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Samsung Display invests millions in OLED production lines, possibly to supply next-gen iPhone screens

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Samsung Display invests millions in OLED production lines, possibly to supply next-gen iPhone screens

It looks organic light-emitting diode (OLED) displays are indeed the way forward. English-language publication Business Korea reports that Samsung Display made a $325.73 million (400 billion won) investment in its existing flexible OLED manufacturing lines in Tangjeong.

The company spent its millions on purchasing production gear from 10 OLED equipment manufacturers for production facilities in a bid to double the factory's output from 15,000 pieces of mother glass to 30,000 pieces monthly. Mother glass is the largest possible size of glass produced that won't break under its own weight. It gets its name as it "gives birth" to many smaller flat-panel screens. Most of what makes a screen, the pixels and what connects them, are "grown" on the mother glass through layering materials and chemical processes.

The Tangjeong factory will become Samsung Display's largest flexible OLED production base. eBEST Investment & Securities Co. forecasts that Samsung Display's total flexible OLED panel production capabilities will be increased by more than two times, from the current 39,000 sheets per month to 90,000 sheets per month. The new lines are likely to start operating early next year.

Industry watchers speculate that Samsung Display has made the investment in a bid to meet demand for flexible OLED panels by Apple. There is strong buzz in the industry that Apple has decided to use OLED screens in the iPhone 7s or iPhone 8, and is cooperating with major display manufacturers, including Samsung Display, JDI, and LG Display. Japanese newspaper Nikkei claims that Apple is looking to switch to OLED as early as next year, and is close to signing contracts with Samsung and LG's display divisions to supply OLED panels. Both are already busy making flexible OLED displays for the Apple Watch.

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posted on 03 Mar 2016, 08:14 1

1. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2630; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


I wonder when Apple would switch to Amoled, will they change iOS colors to mainly blacks? Currently iOS has a lot of white backgrounds and while this improves readability, it would be a battery hog with Amoled

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:00 5

10. sgodsell (Posts: 3051; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Clearly you haven't been following AMOLED technology for quite some time. In fact AMOLED displays are using far less energy period. Even if they show off all white pixels. Also they offer the thinnest profile. You clearly are a clueless rebel.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:08 3

12. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 756; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


he is not clueless. Amoled consume more power while displaying white. Amoled is the future. LCD will die away slow.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:29 16

19. sgodsell (Posts: 3051; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Wrong. With the latest and thinnest OLED panels, they consume less energy compared to IPS displays.

Another thing to remember here is Samsung is not investing in OLED production lines for Apple. As if Samsung gives a $hit whether Apple buys OLED displays from Samsung or not. Samsung is investing in the their own lines for the own displays. As well as all the other oems, and not just for Apple. This is click bait.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 19:43 1

57. cheetah2k (Posts: 1490; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Agreed @ sgodsell. Nek minit people will be thinking that Samsungs Bns of $$ invested in UFS memory tech will be for the iPhone 7 as well.

When will these self centred apple w***es realise its not always about Apple!!!!!

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 22:11 2

60. Ahovking (Posts: 616; Member since: 03 Feb 2015)


Wrong.. Samsung bent over backwards to get the deal to produce Apple A chips.. It got to the point where Samsung was practically giving them to apple for free to win the majority of the order.. Samsung cares is very much about getting this deal.. It would be a huge boost to profit and I bet you Apple will be getting a very nice price cut for choosing Samsung.

As it stands no one can produce enough OLED to supply Apple.. Samsung can barely meet their own demands.. This makes silence if Samsung was to meet their own demand as well as an other OEM.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:27 3

17. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2630; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Yes Amoled made progress and has been more power efficient than before,even with whites. But it doesn't take away the fact that whites uses more than blacks. And I doubt it will be less power hungry than an LCD based screen with mostly whites screens.http://www.anandtech.com/show/9394/analysing-amoled-power-efficiency
Awwww another one trying to attempt to be humorous with an old lame joke. Nice try though.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:34 3

22. marorun (Posts: 2881; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


My ips screen on my moto x play use less power than amoled on the S6 so yeah if they dont make it more dark its will use more power for nothing.

Personally i love Amoled colors and deep black but i hate the durability of those screen.

They dont like Very cold or too much direct sunlight its can eventually damage those

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 10:40 1

39. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2630; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


The S7 amoled is the best screen out there at the moment, one of the reasons I pre-ordered the S7 Edge. Even with an IPS screen at the moment, most of my apps are set to black themes anyway. Easier on the eyes

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 11:20 2

43. mitchytan92 (Posts: 74; Member since: 02 Mar 2015)


How did you tell if the Moto X Play IPS display consumes more power than AMOLED?

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 14:34 2

52. ph00ny (Posts: 1126; Member since: 26 May 2011)


How did you measure this power usage? What kind of gear?
Which screen likes very cold or too much direct sunlight?

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 08:23 19

2. sissy246 (Posts: 532; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


But fanboys say apple doesn't need it that Apple screen is the best without it (lol yeah right) once again Apple will copy, oh I for got it only Samsung that copies, Apple never copies , lol right

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 08:34 2

4. bucky (Posts: 2442; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


you are holding on to very, very old arguments...Who says that? If the technology is finally ready, then im all in.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 08:48 5

7. nctx77 (Posts: 1639; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


How is that Touch ID, glass and metal design, Samsung pay, gold phone, S voice working out for you?

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:55 10

28. Macready (Posts: 811; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


Samsung had a fingerprint scanner on its phones from the same supplier about 7 years before Apple "came up with the idea".
Samsung had gold phones years before Apple, even the typical gold color that Apple first used, had already been seen on the Alpha, in metal too.
Samsung Pay was an evolution of Google Wallet (years older than Apple Pay), just like Google Pay, S Voice was a direct evolution of Vlingo, used by Samsung before Apple introduced Siri on its phones.

Next nonsensical and uninformed argument.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 22:15 1

61. Ahovking (Posts: 616; Member since: 03 Feb 2015)


The original finger print scanner from Samsung was a joke, slow, unreliable.. It was never moved to its more popular devices.

Apple not only got it reliable but it wasn't slow and incorporated it deep into the OS.. Something Samsung again failed to do besides the 5s.

Samsung might of beat Apple to it but they didn't do it as good as Apple did.

Google created Google Wallet and did NOTHING with it, Google was first but wasted the opportunity, Apple Pay came about before Samsung pay

posted on 06 Mar 2016, 13:45

66. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 423; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)


Still, Samsung was earlier than the Aplle copycats on all those features. Apple can't innovate s**t.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 13:05 1

48. tedkord (Posts: 9861; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Gold phone?

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:00 16

9. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1008; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


As much as I am annoyed by those who says Apple is copying blah blah blah
It is also annoying that people always say "Apple waited fot it to become ready/mature" nonsense.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:09 1

13. bucky (Posts: 2442; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


why? Is that not the truth? Its well known Apple doesnt exactly invent stuff but includes things when its ready. Do you not remember those pentil amoled screens?

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:37 6

25. marorun (Posts: 2881; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Nope its not the truth..

Amoled screen cost more but cost are comming down.
So now thats the cost are lower and apple need to add more because otherwise next iphone will fail well they wil use amoled.

Its all a question of keeping margin at high as possible not a question of technology ready... its been ready since years!

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:59

29. nodes (Posts: 681; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)


it's always been a supply issue for Apple.
even for LCD they need three suppliers, and they barely meet the demand.
of course no company would be able to meet Apple's demand if they use AMOLED.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:59 5

30. Macready (Posts: 811; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


Yes, I do. They had lower brightness, but better contrast to make up for that in bright light. Their calibration did not match any of the existing widely used standards such as sRGB, but 3rd party software could fix that on the S1, 6 years ago. Thus that had nothing to do with the tech, everything with choice of calibration. My 5 year old S2 with 5000 SOT has zero burn in and all the benefits were already there: partial display use, much better contrast, much less loss of contrast under an angle, much more comfortable in dark environment due to deep blacks, etc.

In the meantime, hundreds of millions of panels have been sold and are in use, more than 70 million by Samsung last quarter alone. And still, some claim it isn't or hasn't been mature. Comedy of the day. By mature, Apple means cheap enough to keep their high or increase their high margins. No benefit for the customer in holding back progress.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 11:07 2

41. j2001m (Posts: 2755; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Apple Wait to it came cheap to add

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 11:48 1

45. Unordinary (Posts: 996; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)


Guess my friends Note 5 had a special burn-in feature they didn't tell us about :) SIGNMEUP!!!

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 16:31 4

54. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1008; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


I only saw burn-in on display phones on malls, because their screens are on at max brightness for more than half of the day, my 3 year old Galaxy S3 has no such burn-in.
I also owned a Note 4, no burn-in happened.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 17:04

55. Unordinary (Posts: 996; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)


Explains my friends scenario I guess. Dudes on his phone 70% of the time I'm with him, playing CoC lol.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 18:54 2

56. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1008; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Wow, that's very very far from "normal usage", no wonder he got burn-in.
Your friend need to chill LOL

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 19:47 2

58. cheetah2k (Posts: 1490; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Not ready or mature. Cheap, so that they can charge more for their phones (at least a $100 bump I bet in the range) and gain more profit from it.

Soon the base model 16gb iPhone will be well over $1k USD. And apple will use every trick in the book to convince you i5heep that its worth every penny... lolz to you guys

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 22:23

62. Ahovking (Posts: 616; Member since: 03 Feb 2015)


It isn't Nonsense.. In 2013 people were calling things like OLED the future but too expensive and a immature technology with a short lifespan compared to LED.. And with extreme limited supply.. Even today no one would be able to meet Apple demands for OLED if they swooped over today.

Apple waits.. See what works.. And comes out with what works..

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 22:27 2

63. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1008; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Is it still 2013?
OLED already matured years ago.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 08:41 2

6. Wiencon (Posts: 1709; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)


Using same screen technology = copying

#whatatimetobealive

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:10 5

14. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 756; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


can be. Just like whatever samsung is doing to catch up with the competition, regarded as copy of apple. Same argument can go both ways.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:19 2

16. Wiencon (Posts: 1709; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)


So maybe we stop playing this stupid "Who had it first" game?

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:35 4

24. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 756; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


Yes we should bcoz catch up or copy game always benefit us by providing more choices.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:37 6

26. marorun (Posts: 2881; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Agreed.

Still dont explain why iphone using very outdated tech ( beside soc ) are sold at way too high price :)

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 11:10 2

42. j2001m (Posts: 2755; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Hm, the soc, not that good, it's just got direct hardware use, why android CPUs use a VM with no direct hardware support
I.e. The A9 will run way slower using android, that 100%

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 11:36

44. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 756; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


of course it will not be able to perform as smoothly as it is on ios. Android is not made and optimized for one particular Soc. Android is a cross platform OS. iOS is not as versatile, but perfectly optimized for A9 Soc. This is the only reason that we get such high scores from A9 on bench marks. I am sure Android will crush A9 Soc under its burden.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 12:12 1

46. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2630; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


It's more than just OS optimization. While the A9 has less cores and lower cpu frequency, it does have double the superscalar compared to standard ARM socs. This means it can sent twice the amount of instructions to the CPU at the same time. Also the GPU on that soc is very potent compared to other ARM based socs.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 19:49 1

59. cheetah2k (Posts: 1490; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Easy to explain this - cheap HW sold at premium, mutton dressed up as lamb, same same, its all about profits to Apple.

If you haven't worked that out yet, then something wrong

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 15:38

53. xondk (Posts: 1131; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


To be fair it isn't as much copying as Apple going.
"Hey Samsung, that's some nice screens you got there can I have some?"

Which only makes the uproar about how Apple will do it 'better' then everyone else so sadly silly.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 08:31 2

3. khalid123 (Posts: 29; Member since: 27 Feb 2016)


both always copies nokia

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 08:35 4

5. bucky (Posts: 2442; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


You are right. But Nokia would have been better to do some of their own copying as well.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:33 1

21. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 756; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


Nokia was a true innovator at hardware front specially camera, but they were very poor in their choice of OS. And this poor decision making about software drowned them. Software is the most important thing which defines the user experience.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 08:48 5

8. Tarox (Posts: 101; Member since: 17 Feb 2015)


Why has it to be for Apple?

Maybe they know how their own development is going on and expect to gain marketshare in the highend segment from people that have currently iphone, but are slowly realizisng that devices like the s7 edge are beating their apple device in every single point.
And at some points by quite a margin.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:01 1

11. bucky (Posts: 2442; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


I think people have been going the other way. If there is one area apple controls, its the high end market. Samsung is getting ravaged by the low end market.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:30 2

20. Tarox (Posts: 101; Member since: 17 Feb 2015)


you should write "high PRICE market". Apple is not competing at all on the "high end market", but they are currently the clear leader in the high price market.
However, humanity is not completely dumb and after some years they start to compare products.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 10:01 1

31. nodes (Posts: 681; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)


then what is high end?

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:12 2

15. abdoualgeria (Posts: 295; Member since: 27 Jul 2015)


iphone 7s with galaxy s7 displayy *_* take myyy moneyyy

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 10:02 3

32. yoosufmuneer (Posts: 1456; Member since: 14 Feb 2015)


Guys Lets Kickstart a new keyboard for him

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:28 3

18. Trakker (Posts: 283; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


I remember the good old days when companies worked together to advance tech and was fully expected that one company takes an idea and improves on it.
But then came Apple patent trolling it's way into the smartphone market and it's worshippers acting like Apple created everything and no one is allowed to copy anything.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 10:55

40. rishav20193 (Posts: 174; Member since: 18 Jul 2015)


more or less every tech (software features included) is copied. tech used by one company is used by some other company under some other name & in next few years only.......so, more or less all of them copy each other & bring featurs of one to another

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 12:43 2

47. Trakker (Posts: 283; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


The problem is with patent licensing fees where Apple uses the corrupt patent office and courts(Judge Lucy Koh) to make sure they profit from everything.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:34

23. Marduch (Posts: 46; Member since: 04 Feb 2015)


I don´t believe Apple could implement OLED wich loses it´s brightness and colorfullness after imaging of 1000 hours of blue color and 10 000 hours of green color. Before the OLED lifetime will be prolonged markedly, Apple will not use it IMO.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 09:52 5

27. abdoualgeria (Posts: 295; Member since: 27 Jul 2015)


i dont get your nonesense !!!

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 10:21

36. Marduch (Posts: 46; Member since: 04 Feb 2015)


I can see nearly every Samsung "switched on" phone in the shop with the burnt-out objects (icons or status bar) on the display (so called "ghosts") after one or two months of it´s being switched-on in shop.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 10:25 2

37. Macready (Posts: 811; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


Which tells you exactly nothing about normal use, because no phone will ever be running at max brightness with 9-12 or more hours SOT of static images per day....

Even the most broad google search gives about 500k hits at best with over half a billion panels in use...

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 14:16

50. Romantico3pe (Posts: 59; Member since: 14 Sep 2015)


Amoled right now is a no go until they make it non organic

posted on 06 Mar 2016, 13:49

67. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 423; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)


Then it wouldn't be amOled anymore as the O stands for organic. Nice joke there!

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 14:17

51. Romantico3pe (Posts: 59; Member since: 14 Sep 2015)


Even at low brightness using it e or 4 houra a day it will burn my s6 did while using navigation so amoled is crap right now

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