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Samsung Galaxy S IV might use Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset across the board instead of Exynos

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Samsung Galaxy S IV might use Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset across the board instead of Exynos
Exynos 5 Octa or other ARM Cortex-A15 Exynos chips from Samsung might have proved a tough nut to crack in terms of thermal envelope and power consumption when placed into a handset, which has prompted Samsung to use a Snapdragon chipset in the upcoming Galaxy S IV flagship, claims Korean media publication.

We've heard rumors before that Samsung has a few versions of the handset with different Exynos and Qualcomm silicon in the lab, and it might be that the S IV has been greenlit with Qualcomm's finest instead of the homebrew Exynos brand.

It is indeed hard to beat the Snapdragon family when it comes to system-on-a-chip performance, as the chipsets come with the baseband radio that covers most of the world's networks integrated as well.

The new HTC One rocks a Snapdragon 600, clocked at 1.7 GHz, and we saw the alleged Galaxy S IV leak a few times already with the carrier versions GT-I9505/SHV-E300S/SHV-300L/SCH-I545 sporting Adreno 320 GPU and the CPU clocked at 1.9 GHz, which is precisely the maximum reported frequency for the quad-core Qualcomm processor with four Krait cores. 

Not to complain, though, as the benchmarks from Snapdragon 600 are coming back north of 12, 000 points on Quadrant, which means there won't be a task or an app to slow it down. This rumor is also certain to send Qualcomm's shares through the roof if it holds water, considering the many millions of sales expected for Samsung's 2013 battleship.

source: DT.co.kr via Techkiddy

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posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:14 14

1. IliyaBeshkov (Posts: 244; Member since: 09 Jul 2012)


but why?

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:22 14

5. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


because exynos octa haven't been on the mass production stage yet.. I guess.

Maybe exynos octa will be used next year for s5 or for the note 3.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:54 8

21. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5953; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


My guess is the Note III sees Sammy's new chipset. GS IV gets S600.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:39 6

40. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1104; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


But man this sucks a lot!
S600 is good...but how will sammy's S4 even sell half the number of S3 if it has no unique factor? The exynos chips though not the main selling point have always attracted customers to Sammy's flagship and the exynos has been showered with praise!

I am waiting on the Note 3 but if Sammy loses advantage at manufacturing which is Sammy's key strengh then I might as well go in for sony or htc as they definitely have better lookin and better built handsets. Note 3 however is a different story and its so much more than a phone

But this could see Sammy's flagship heading the Apple way....Brand value is good but it aint everything and you just cant expect your product to sell if you cant differentiate it from the rest. I have been a Sammy supporter but lets face it Sammy aint takin any prizes in looks or build quality....so again how will the S4 prevail over the competition?

ALso this could be a much needed boon for HTC One and Sony

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:19 2

50. darkkjedii (Posts: 12619; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


It will still b a great device bro.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 10:14 3

59. htc_prep (Posts: 303; Member since: 09 Oct 2009)


i agree with you on the exynos being the differentiation that would set it apart but in usage there wasnt a difference between real usage on the international (exynos) S3 and the US carrier branded (Snapdragon) S3.

I have an S3 as a secondary device and i tested it hand in hand with my brothers S3 that he runs on Three when he hops the pond. they perform the same.

also the Sprint S2 was exynos and it performed the same as AT&T an T'mos version.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 11:42 5

76. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Majority of smart phone buyers don't know the difference between S600 or Exynos. Power users of course. Ask anyone with a S3, and most of them won't know what chip is in their phone let alone make it their selling point.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:57 4

90. Taters (Posts: 3598; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Samsung build quality is great with the magnesium skeleton they use on all of their high end phones. I never had a single problem with any Galaxy S phone and they are extremely durable and have great heat sink properties. I can't say the same about HTC unfortunately.

Don't let the opinions of haters affect your personal view. Samsung has been manufacturing products for years, I think they know how to design a product more than most.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 23:32 2

129. ngo2dd (Posts: 793; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Great build it lost to the iPhone 4s in drops test. Blind fanboy at it besthttp://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=K7e9ebi41Wc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DK7e9ebi41Wc

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 18:59 1

108. ckoch125 (Posts: 191; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Didn't slow down the s3 sales. I'd rather have more efficient processor and better battery life. This will handle whatever you throw at it. The octa core is all for marketing.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 22:48 2

126. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Did you see the benchmark scores of the Snapdragon 600? Trust me, you'll be just fine with it in your SGS4.

It's the same damn thing as it was last year with some of you guys.

"OMFG WHAT, US SGS3 WONT HAVE QUADCORE EXYNOS AND WILL HAVE DUAL CORE SNAPDRAGON S4 PROCESSOR?!? OMFGG NOOOO!"

And yet the S4 processor proved to be just as good, it's still a great processor for the average user, I was very pleased with the SGS3 on AT&T and I know several other people with Droid RAZR HD MAXXs and other devices with the S4 processor and they all love their devices as well, never complain about lag or freezing.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:35 5

53. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Then I'll stick with the HTC one

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:54 1

89. abdane (Posts: 478; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


dont think so, maybe the US version will be Snapdragon, but international will be exynos, idk if octa or not, but definitely exynos !

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 17:55

106. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)


well thats just impossible. cause Note series is the highest end from Samsung in terms of hardware. and thats the same hardware as S series phones from sammy. whatever S IV would use, would be used in Note III but on steroids...

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:24 3

7. imsickwithsmartphone (Posts: 153; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


I can't BELIEVE THAT!!

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:38 2

14. Diego! (Posts: 508; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


I agree. I can't believe this. Not at all!

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:57 5

46. rd_nest (Posts: 824; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


Don't trust such things. They just randomly come up out of nowhere. I will tell you the latest development in terms of Exynos.

In the ISSCC (International Solid-State Circuits Conference) Samsung explained the Octa architecture. The presentation was held just yesterday.

Main highlights are that the A7 is super efficient in terms of power. It takes around just 17% (or just 1/6th) of the energy required by A15. A15 also needs around 4x more die space. It's around 2-3x more powerful than A7. It will be included in next Samsung flagship.

http://i.imgur.com/8w9HJu5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sxw114U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tk1X6xR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1xQT29i.jpg

They also showed first mobile SoC with programmable GPGPU. This takes around 10x less power for various encoding/decoding purposes.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2249399/samsung-develops-a-programmable-mobile-gpu

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:02 1

48. Yeahman (Posts: 33; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


"It will be included in next Samsung flagship." They didn't say that, did they? Anyway, I hope that they do put it in the S IV.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:00 2

78. rd_nest (Posts: 824; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


http://www.anandtech.com/show/6768/samsung-details-exynos-5-octa-architecture-power-at-isscc-13

See, what I told you. You don;t need Aannd to tell you everything !!

[big smile...]

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 17:33

105. MrJerry (Posts: 398; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


I wanna believe this

Exynos is much cooler than Snapdragon

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:02 2

47. easymomo (Posts: 91; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


According to Sammobile, it's beacause Exynos 5 Octa does not have LTE integrated
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/20/samsung-may-use-snapdragon-600-quad-core-inside-their-galaxy-s-iv/
Only LTE devices will use S600

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:06 1

82. rd_nest (Posts: 824; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


If you read properly, you will understand that Samsung intentionally doesn't integrate modem with SoC. According to them it's easier to work on them independently.

If you want to read, here's the white paper:

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/competitive.pdf

BTW, there are 2 different types of SoC in Snapdragon family. APQ and MSM. APQ prefix stands for Application Processor Qualcomm and it refers to an SoC that does not have an integrated modem. MSM line all have integrated Qualcomm modems.

S600 doesn't have integrated LTE.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:10 1

85. JWS65 (Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)


That doesn't make much sense. Samsung already figured out LTE radio for Exynos in Note 2 last year. So why can't Exynos 5 do the same?

Also it's not just US market, virtually all versions of it need to support LTE now. Samsung surely must have developed Exynos 5 with LTE in mind.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 22:39

125. ThirdEye (Posts: 17; Member since: 31 Oct 2012)


Nope. The Note 2 was using Samsung Exynos Quadcore for SOC duties combined with a Qualcomm Gobi MDM 9x15 series.

Samsung had a lucky break in the latter half of 2012 where in Qualcomm was unable to integrate their QC core Krait and baseband into 1 chip. Hence they were using their MDM9x15 separately. So Samsung and NVIDIA had a breather wherein Note II and HTC One X+ used Exynos 4412 and Tegra3 QC chips respectively plus Gobi baseband while all other Qadcore phone competition like Nexus 4, Droid DNA etc used the traditional QC Krait with MDM9x15.

BTW 9x15 can be either MDM9215 - which is GSM + LTE (ATT, TMo) or MDM9615 which is EVDO+GSM+LTE (Sprint, Verizon).

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:31 4

51. robcar (Posts: 78; Member since: 18 Jan 2011)


Because Qualcomm chips performs better than Samsung's Exynos

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 10:15 3

60. urtard (banned) (Posts: 82; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


Qualcomm chipsets are horrible compared to Exynos.

I remember Qualcomm poking fun at Exynos for overheating and being inefficient. Now look at their S4 pro lmao. Brb 2 hour battery life. brb overheating to the point your phone will start cracking. Brb can barely beat exynos in performance even being released months after exynos

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:56 4

55. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Because they finally admitted that the Snapdragons are better than the Exynos.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 10:17 4

62. urtard (banned) (Posts: 82; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


Qualcomm chipsets are horrible compared to Exynos.

I remember Qualcomm poking fun at Exynos for overheating and being inefficient. Now look at their S4 pro lmao. Brb 2 hour battery life. brb overheating to the point your phone will start cracking. Brb can barely beat exynos in performance even being released months after exynos

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 19:45 2

112. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


Your name fits. You're also really defensive about a system on a chip, of all things.

Qualcomm makes a product that dominates smartphones because it's good. If it really had heat and power consumption issues no one would keep using it.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 19:44 1

111. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


Read the article. Power consumption and thermal output is too high on the Exynos 5.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:43

137. samsunggalaxylover (Posts: 37; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)


I don't think that samsung will do that.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:15

2. PunyPoop (Posts: 741; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)


Now this is interesting!

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:38 5

12. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


they should use snapdragon 800........

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:16 8

3. kizanko (Posts: 7; Member since: 28 Sep 2012)


I've alway been with samsung since the beginning cause the phones were top notch and performed really good. But nowadays the flagship phones are so powerfull it can do anything smooth and reliable so my options for getting a new phone are much more open.

If Samsung will bring out the Galaxy S4 with cheap plastic, simple design, touchwiz wich will bore me in a month and a Amoled that still can't show proper white colors then in a blink of a eye i will buy the HTC one.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:32 10

9. nobelset (Posts: 270; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


So you bought s2 and s3 knowing they have a touchwiz that is boring and most importantly a screen which you don't like? Everyone gets bored with their phones in a few weeks, I got bored with my lumia 800 in a few days! But that doesn't mean it sucks!

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 15:01 3

100. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Your phone sucks balls.
I'm not even close to being bored with my s3, after 5 months!
In fact I love it more and more

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 19:46 2

113. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


Which is why you have to justify your purchase online in a comment section?

Stop hating on people for their purchasing decisions. Your life is not affected in any way by another person buying a Lumia.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 20:40

124. nobelset (Posts: 270; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


I'm so glad you said it like that. I have a galaxy note 2. YOUR phone sucks balls.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 23:41

130. ngo2dd (Posts: 793; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Oh my god you have a note 2 you are like the coolest person. /s

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 04:20

133. nobelset (Posts: 270; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


You don't seem to have a firm grasp on what is going on here. Please try to think before jumping to conclusions like darac.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 08:28

135. kizanko (Posts: 7; Member since: 28 Sep 2012)


I bought the S3 which yes is indeed boring me now, I read reviews about the S3 having a pentile screen but with better colors which obviously wasn't as good looking as SLCD 2, though when it comes to blacks Amoled still rules, but the reason i went with the S3 was cause i was sure of it being a stable phone which will not crash easily or barely lag.

And where did i mention that it ''sucks''? I was aware of these things but after having 3 years of phones that have much too saturated colors and feel cheap and not really premium in your hands, is it weird to step over to a other phone? Or do i need your permission for it?

Like i said new flagships are all lag free and stable and Samsung isn't the only option for me anymore. Yes the Galaxy phones are really good, and i'm sure the S4 will not disappoint but i'm kind of tired with Samsung not changing it's designs into a more premium look and feel. And i'm glad HTC, Sony and Nokia are i'l wait and see if maybe the S4 might finally be plastic free, not a megapixel whore, have a fixed Amoled display and a good and slick looking design.

If not, then hello HTC One! :D

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:40 3

15. adisQ (Posts: 2; Member since: 20 Feb 2013)


Well said, I mean, if I wanted fast Android 2 years ago, I had to go for Samsung even though I didn't like the design very much, but now, all new flagships are soo powerful, that it doesn't metter if one is little faster than the other, it's impossible to notice. I like HTC One too, and it did make me want it for how it looks and how it is made, even though the camera is a bit risky for me. It is an expensive phone so I would like to be able to zoom in on my photos (and crop them)after all.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 10:07 2

57. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


Exactly right man. Anything with an S4 Pro or better is never lags or stutters ever, runs everything flawlessly and responds instantly. Finally as an android user its nice to have devices that just work.

From now on it all comes down to the design and software features of the phone. Its a huge relief as far as Im concerned.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 11:11 3

72. heyhi (Posts: 126; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)


I desagree man...its plastic but not cheap, ANY UI gets bored after some time and I would prefer have an AMOLED screen instead of the washed out screen of the Xperia Z...has more ppi though, but still...i love that vivid colours. The most boring UI you can have its Iphone's....in android or ios you can always root or jailbreak and install a cutsom rom, in case of android's...or a new launcher OR take a look at this website mycolorscreen.com...you'll completely change your mind when you see people's work...REALLY AMAZING GORGEOUS HOMESCREENS...a little hard work to do....you can thumb me up later =)

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 19:47 2

114. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


SLCD3 has a vivid screen without being overblown.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:18 3

4. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 107; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


this is pointless, why i need 1.9 quadcore cpu?. untill we can do all the things we do in a pc i dont need all that power. thats just xpensive. BRING THE PC IN HANDSETS

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:04 2

81. Knicknevin (Posts: 138; Member since: 18 Mar 2011)


with a quad 1.9 Ghz, we can all play crysis 3 on our phones now! j/k

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:07

84. ChrisG (Posts: 36; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)


You may be interested in this article about Ubuntu coming to Nexus 7 and 10 tablets (and also soon to phones) (add the http part):
cnet.co/15v6mKB

It'd be a great option to be able to have a tablet that can run full-fledged office suites like LibreOffice just by plugging in a keyboard and pointing device.

Or just Google "Ubuntu for phones". (Not supposed to include links I guess.)

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:23 8

6. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


I think we reached a point where processors are so powerful the only factors that make a smartphone better than anolther is SCREENS, CAMERAS, BATTERY LIFE and SOFTWARE ADD-ONS.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:45 4

17. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Actually in terms of browsing, photo/ data editing and gaming, there's still a room for huge improvement.
Even when I do system wide large file managing on my quad core S3, there's a noticeable lag.
Also, working on Sketchbook mobile with multiple high resolution layers for example, is far from smooth

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:06 4

28. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1057; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


But two things darac:
1) These SoCs are based on Krait 300 cores, around 40% over the A9 you use at the same clock. With the added clock speed they are 60% more powerful than the chip you use right now.
2) How many people do you think uses Sketchbook mobile with high resolution layers? (or anything that needs so much RAM, which is most likely the bottleneck there, not CPU).
For 95% of the people (me included) current mobile chips are powerful enough.
I also would like OEMs to concentrate more on battery life, screens and other things.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:15 1

35. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


Agree I think for the overwhelming majority today's current spec is more than good enough but power users will always want more...

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:53 1

43. Retro-touch (Posts: 264; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


Its actually 40% faster than A15-like krait such as one in Nexus 4 it should be much faster than A9

If you've ever used a GS3 and then used a N4 you'll be shocked at the speed difference, so you can imagine how much faster it would be

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:34 2

52. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1057; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Well, I don't know where you got that the original Krait (200) are as fast as the A15, but sorry, that's not right.
A15 are quite more performing, and the expectations are that not even Krait 300 will be as good.
Only when krait 400 is in the field Qualcomm will be at the same level as A15 in a "core to core" performance comparison.
Of course all this is to be proved as there aren't that many A15 in the market yet.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6568/qualcomm-krait-400-krait-300-snapdragon-800
"This isn't necessarily enough to close the gap between Krait 300 and ARM's Cortex A15"
"Compared to Atom, the Krait 300 improvements should be enough to at least equal performance if not surpass it, but not necessarily significantly."

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 19:48 1

115. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


And A15 uses much more power, so who cares?

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:38

39. rgxVOiD (Posts: 435; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)


Photo editing. PHOTO EDITING? WTF else do you want to do with your phone? Coffee machine like the Pomegranate phone?

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:50 2

42. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Yes, photo editing.
I actually do that on my phone. Its convenient.
All my photos are there, and I can use a stylus .. freaking better than being bent over a laptop!

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:30 2

8. Bfrenz (Posts: 106; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


Its a silly rumour by sammy. Remember the story of S3,they leaked many designs and clues themselves to distract us. OR Snapdragon for U.S? If its,thats a betrayal. I

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:07

29. Commentator (Posts: 2494; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


You, uh, kind of... trailed off... there... you...

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:35 3

10. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


This would be a tremendous blow to Samsung semiconductor division..
Taking away such a huge contract from your own factory and handing it out to greatest competitor??

OUCH, Samsung.. that would be your biggest fail in recent memory

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