FCC gets visit from the HTC Vigor with support for Verizon's LTE network
reported, this model could be one of the first from HTC to offer technology from the partnership between the Taiwan based handset manufacturer and Beats by Dr. Dre.
We could see this beast launched by Verizon early next month with October 6th a possible date. Speculation is that the HTC Vigor will be priced between $250 and $300 after a signed two-year contract.
source: FCC via Engadget
1. damnimbroke (unregistered)
with this economy, how are the prices of phones going up? $200 used to be the norm, now $250-300? Verizon did away with it's $30-100 discount every 2 years claiming that the handsets would just be priced lower. So much for that!
3. mOO (unregistered)
Phones do have a lot more stuff in them now. They are basically mini computers.
12. WM6.5Sucks (Posts: 42; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
If thats the case I hope we do go into a greater depression so I can get A samsung Galaxy series phone with a 2.0GHZ quad core exynos processor, 18MP back camera, 5MP front camera 125GB of RAM, 76GB of internal memory, LTE capable, AND a super amoled HD+....... .for free! :D
22. bossmt_2 (Posts: 409; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
Actually 200 was only the norm for a relatively short period in time. Like 4 years basically. It used to be smartphones were very expensive. The Treo 700P was 400 bucks for Verizon. After the iPhone the price for devices dropped a healthy amount but establishing high end devices for under 200 didn't really happen all that long ago. Really not until the Storm for Verizon did they launch a highend smartphone for 200 bucks. I think the storm even at launch wasn't 199.99 though I think it was 220. Android set the tone, but LTE devices are gonna be more expensive for some time, Verizon needs to make back the money it invested in building the network.
23. bubba78 (Posts: 54; Member since: 23 May 2011)
Funny thing is it has nothing to do with them being like mini computers, all of the high end 4G phones are still $199 or less on Sprint and AT&T. Verizon is only charging that much because they can. You can always get them cheaper on amazon.
24. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
What "4G" technology does AT&T currently use? How about Sprint? The LTE radio's that are in Verizon 4G smartphones is MUCH more expensive than "4G" radios like HSPA+ and WiMax.
Additionally, it was a mere 3 years ago or less in which phones like the the Samsung i760, the older Palms, etc cost $400 or more. $299.99 for a phone that has lightning fast internet capabilities (faster than your home internet in terms of upload speeds, and possibly even download speeds). Not to mention the dual core technology, HD screen technology, etc. I remember less than 4 years ago, the LG Voyager (a predecessor to the env touch) was going for $400 - $100 mail in rebate. It was the first HTML feature phone on Verizon, and in comparison to the LTE smartphones of today, garbage.
34. Goldeneye (Posts: 344; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
@ Beatlesfan I pretty much agree with what you said, but VZ is without a doubt "taxing" their LTE devices, if you check their retail prices for these devices the difference is not $100 compared to 3G handsets, they're charging a premium for a true 4G service "hidden" in the device price, it'll be interesting to see what kind of pricing ATT and Sprint will give to LTE handsets
36. PotDragon (banned) (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Jul 2011)
My home comp is quad core...dual I gig video cards in SLI mode.... 12 gigs of RAM...on a 33 meg cable line.
My laptop is an Alienware Area 51. Dual core...2 gig video...8 gigs RAM.
No phone can touch my upload or download speeds. Just because you cannot afford a decent home comp...dont think the rest of the world is as stupid & broke as you .
39. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
Is your home by any chance a bridge? Troll
40. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
I didn't say the phone had better specs than a computer I said the data speeds are possibly faster than that of a landbased internet service. I guarantee you don't get 5-7 (or faster) mbps upload speed you imbecile.
41. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
you're the stupid one. even if you have some pretty ballin' Internet speeds either straight wired or at least through a Wireless-N adapter and a good, compatible Router all of those things you mentioned are still irrelevant to how good your download/upload speeds are. i'm in the 30mps range on the download and around 5mps (using some cloud services) on the upload at my home. i pay pretty good for those speeds and LTE is still knocking on my door. LTE upload speeds kill my at-home upload speeds a lot of the time.
2. whats (unregistered)
Peter, this is what is known as a high end phone. This phone sounds interesting to me. I would like to know the rest of the specs. Perhaps an official announcement is coming in NYC in a few weeks.
37. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
This is a high end phone yes, so is the Wave 3.
4. BobbyTaba (Posts: 316; Member since: 11 Aug 2010)
The iPhone 16gb costs more than every lte Android phones retail price so why is the iPhone only 199 while lte Android phone is 299
17. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 110; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
But iphone was made over a year ago these phones are phones of the future with latest tech possible
25. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
Simply answered: because Apple decides to inflate the retail price of their phones more than any LTE phone.
28. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Also the 32 GB iPhone is $300, while the Bionic with 16 GB internal + 16 GB SD card included is...$300.
And that's for LAST year's iPhone.
5. Heatfan316 (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
I'm sorry I have to say this just shut up.
6. Heatfan316 (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
The Vigor is going to be the s**t, I tried the Bionic today and that phone is fast, the fastest I've ever used, 31mbps fast just imagine what the Vigor is going to do with that 1.5 ghz dual-core under the hood
9. narley (Posts: 357; Member since: 14 May 2009)
i'm sorry i have to say this....
but the processor has nothing to do with network speeds.
...just shut up.
10. Mark W. (unregistered)
But it does have to do with how quickly the phones browser will render the website being downloaded. The processor in questions does load pages faster!
11. Heatfan316 (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
@ narley I think I know that you dullard I'm just saying the Vigor will run a lot faster with that same data speed now tell your mom I said bitch shut the f**k up
13. vantenkiest (Posts: 308; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)
I tried the bionic till i got kicked out of the verizon store.. it lagged like s**t.. i power cycled the phone cleared the startup services... and it still was pretty slow.. i put launcher pro (its what i use on most of my android devices for the backup service on there so i dont need to spend a lot of time customizing) and it still was very slow.. I got 3 insuffcient storage errors while on the browser not sure why or how as market was disabled.
I really do hope that this was just that one device but even the review unit i had for a few days wasnt that impressive... in terms of power of the device this wont compete against the i5... not with home screens lagging that much or the glitches this one seems to have..
I am looking forward to trying the vigor or prime... who knows i might jump the big red ship at this rate...
21. really (unregistered)
Please jump..... please please...... one should not post such obvious lies .
7. Samk18 (unregistered)
well the good thing about prices for data being so high i dont think people will ever adopt to 4g as much as they did with 3g. i will never pay anything over $60 for serive that includes talk, text, and data thats just ridiculous.
and now they want to start charging $300 for a phone no thanks. i would love to have this phone but the plan on verizon is just way too much. $90 is their cheapest plan with talk,text, and data and thats without other fees and taxes included.
26. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
When, where, and on what carrier have you EVER paid less than $60 for voice, text AND data? The absolute cheapest you could pay on Verizon with the minimum voice plan, minimum text plan, and $30 data plan is $75 before taxes. The plans haven't changed for years other than going from $45 data plan to $30. Yes, they have tiered data now, but at the same price as unlimited was. Price hasn't changed.
14. vantenkiest (Posts: 308; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)
i agree although i dont ever really use the ui overlays that come with it.. in my experience launcher pro is pretty decent and is pretty damn fast.. same with adw.. i just prefer LP .. but i would pick sense over blur anyday
16. cappy718 (Posts: 24; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)
The bionic is my first moto phone since the days of flip phones. That moto sucked and no it wasnt the razer. But anyhow, I'm love this thing, especially coming from a LG Ally. I worry about the snapdragon's actual speed, hence why I jumped on the TI OMAP. I played with the phone for a while and enjoyed it. Only disappointment so far was the 16GB onboard advertised...really isnt...it's 8GB.
18. yeayea (unregistered)
only one down fall of this phone is that its not a global world phone. : X.
i am guessing the droid prime probably will be or the galaxy prime i should say.... right?
27. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
probably not. It would have to either have a new type of sim technology or 2 sim card slots in order to function as a world phone.
19. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
there's not really anything about the Vigor i can see that makes it absolutely superior to the Bionic which is available now. an evenly clocked OMAP4430 in the Bionic will be more powerful than the S3 variant the Vigor will have and the Bionic will probably have better battery life unless the Vigor does have an MSM8960 like i think it does but whether or not the 28nm building process it uses will really bury the power consumption of an HD screen enough remains to be seen and screen clarity is still just fine on the Bionic so whatever man and then there's also Webtop which i don't know about you guys but it sure appeals to me being someone that travels a little more than just on occasion and then there's also Sense which i realize some of you guys really stand by but i know i'm not the only one that thinks Sense is spreading more than it should over the simpler Android experience. i think Beats Audio will be pretty cool though and i will be a little jealous about that so remember that if you get a Vigor and i start comparing it with my Bionic for whatever reason or the other you can just say "well mine has Beats Audio so suck it!" and i'll be like "aw...sad face. i want that."
29. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I don't care if the HD screen eats up a couple hours of battery. It'll be much easier on the eyes than the PenTile Bionic. I hate to say this, but owning a Samsung Rogue and having played with an iPhone 4, I can't go back to a 200 ppi screen. (The Bionic is theoretically 256 ppi, but since there are only 2 subpixels per pixel, it's effectively closer to 200 ppi.)
Even if it's only qHD, the Vigor will look far better than the Bionic. I don't care about Quadrant scores, I just want a vibrant screen, a smooth interface and decent battery life.
31. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
you get used to Pentile. it's not as bad as people who've only used the phone for a couple of days says it is besides it's still really clear. unless it's SA+ i don't see why screen technology matters so much now that we've got qHD. the processing power and battery efficiency is what really matters. i'd understand if we were talking about a year ago and we were comparing phones with HVGA resolution to WVGA or something but today screen technology is really clear enough for the naked eye.
32. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I think PenTile has its place as a way of getting very high pixel densities screens - my Rogue, for example, is WVGA but because the screen is so small (3.1"), I can't see the subpixels without magnification. Same goes for the upcoming SAMOLED HD - it'll be stunning even though it's PenTile. But I looked at the 4" Galaxy S line and I could tell something was wrong. It looked pixelated even though it shouldn't be. Yes, maybe you "get used to it" but to my naked eye, it isn't clear enough. I might get used to the 4" Droid 3 screen, but the qHD on the Bionic and X2 is noticeably worse than WVGA LCD. It's a gimmick. Moto wanted to promote it as qHD but they didn't want to pay a price or power penalty, so they went with half-assed Pentile RBGW.
Look at a Sensation or Evo 3D side by side with an X2 or Bionic. There's definitely a difference.
33. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
yeah, even i'll tell you the Sensation's screen looks better than that on the Bionic but it doesn't take away that the Bionic's looks just fine being that it's cutting down power consumption. if you can really see good enough to notice it's clarity then what's the big deal? why does it matter so much? sure you can go into depth about it but it's not the same as a processor or a UI, it's what just you're looking at. i don't believe in being so picky about the screen to compromise the phone's performance for it.
42. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I guess I'm just superficial then. I'll wait for the Vigor even if it "only" has a qHD S-LCD screen.
I just hope HTC has learned a few things and the battery life holds up better than the Tbolt.
20. my eyes!!!! (unregistered)
30. yeayea (unregistered)
so you dont think the prime will be a global world phone either?
38. lubba (Posts: 1309; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Don't need to worry about price. Android phones loose value fast. Within a month or two, you can get them $99 or less.
43. jimmylogan (unregistered)
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