many people are actually happy about it.. lol.
18. LionStone (Posts: 562; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)
"Why is verizon even wanting the iphone..."
Because they can grab many ip subscribers from AT&T. When a new subscriber is given a choice between a Droid or the ip, I believe the percentages will tip towards the Droids. However those that have the ip and want better coverage, they will switch to VZW just for that, which will probably be a good percentage. My buddy already said he would...and I know he isn't the only one that will.
11. jayme (Posts: 36; Member since: 10 Jan 2011)
Verizon is essentially getting a phone that dosent even stand up to LG's latest offering, which is pretty crummy. Any how i really look forward to seeing this phone in realtime with its direct competion. This is the beginning of the end of Apples stupid iPhone.
13. wyvell05 (Posts: 2; Member since: 10 Jul 2010)
If the iphone is coming to verizon will they let you get an early upgrade for those who are not eligible just yet like att did when the released the iphone 4?
17. iWantThunderbolt (unregistered)
I think that the rumors are true and that the iPhone is coming but I think that its a little to late for it drop on Verizon. Verizon is going to 4G and this is rumored to be a CDMA version. It's a waste of money to buy a CDMA version. Right now Android has got it going on and at CES nothing was mentioned about Windows Phone 7 so you ever thought it could be an event about that??
19. henry1086 (Posts: 9; Member since: 26 May 2010)
the iphone is getting old now. sure its internet experience is amazing but what droid phone doesnt match it or supersede its quality. You also take into account that droids are customizable and they run flash and are open based instead of apple telling you how to use the phone. if they do bring it onto verizon cool, but i still think android is going to take over. Iphone had better not clog up verizon's network because that can only mean trouble. where will we go to next? metro pcs?
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
why would vzw want it? because its about choice. and its about subscribers. if 1/3 of ATT iphone subscribers drop evil blue and go red, thats a huge increase in subscriber base. like it or not, iphone was the worlds 2nd most popular phone brand (until this month) and they werent even on every carrier like android is. once iphone hits VZW (and eventually tmo and sprint this year probably), it will probably recapture 2nd place. its a numbers game and the winner will be VZW (and tmo/sprint if they get it) and the loser will be ATT.
If the iphone was availible on every network, would you att iphone fanboys still stick with ATT, or would u go where service is cheaper (sprint/tmo) or nearly everywhere (vzw). All of which have better service and speed ratings than ATT. Everyone wins exept ATT which will see a mass loss of iphone subscribers.
24. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Speed ratings have shown AT&T as fastest...but I get your point....
25. newfdog 13 (Posts: 64; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
The thing still can't run Flash on websites! I just love the little question mark blips that are over the screen on mine when I hit a sit that has Flash or a pic that can't be seen by the iPhone. I'm on an Android now with Verizon and I'm not looking back!
26. orlandoman (unregistered)
Will they habe equipment coverage on that device or not is the question? I know many people who left At&t because they couldn't afford to replace the iPhone at full retail.
27. seabreeze (unregistered)
I know why there are so many android fan boys on every wireless comment board..........
Their lousy, stinking, 3rd rate android battery gave out 2 hours after charging. They've got nothing better to do.
I have owned the Incredible, Eris, and Moto Droid 2 in hopes of finding one that will get me through the day. No such luck...android battery performance is crap.
Although I love the OS, I'll stick to my old BB until they get something that doesn't crap out by noon. I have better things to do that to be searching for an ac outlet at noon.
28. stjcripes (Posts: 27; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Does anyone know if and where there'll be a live webcast of tomorrow's announcement?
29. atl (unregistered)
Also, keep in mind that AT&T stop advertising the Iphone for past 30 days.
30. darthray (Posts: 72; Member since: 04 Nov 2009)
I was debating when my upgrade will coming onalong later in the year. Between iphone 4 or htc thunderbolt. I leaning towards htc thunderbolt cause of the size, the speed, and the freedom of customization.
32. Junior (Posts: 52; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)
I'm pretty much in the same situation but my current phone is not going to last me long enough for the Thunderbolt to be released.
33. darktriad (Posts: 2; Member since: 10 Jan 2011)
I believe that even with the announcement of Verizon acquiring the iPhone will help alleviate some of the network congestion that AT&T has been shouldering ever since they started carrying it. At least for an AT&T customer like me, hopefully it'll make for better/smoother 3G speeds and create healthy competition between carriers while Jobs sits on his throne, snickering at these two major carriers bickering against each other about who'll provide the better iPhone experience. Still a win for Mr. Jobs since he'll be bringing in more revenue and for the consumer because of choice of carrier.
On another note, I've never seen proof that other carriers other than AT&T that can handle active voice calls and using data at the same time, in which Verizon cannot do. If this is true, wouldn't be Verizon be in trouble especially if their CDMA technology cannot handle that feature?
34. darktriad (Posts: 2; Member since: 10 Jan 2011)
Also, I wouldn't think it would be a wise idea for new and existing Verizon customers to grab an iPhone as soon as possible, especially with the trend that Apple has been doing every year during the summer by announcing new iPhones models. I would imagine that would make some Verizon customers regret signing their contract too early only to wait a few months later that another new iPhone is going to be released, in which they probably could've paid the same price for from when they signed their contract.
35. Holmes (unregistered)
VZW has put the iPhone down since it came out, but secretly wanted it. Kind of like how the Wii put down GTA games as being violent only because the Wii could not handle the graphics. Now (maybe) they get it and they promote it as the greatest thing in the world. Thye ALWAYS feared AT&T and it's iPhone more than anything. Even with their smartphones, they kept dropping cutomers because of the iPhone alone.
36. daschode (unregistered)
i agree with slammer if you keep saying something is goin to happen it eventually will perfect example before smart phones where "all the rage" every one wanted the motorola razr and it was only available on at the time xcingular...(did i spell that right) who is now owned by att well as every one kept saying i want it on my mobile carrier it happened. so you had a bunch of people goin i guessed it no it was going to happen in the long run. nut back to the vzw i phone the media has been predicting it since its release in 07 which basically means THEY HAVE BEEN GUESSING SINCE 2007 and if it does hit the market in February then it was basically just saying some thing until it happens which brings me to my next point yes alot of people have other smart phones becides the iphone all use alot of data at a time a cell tower can only handle so much which is like having a 100 people walk in to a restaurant and say i want chicken and the restaurant only has 65 chickens so the limited chicken mst be evenly divided amongst all the people same concept with people with cell phone the tower can only give so much data so now it has to evenly divide so every one isent goin to get the worlds best service as promised. and personaly yes i have a blackberry and yes i will preorder an iphone if it does happen to come to vzw but im also not goin to be a fool and believe with out seeing