More details on Facebook integration in iOS 6
1. joey18 posted on 04 Jun 2012, 22:24 4 9
Why apple is one step behind android sometime i miss my droid x
3. QinEmpire posted on 05 Jun 2012, 00:20 4 4
Easy, Google is aiming for the first so fandroids like you think that they have been innovating but in fact Apple have been perfecting it first.
Android is messy
5. ilia1986 posted on 05 Jun 2012, 00:59 2 5
So you would rather do 1 - 2 things insanely well rather than do 40 things really well?
Android is no longer messy. At least not Android 4.0. And it is far more capable. Yes, it doesn't have Steve Jobs arguing over how much gloss should every button have in the settings menu, but it's still more than aesthetically pleasing.
When you go to a restaurant - an expensive restaurant - you'd rather have your entire meal ready within the hour, rather than having to wait 9 hours just for the first course because the cook was arguing with the manager how many bread crumbs should there be on your schnitzel.
Attention to details is fine - as long as it does not prevent other features from being integrated into the product.
9. QinEmpire posted on 05 Jun 2012, 08:49 1 0
So.. Would you serve a half cooked meat instead of the full dish? Its not a matter of waiting 9 hours for first course when you can pre-prepare it beforehand well.
10. MichaelHeller posted on 05 Jun 2012, 09:10 2 0
I've never had any issue with the Android share menu. There are certainly a number of half-cooked features in Android (People app!), but the share menu is one of the best. Any app can hook in, and suddenly have integration throughout the system to share from anywhere. The fact that Apple is slowly integrating one service at a time to its share menu is a bit ridiculous to me. There's nothing to perfect, just put in the options.
11. ilia1986 posted on 05 Jun 2012, 10:36 1 1
Thing is - Android IS the full dish. All served within reasonable time and with much more than reasonable quality. iOS on the other hand is - as I said - just the first course - which took 9 hours to make. And no - you can't "pre-prepare" it, because the market is always moving forward.
Innovation is not playing catch-up in terms of features on your product, regardless of how well polished it's existing features are. There is always a balance between quality and capability. People look on both as very important. You can't design a family car which only has 1 seat - regardless how much you glorify and polish that single seat to perfection.
I've been reading the Steve Jobs biography - and I've come to understand why Apple does the things they do. However they are wrong - software was NOT meant to be completely integrated with the hardware - because the latter is limited - while the former is not. It's like limiting human beings to only do things they are immediately capable of doing - without using the unlimited potential of their brain. It's just dumb and idiotic.
2. simplyj posted on 05 Jun 2012, 00:18 6 6
It's so cute that iOS is catching up to Windows Phone.
4. QinEmpire posted on 05 Jun 2012, 00:21 3 5
Yeah along with Google wholesale copying Metro turning it into Holo..
When is the last time they ever innovate?
8. tward291 posted on 05 Jun 2012, 08:20 1 0
you cant beat windows phone people hub. The Linkedin, facebook, twitter integration is unmatched by any os especially the facebook integration. with a few more features you wouldnt even need the app. Dame near dont need it now.
in the future i would love to see Google + integration as well along with youtube but i doubt this will happen because google is sucking major mokey dong right now.
7. facelessbelief posted on 05 Jun 2012, 06:47 0 1
A windows troll?!?! ^.^ They got released in the wild! Its Trollarama!
12. Dj21o posted on 05 Jun 2012, 12:33 1 0
I like Android and what not, but it is messy. It isn't as appealing as the iPhone. The I phone's PHONE is always the most recognizable out of any phone that is out, except for the note because it is a phablet lol. But, Android needs to make a solid base like iOS and stick to it. One family member of mine has the 3gs and still has the newest firmwire out. Android needs to be pure Google, bare bones, and needs serious OS management. To the gentleman up top who said that "would you rather do a couple of things insanely well, or everything very well?". Well, I would rather have NY processing power towards something I am using. Not to mention the iPhone has a FANTASTIC notification system. Sure, you can download other apps for pop ups and turning your screen on, but that is completely regenerated in iOS. Most of the apps (if not all) use this notification system to let you know when it is your turn playing a game, messages (without bothering you completely), and even accessing your status bar in a full screen game. Little things make a difference, and that is why I decided to go to an iPhone. I want my phone to revolve around me. I don't want to have to toggle my data, gps and my wifi when I need it. This should do it all for me. After all, it is a "smartphone".
13. ilia1986 posted on 05 Jun 2012, 12:53 0 1
Well hello there, kind sir!
First of all let me start by saying a not-so-commonly known fact - everything - EVERYTHING - the iPhone can do - Android can do as well. Yes, even your glorious notification system (which only came to exist since the end of 2011 while it existed on Android from 2008).
Now having that little issue out of the way, I shall continue with saying that "appeal" - is something that is entirely subjective. You may find the iPhone more appealing. That's fine. Android allows you to make your device look exactly like the iPhone - using a special launcher and\or custom Rom. Now thing is - people often get tired from having only one single UI (user interface) on something as personal as their phone. Android allows you to have ANY user interface you can imagine. Dozens of custom launchers, hundreds of themes, and millions of little tweaks you can make - to make an Android phone - your phone - just the way you like it.
Secondly, Android is not messy. Every manufacturer gets to tweak the user interface to his liking. If you prefer the pure google experience - you can always get a Nexus device - or - flash a pure custom Rom. Furthermore, Google doesn't "manage" which phone gets which Android version. The manufacturer does. But that's officially. Unofficially, potentially EVERY ANDROID PHONE CAN RUN EVERY VERSION OF ANDROID. How well it will run? That depends on the phone. In a lot of cases - the XDA developers community has released custom Roms of newer Android versions for phones which didn't officially get these new Android versions - and the phones handled them really really well.
So that means - that unlike Apple which restricts you from obtaining a newer version of it's OS - just because (iPhone 2G and iPhone 3G have the exact same hardware - yet the former is stuck on version 3.1.3 while the latter is on version 4.2.1) - Google doesn't restrict Android versions to specific phone models.
Finally - you say that you don't want to toggle your data, gps, wifi whatever manually - and you want your phone to do it for you. Thing is - the iPhone doesn't do it for you either. Android just provides you with a million of infinitely more efficient ways to access your settings more quickly and easily.
In conclusion - in light of saying all that, kind Sir, I believe you might have been disillusioned by Apple. But now you know the truth. May the truth always prevail. Good day to you sir!
14. Dj21o posted on 05 Jun 2012, 13:23 1 0
In all honesty, I don't agree at all.
I am on my fourth Android phone, thinking that each one would be better than the next, I was pretty wrong. I think the notification system on Android isn't that good. You get a notification at the top of the screen that is impossible to reach unless you exit the application and/or go to the home screen, and it doesn't even turn your screen on for you (I am picky). That's not very efficient. Or when I want to know if it is my turn playing words with friends or any of those types of games, I don't like waiting for people days on end, constantly going into the app and checking.
You can refer to someone else as being "disillusioned" because I am very educated on what skins/themes the manufacturers put on their phones. I also know those updates come in their own "sweet ass time". I usually don't wait for those, because most of the time I root my device and get something better. But, I have waited over 4-5 months to get ICS on my E4GT before I caved it.
I never even said, also, that my iPhone can do more than your Android, I am saying it is more tech friendly by doing tasks that shouldn't require the user to do (toggling).
Rooting Android phones are IDENTICAL to installing Cydia on the iPhone. I can access all of my files, I can download apps/games for free, ad blockers, music, etc. I just have a base that I prefer that is similar to MIUI (I am assuming you have root). As far as XDA goes, I don't like going there because there are probably hundreds of developers that are subjected to different styles of phones. A certain phone could have what you want, but the developer isn't on that particular device. With the iPhone, there are a ton of developers that work together to get it done. Which is why most of the time you don't have to wait for drivers and custom kernels to be released from manufacturers. That is a pain in the ass as well. I am still waiting for source to drop on my E4GT so we can get a solid base going.
I am very aware of everything. ;)
15. networkdood posted on 05 Jun 2012, 13:35 0 0
except when you root or jailbreak your iphone, it starts to get bogged down with all of the extras, unlike android, as when you root the phone and get an excellent custom rom, the thing flies faster than it did out of the box - see DROID RAZR.....
18. Dj21o posted on 05 Jun 2012, 13:51 0 0
I haven't jail broken the iPhone yet, but if I see there is a slowdown (never heard of that from everyone that has an iPhone), then I will put it back to stock. I know the issue does exist on the Android phones, just because of the kernels they use are unstable sometimes. I'll look into it I guess. I like hacking everything I buy no matter what it is lol.
17. networkdood posted on 05 Jun 2012, 13:40 0 0
As for the tons of choices on XDA - most ROMs allow you to switch back and forth with a simple data wipe, which you would do after you use TiBu. You do not have to worry about all of the choices it offers, just know that you have a CHOICE. I usually stick with FUSION for my captivate, and AXIOM for my DROID RAZR and mod it on my own.
19. Dj21o posted on 05 Jun 2012, 15:41 0 0
Upgrading a ROM with a newer version, yes. Completely changing ROMs, no. You need to wipe cache and dalvik before doing that. Always a complete wipe when changing ROMs to avoid conflicts. I am just saying that iOS has the base I love, but just adding my own tweaks will do. I believe iOS has an app that is similar to Titanium Backup, but I know its not called that. I've seen it in the forums, but can't pull it from the top of my head. I'm excited to just try something new. If I don't like Cydia and what not I probably go back to an Android when I have an upgrade in a year or so.
16. networkdood posted on 05 Jun 2012, 13:38 0 0
Honestly, I can see someone buying a phone due to facebook integration, but if you need facebook that badly, then you have other issues there - if I want facebook on my phone, then I will download it, and then the integration will begin.