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10 mighty annoying things that manufacturers do (or don't do) and piss us off, part 1

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10 mighty annoying things that manufacturers do (or don't do) and piss us off, part 1
Being a tech reviewer has its perks. You're constantly surrounded with what are considered very desirable devices, and new ones keep on coming all the time. Big ones and small ones, fancy or unattractive, powerful or impotent, we've seen most of them all. Many of those are great, or at least more than acceptable, and we make sure to share that insight with you. Others, however... not so much.

Indeed, when your 9 to 5 is mostly about getting to know the ups and downs of a never-ending stream of devices, you tend to retain some nasty experiences. Those are usually things that manufacturers either choose to do or not to do, and, honestly, those sometimes piss us off, and we know many of you are in the same boat. Certainly, a big portion of you have had devices that they've been on the cusp of buying, before realizing something rather essential (subjectively, at least) is missing or just isn't the way you'd like it to be.

So we sat down and went on a trip through memory lane, in an attempt to come up with a mostly objective list of Do's and Don'ts for manufacturers going forward. Obviously, a very big part of the entries on the list can't be considered deal breakers on their own, but it's fair to say that most of them pissed at least a bunch of tech reviewers and consumers off.

Arranged in no specific order.

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posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:07 15

1. iluvsonynokia (Posts: 142; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)


+1 for 8

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:29 6

15. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2869; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


Also #7, the statement is funny. "Liquid S2 feels like something that can be quickly re-purposed for other uses, like throwing it at an assailant in an act of self-defense, and putting him in the hospital." LOL...

Nice article Chris and this sequel idea is very nice, not like to long to read articles.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:32 1

32. Ashoaib (Posts: 2436; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


yeah quite right, liquid s2 is pretty heavy, however, other than this it is a beautiful, solid and sturdy phone... every phone must have a micro sd, it should be a standard... well, chris p always bring interesting articles

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 07:05 1

37. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1475; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


I have to be the odd ball here, I love my Z2 and I do love its weight as well. I feel like I can better handle it in my hands. That's same way I choose my gaming mouse as well.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 08:10 2

39. Chris.P (Posts: 309; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)


There are about 70 grams worth of difference between the Z2 and the S2, though.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 08:39

44. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1475; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


So that's Z2 to gain about half of its weight? I can live with that. I feel safer holding a heavier phone anyway. I always feel like I would drop my Nexus 4 but Z2 was never the case when I'm holding it.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 18:16

58. JC557 (Posts: 1165; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


I'm the same way, I kinda like a somewhat weighty phone in my hands but not brick heavy like smartphones of years past.

posted on 28 Aug 2014, 01:38 1

61. Chris.P (Posts: 309; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)


You really need to hold the S2 before you can make that statement. Trust me, your hand's tolerance to extra weight is not linear.

posted on 28 Aug 2014, 07:50 1

62. deewinc (Posts: 192; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Provided that the size of your palm remains constant. hehehehe!

posted on 28 Aug 2014, 10:13

65. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1475; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


that's a good one :D

posted on 28 Aug 2014, 09:00

64. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1475; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


You might be right. but for the fact that I do go to the gym. 270g seems really light to me

posted on 28 Aug 2014, 15:15 1

66. JC557 (Posts: 1165; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


I had the Sony Clie NZ-90 PDA and that thing weighed almost 10oz and I carried that thing every day because it had an awesome camera tied to a PDA. It beat carrying around a laptop though the browsing capabilities could have been better.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:55 1

19. sar44 (Posts: 278; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


samsunghatersarena
1. LG is laggy, s5 with last firmware not laggy
2. s5 have 107% (not 130%), 130% in z2
3. Why this displays is best in color reproduction?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742538
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797810

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:56 7

36. fatexo (Posts: 127; Member since: 21 May 2010)


LG is laggy and S5 not laggy ?
What LG phone are you comparing ?

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 15:05

54. gigaraga (Posts: 1381; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


Much haters of TW are back.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:08 6

2. GreekGeek (Posts: 845; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)


We're still in the dark ages.
16 gb is taking forever to evolve.
While its HDD counterpart in notebook and PCs, it only took a few years.
it's just sad.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:13 1

5. AlikMalix (Posts: 1017; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Tell me about it.... I think that 16GB shouldn't even be offered anymore. Start from 32GB and on...

Samsung Galaxy with only 16GB internal (and no 32GB or higher) is only about 8GB free space left, and unless you're ready to void warranty for your new phone and root, you gotta rely on that 8-9GB to fit all your apps and their data unless you can figure how to mount onto external... its ridiculous... and to think some of that precious space is taken up with Bloat...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:24 1

13. GreekGeek (Posts: 845; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)


Yeah, quite honestly it's depressing.
I don't know why / what is taking too long for them to get out of that 16 gb rut.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:11

26. Shatter (Posts: 2031; Member since: 29 May 2013)


The reason they don't is so they make more profit.

EMMC will be replaced by tech closer to ssd in phones soon, phones will be significantly faster and offer much more storage.

Samsung will be able to make 1TB phones with 3D nand at a reasonable price in 4-5 years.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 08:21 2

42. elitewolverine (Posts: 2117; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


space and costs

Internal memory is not cheap. They are far superior to sd in all ways, from data speeds, to lower fail rates. The company has to take the loss when they choose a 32gb phone and a memstick goes bad and replace the entire device.

It is far from oh lets just increase the amount

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 13:13

51. AfterShock (Posts: 2997; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


My $150 Samsung 256gb SSD says, memory is not as expensive as its said or you make out to be.

Going from 16-64 is not worth more then $50, not $200 plus as defended by some fans.

posted on 28 Aug 2014, 17:09

67. blazee (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)


are you really comparing pc hard disk drives( the size a book) to phone memory?

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 09:51 4

47. joey_sfb (Posts: 3294; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Don't buy is the best thing you could do for them and yourself.

I only buy if it's a 100% fit.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:17

27. sachouba (Posts: 40; Member since: 08 Jun 2014)


On the Galaxy S5, there is about 11GB free space left the first time you boot the device (with no carrier, of course).

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:10 2

3. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


I'm planning to buy a Galaxy tab 4 7.0 , but now that i read about TouchWiz i should probably change my mind....btw can i delete somehow the bloatware from the device ?

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:20 9

10. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Don't even think about getting a Tab 4, it lags. Get something else that's not a low end Samsung tablet. The safest choice is the Nexus 7 2013.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:33 2

16. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


Okay but the Nexus 7 (1gb ram) costs 210€ while the Tab 4 (1,5 gb ram) costs only 160€....btw LG G Pad V400 7.0 costs only 140€ but it has only 1gb ram.....what should i get cuz it's my 1st android device after 4 years...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:46 7

18. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Uh, the Nexus 7 2013 has 2GB RAM. Also, you're getting a better screen on the Nexus 7 2013, and offers a smoother experience than the Tab 4 7.0.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:00

22. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


I know but it's too expensive, i can't afford it....i'm looking to buy a low-end first and if i like.....any ideas ?

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:11

25. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Since you're on a tight budget, you should get the Tab 4 7.0 then. Good luck on your choice. :)

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:19

29. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


I want it only for browsing and light games...i hope it can handle a launcher too....

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:39 1

34. Ashoaib (Posts: 2436; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


go for tab s 8.4, the display is amazing and performance is buttery smooth... but I will suggest you, never buy samsung in mid range or in low end devices bcoz there are many many more alternatives which gives you better specs in same price of samsung...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 08:11 1

40. AfterShock (Posts: 2997; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Good on you, respect earned.

+1

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:20

30. sachouba (Posts: 40; Member since: 08 Jun 2014)


I don't know about the Galaxy Tab 4, but the Galaxy Tab 3 which used to lag on Android 4.2 is now very smooth thanks to the KitKat update. But indeed, the Tab 4 is not the best tablet you can get for that price.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:25

31. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


What the Tab 3 8.0 got the KitKat update ?

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 08:25

43. elitewolverine (Posts: 2117; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


If you not stuck on android, try a full windows 8.1 pc instead. This is coming out soon. And if not, their tablets aren't half bad. Here are two linkss

http://www.wpcentral.com/archos-unveils-new-windows-phone-and-windows-81-tablet-ahead-ifa-2014

http://www.archos.com/us/products/tablets/all.html?#menu

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 08:54

45. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


Good, but the only cheap Windows with bing tablet in Greece is the Bitmore WTab801 8" that costs 159€ wth only 1gb Ram, Intel Atom Z3735E 1.33 GHz, 8" TFT - 1280 x 800 IPS Display...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:21 1

12. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2869; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


No, rooting your device is the only way to remove bloatware. Get a Nexus 7 instead.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:37

17. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


But the Nexus 7 costs 210€......

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:56

20. ihavenoname (Posts: 1528; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


Worth it, I guarantee. So much better experience.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:59

21. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2869; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


OK, go get the Tab 4 then, as it has 1.5GB RAM and now-a-days the touchwiz doesn't lag like previous years after JB and KK. But Nexus 7 (2013) is worthier.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:11

24. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


Are you sure ? G pad v400 7.0 is good too but it has only 1gb ram.,..jeez why is so hard to pick an android device lol

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:19

28. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2869; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


Yes, sure, go with extra RAM which is always good.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 09:40

46. S.M.Talha (Posts: 68; Member since: 27 Aug 2014)


Well i use nexus 7 2012.Its quite good except that it dont have rear camera.1 gb ram is enough you dont have to worry about it.
I think you should check the lg g pad 7.0 for your self because i cant say much about this one.
But i might recommend the new asus memo pad 7 with intel chip.
Sorry but i am unable to give link.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 10:02

48. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


So you think 1gb is enough to run a launcher,some 3d games and have a good multitask aon the apps.....right ?

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 14:59

53. S.M.Talha (Posts: 68; Member since: 27 Aug 2014)


I dont know what a launcher is but here are some games which run decently on my nexus 7
Fifa 14
Asphalt airborn 8
Modern combat 4
I didnt notice any problem when playing any of these game.
Anyway there is no point in arguing because there is only samsung tab 4 and nexus 7 2013 with more than 1 gb ram.The first one is having bad performance and second one is out of your price range.
It means that your concern is not ram but to choose a better tablet now with 1 gb ram.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 15:08

55. S.M.Talha (Posts: 68; Member since: 27 Aug 2014)


Well i can help you a little bit by giving you some options:
From high price to low price:
Nexus 7 2013 ---- $200---- best of all
Evga tegra note 7 ----- $180----- best for gaming
Asus memo pad 7 (new model) ----$150---- best budget tablet

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 15:26

56. S.M.Talha (Posts: 68; Member since: 27 Aug 2014)


I just noticed that asus tablet i mentioned have 2mp rear camera.But better processor ---1.8 ghz and latest android 4.4.
It is called asus memopad 7(me176 cx).
So if you prefer camera over the other two features then get asus memopad hd 7.
Dont get confused one have hd in name and the other dont have hd in it.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 16:45

57. sip1995 (Posts: 959; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


I'll buy the Asus memo Pad 7 that costs only 139,00 €....

posted on 28 Aug 2014, 07:57

63. S.M.Talha (Posts: 68; Member since: 27 Aug 2014)


Hope it will be good enough for you.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:10

4. AlikMalix (Posts: 1017; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Great list. I love iPhones, the experience using one somewhat justifies the extra cost of space if one desires. But I wish more and more articles and complaints bomb the price jumps for extra memory on iPhones to a point that Apple would be embarrassed. Unfortunately people pay for it because they need it and they dont wish to buy alternatives like Samsung with Android + TouchWiz running the show. I'm all for cheaper prices - so yes keep on pounding that issue everyone... I guess same goes for bloat on Android.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:14

6. maherk (Posts: 1229; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


#10, they should have used the Z2 as an example, it's one of the most fingerprint magnet phones on the market.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:19

9. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3348; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


The white is not a magnet at all. Purple a little. Black yeah.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:16 3

7. lalalaman (Posts: 392; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)


Come on bro, u can't lift??? O_O

I think the heavy skin prob is a big issue, I used cyanogen s4 and a touchwiz s4......and then I never complained android for lag.........cyanogen was smoother than butter while touchwiz ruined it (but give some extra features though)

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:19

8. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3348; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


Almost none of these apply for the Z2 :) Maybe the fingerprint magnet if you get the black version. Not a problem on my white though.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:21 1

11. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 695; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


#6: Why on earth use a Lumia 630 to demonstrate a small earpiece? It's the same size as that of the iPhone 5s and only slightly smaller (not as wide, but higher) than that of the Galaxy S5, a larger device. It's also the same size or larger than mobile phones of the past, where this for some reason was not an issue...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 05:24 2

14. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2869; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


That's Nokia X, not L630.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:00 2

23. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 695; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


Still same size as iPhone...

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 18:19

59. JC557 (Posts: 1165; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


The Nexus 5 has an even smaller earpiece that's a somewhat tiny circle.

posted on 27 Aug 2014, 06:37 4

33. frydaexiii (Posts: 1239; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


"There's a reason the South Korean government outlawed this practice and told companies that bloatware should be removable like any other app."

Wait, Bloatware is banned in Korea? F**K YEAH Korea!

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