Lumia 1020 and iPhone 5s get compared with DSLRs, Nokia's camera deemed years ahead of the iPhone
Step into candlelight, and the gap between phones and DSLRs widens and becomes more a matter of taste, pivoting around your preferred tradeoff between speckly noise and smeary noise reduction. From our ad-hoc panel of 15 non-photographers, the iPhone trails the DSLRs by about 10 years, and the Nokia about 8.
Splitting the difference between candlelight and daylight, around 6 years of technology has made up for the massive difference in the size of the lenses and sensors between the best phone and the $2,000 DSLRs.
I was stunned.
This isn’t saying that the Nokia is a better camera than a 2007 Canon EOS 40D. It’s not. Detail makes up just a tiny fraction of the goodness of a camera, and none of what makes it a pleasure to use. The Nokia is much slower, can’t focus on moving targets, can’t easily defocus part of the picture, can’t change the perspective and feel of pictures by zooming or changing lenses, and can’t capture the same range of brightness in one shot that the latest SLRs can. Yet.
The curious thing about this list is that everything on it except one — changing lenses — can be fixed with faster processing. The iPhones, Galaxies and LGs have shown it already. And we know that faster processing is inevitable. The physical design of SLRs gave them a huge headstart over phones for both picture quality and usability, but advances in on-board processing are now quickly eroding that lead.
DSLRs aren’t standing still — they’re improving all the time too. But are they improving fast enough?
1. pureviewuser (Posts: 202; Member since: 11 Nov 2012)
Nokia is awesome in camera department now needs to catch up in the other areas of a smartphone and it will be King again.Come on NOKIA!!!!
13. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2791; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Wow great! Yes you are absolutely right, Nokia's Cameras are always great and most of the time very ahead of others especially 1020 / 1520. Koreans are close too even Apple but not as good as Nokia.
Hey Daniel, you messed up li'l bit with DSLR - DLSR??? ;)
Anyways, nice article and I like your articles too.
54. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 909; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
Its not as much as Nokia and the camera as it is the Calr Zeiss lens. The Carl Zeiss lens is what makes th Nokia camera out shine the rest. One of the beat lens ever made for a camera is Carl Zeiss.
55. Snoobab (Posts: 174; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Let's not forget the sensor technology and image processing algorithims. That's all Nokia.
Agreed though, Nokia+Zeiss make an unbeatable mobile imaging combo.
2. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Hmm not years ahead of iPhone. but just a year ahead of iPhone. Apple will "take" (i am not saying steal) everything from there as usual and then call it innovation of 2014 ...
56. Snoobab (Posts: 174; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Correction: Yes, YEARS ahead of the iPhone imaging :) Just look at the photo comparisons again.
3. Gaurav008 (Posts: 279; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Obviously. Nokia's cameras have always been industry leading. Respect. _/\_
5. maverick786us (Posts: 127; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
God knows what the future holds, once Nokia's phone division is purchased by MS
11. alterecho (Posts: 1091; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
After MS acquires it, You will not to connect your phone to the internet once a day, to use it.
6. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
It may be because of lumia has a fracking bump on the back. Iphone also takes pictures way faster. Lumia 1020 is a cameraphone and should not be compared to phones like Iphone 5s, lumia 1020 is in a league of its own.
7. sergiobr (Posts: 429; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
There´s no competition (by while) with Nokia phones, but there´s a LOT to do in OIS. I allways carried my Nokia 808 with me. Now just with my Note 3 I can take breathless photos (camera Pro in low light). Bring Pureview to Android and Nokia rules the world !
8. pureviewuser (Posts: 202; Member since: 11 Nov 2012)
Yes but it's behind iPhone and Samsung in other areas
17. whysoserious (Posts: 317; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
A good start is the number of apps available.
18. Beijendorf (Posts: 324; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Oh great, the App-argument again. That argument became obsolete a little while, and is also irrelevant to the hardware.
38. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
"Restrictions" should be slightly more "Open"
37. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
It still needs "Notifications" able to download via "Browser"
44. elitewolverine (Posts: 1927; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Notifications? What the heck do you think live tiles are for. I have over 30 tiles pined, 15 at first glance.
How many programs in your phone that you use on a daily basis that require notifications? 10 20 50 102? Please its old and only being put into 8.1 for people like you nothing more.
Download via browser...download what? UCBrowser can.
47. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
Scrolling through the whole screen, swiping on the next page, looking up and down, left and right is really annoying. iOs has it, so does Android. It's much convinient.
50. elitewolverine (Posts: 1927; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
again, you failed to answer the question, only presented how 'difficult' it is to look at a screen.
What apps require attention of notifications that you use everyday, that total more than 20? (amount i can put on my small screen without having to scroll anywhere)
And no scrolling down is the equivalent as pulling down a notification window, requires the same clicks, but instead of me switching to a different view for information i have my original view.
Swipping right is for your app list, hitting the letter lets me filter or search for an app. Same thing in droid when you go to installed app list and its in a grid hidden by 5 pages of info...
39. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
Oh really, my father has an Iphone and there are a lot of apps on his Iphone that do not exist on any other platform, not even android. There are a lot of apps missing in wp store right now.
10. pureviewuser (Posts: 202; Member since: 11 Nov 2012)
Apps screen resolution amongst other things
14. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 772; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)
I'd still get the Nokia Lumia 1520 if I needed a phone with a good camera
16. power_x (Posts: 238; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
Nothing new here , we all know that Nokia is the undisputed king in mobile photography
If they continue like this for the next 3 or 5 years , I think that Nokia will fully take on DSLR's
19. aranauser (Posts: 58; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
which departments they need to improve.please have some brains.please be specific.
1.S800 is 'not enough'?
2.2GB RAM 'not enough'?
3.1080p 'not enough'?
4.3000+mAh 'not enough'?
5.haac speakers 'not enough'?
6.moden UI 'not enough'?
7.nokia music 'not enough'?
8.here maps 'not enough'?
APPS? no wp user has complained that in recent days.only dumb ifans droidfans keep saying that.infact PA has written article about wp apps few days back
21. papss (unregistered)
I agree 100%. Only fandroids complain about apps on WP. Again I don't need 50 million apps to be happy. Anyone say otherwise lives a pathetic life and I feel sorry for them. Some people prefer wp8 ( like myself). I came from android, then went to wp8 for a while,went back to android (note 3, G2) and now back to wp8 (1520) and frankly the UI on wp8 for me is a way better fit.
22. _Bone_ (Posts: 2137; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
The Lumia 1020 doesn't have
The Lumia 1520 doesn't have
the 41MP DSLR-like camera
So here's an improvement with brains - how about making ONE Nokia device out of these two?
And you know what, make it three, how about those specs, that sensor and Android KitKat? :P
Hey, I'm just stating my feelings, don't kill the Messenger. Wait, Microsoft already did.
24. WindowsiDroid (Posts: 114; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)
We must wait until 2016 before that happen.
27. Ikechukwu (Posts: 147; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)
Tell me the phone manufacturer you like and I'll bring up a similar list like this one. It's a simple strategy my friend
28. aranauser (Posts: 58; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Why dont you read through hatred comments at top which is about NOKIA and not L1020(shoudve used your brains here i suggest)
If you are really a member of PA you shouldve known by this time that a successor to L1020 is in pipeline with s805,1080p,....
57. DFranch (Posts: 140; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
I'm pretty sure the 1020 has 2GB ram.
I'm sure an updated phone with higher specs and the 41MP sensor is forthcoming. I doubt it'll take 2 more years for it to arrive. Although a 20MP camera is enough for me.
Microsoft owns nokia Lumia now. Android is never going to be on it. Please for the love of god just accept it and move on.
23. shreyas.s666 (Posts: 80; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
Because this is iphonearena anf googlearena
40. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
No usb mass storage
No system file manager
I haven't used a WP. Wp Os seems to look pure and appear organized. The problem also is i think, is people are living in fast paced world, and they want to see it all at once. Android's biggest seller is thier cute but straight-to-the-point notification tab and widgets, an option to make widgets out of anything to digest more info at once, customise the look and feel like me.
41. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
You can do only what i let you do.
You can do it, but do it my way
You can do it the way you want to
So who is providing you the best user experience.....?
45. elitewolverine (Posts: 1927; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
No bluetooth? ummm seriously?
USB mass storage? every hooked it up to a pc? I can see all the files that matter there.
File manager...for what? 3 things go into a phone for 99% users, pictures videos songs, (documents for office are handled by office). They usually keep them in the same place anyways. I can hook it up to a pc if i absolutely have to move files around. While i know it would be 'nice' it in no way hampers what a person can do on the phone. I can do everything on my 925 that i could on my s4 for what i use the phone for.
25. fireblade (Posts: 714; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
The best cameraphone. Too bad it's WP, light years behind android
46. elitewolverine (Posts: 1927; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
yes light years cause all it does is make phone calls, i can't even set a timer as an alarm clock for my phone wtf, flip phones have that...eyeroll
please light years is such an overstatement.
49. JerryTime (Posts: 468; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)
What low end no name Android phone are you using?!
51. elitewolverine (Posts: 1927; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Jerry I work with these phones everyday, there is nothing I sit back on a droid and go 'damn' this is a function that is required on every phone. Nor do our users that I deal with on a daily basis require. Notice 'require' something.
Is this saying everyone needs are met with my analysis? Certainly not.
I currently own wp8, 8x and 925 and 521, I have owned a s3, s4 and own a note 3.
Again other than small things, which I personally do not qualify as light years, light years is my old Samsun t159 vs a note 3.
I use the note 3 for it's screen size at the moment, its a great phone, rarely lags, thankfully I did not have problems like I see on others having. Been rock solid. But I prefer wp8.
I never use file manager, no need to. Different ringtone volumes? Sure I guess, it is not a light years need for me.
What I do use a lot is office notes, excel and word. A lot on my 8x and 925. Because I have 365 my note 3 also just recently got Office Mobile.
Again, light years is such an overstatement. I would consider myself a power user that isn't wowed by backgrounds, file manager (has not hampered torrent files or other files on my wp8's), or notifications. I prefer live tiles than having to constantly pull down notifications bar. I do not like having to go through 4 android menus to select a network operator vs 3 clicks on my wp8. I do not like the stylus, for me it's useless, but im 'old' I guess. I use it on larger tabs but meh nothing bind blowing for me. I could go on but meh.
52. Meego (Posts: 8; Member since: 11 Nov 2013)
Simply stated. Just recently picked up a wp8 and its awesome! Still miss my meego though. Nah its still in my hands and android can't even touch this despite its age. Since it was left for dead! Also have and android and seriously the UI looks outdated like what symbian use to be, (oh yah) android copied everything from symbian!
53. Meego (Posts: 8; Member since: 11 Nov 2013)
Simply stated. Just recently picked up a wp8 and its awesome! Still miss my meego though. Nah its still in my hands and android can't even touch this despite its age. Since it was left for dead! Also have an android and seriously the UI looks outdated like what symbian use to be, (oh yah) android copied everything from symbian!
58. jpd514 (Posts: 38; Member since: 08 Nov 2013)
I would say: Apple copy from Nokia and after, Android copy from Nokia too. Just for being chronologically exact.