Apple used to delete tunes by rival services from its music players, court testimony reveals

Apple used to delete tunes by rival services from its music players, court testimony reveals
We know Steve Jobs was a pretty competitive guy, and giving a post mortem testimony for the ongoing class-action antitrust suit against Apple yesterday didn't help to alleviate this impression.

Apple, it turns out, has found an ingenuine way to nix songs downloaded with iTunes rival services from a user's music player. When an iPod owner synced it to their iTunes library, Apple went on to display an error message, saying that the device in question has to be restored to factory settings, said attorney Patrick Coughlin in U.S. District Court in Oakland, Calif. 

After restoring the iPod to its original state, however, the melodies that were obtained outside of iTunes would suddenly disappear, causing quite the frustration for said individual. Apple;s chief of security, however, Augustin Farrugia, claimed in court that it was all for security purposes, as hackers such as the so-called “DVD Jon” or “Requiem” were trying to wiggle in. 

Thus, since “the system was totally hacked,” he mentioned, Apple went “paranoid,” and used to chuck all non-Apple music on a regular basis. As to why didn't it say so to consumers who were affected, Apple testified that: “We don’t need to give users too much information,” and “We don’t want to confuse users.” There you have it.

source: WSJ

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27 Comments

1. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

So Apple in the 2000's were the Microsoft in the 90's?

9. SaintHelena

Posts: 397; Member since: Nov 05, 2014

I think Apple need to be fined about HALF of their MONEY. So they could learn some lesson.

10. Finalflash

Posts: 4061; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

This is the thing, they do these shady things to their own consumers and then you have the Apple defense army defending this kind of garbage. It is just unbelievable that this company still gets such wide support for all the underhanded things they do.

24. laughmi

Posts: 283; Member since: Oct 28, 2014

Only Brainless are mad supporters of this crap company. They use all cheap dirty unethical business tactics to suppress the competition. I would bettre buy a chinese brand rather than giving my money to this crap-fruit company selling exorbitantly overpriced featureless s**ts.

25. SaintHelena

Posts: 397; Member since: Nov 05, 2014

agree... It's so sad seeing ishe3p so devoted to apple.

27. ZeroCide

Posts: 806; Member since: Jan 09, 2013

This has always been the apple way ever since the company was founded!!! Steve is a truly despicable human.

2. xtroid2k

Posts: 601; Member since: Jan 11, 2010

Well now, I'm not buying the whole story at all. c'mon I had to delete your stuff because we were paranoid of security. WOW. I remember this too like it was yesterday. thats why I had a sony mini disc and zen player. I almost got the beloved iRiver but never did. in 2006 I got an ipod but then it died two years later

3. parthpatels007

Posts: 54; Member since: May 27, 2011

“We don’t need to give users too much information,” and “We don’t want to confuse users.”

4. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

It's their user base. Of course, apple users are confused by anything. And apple keeps them that way by appealing to their ignorance instead of explaining or helping them along with, gasp, an instruction manual.

5. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Apple also burn out generic hdd installed into macbook pro. I tried once to upgrade my 128GB hdd to 500GB and within one week my new hdd start giving out sound. Google the information to find that many other do experience it as well. Only HDD with Apple firmware won't be wear down by OS X. This has always been Apple business practise.

8. SaintHelena

Posts: 397; Member since: Nov 05, 2014

@joey_sfb You were too smart to use MacBook Pro. If you want to use MacBook Pro, you should not confused the device by installing larger HDD that were not paying any AppleTax.

6. NexusKoolaid

Posts: 493; Member since: Oct 24, 2011

I'm not buying any Apple products because I don't need to give Apple too much of my money. I don't want to confuse their accountants.

26. Devansh.cool2 unregistered

nice Burn

7. SaintHelena

Posts: 397; Member since: Nov 05, 2014

Apparently, i-s-h-ee-p can't handle too much information. The i-s-h-ee-p only need information that were 'safe'. BTW, Deleting executable is bad, but still can be argued... But deleting MP3??? Is there any MP3 malware?

20. blazee

Posts: 414; Member since: Jan 02, 2012

They were right, that kind of information could be too much for apple fans. Their brains could start malfunctioning and possibly even blow up.

11. ibap

Posts: 865; Member since: Sep 09, 2009

WOW, that really tells you all you need to know.

12. darkkjedii

Posts: 30672; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Apple using pine tar huh. I'm telling George Brett.

15. tedkord

Posts: 17043; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Man, you're dating yourself with that one.

16. darkkjedii

Posts: 30672; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Lmao, very few will get it ted.

18. ePoch270

Posts: 193; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

I just pictured Steve Jobs sprinting out of 1 Infinite Loop a la Brett, with Johnny Ive holding him back.

19. darkkjedii

Posts: 30672; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Pissed the hell off lol. Brett was ready to fight.

13. Stuntman

Posts: 843; Member since: Aug 01, 2011

The impression I get is that Apple used any excuse to delete any music files obtained from any competing service.

14. corporateJP

Posts: 2458; Member since: Nov 28, 2009

Lowlifes get away with murder because they payoff the judges...figure it out. Add it up: largest company in the United States, largest cash reserve, most (undercover) lobbyists. Funny how the U.S. government was the one giving device manufacturers the most hell to find a universal port and charger, yet Apple skates away with their own "Lightning" bullish*t and $50 OEM car chargers. Apple is dirty. Case closed.

17. darkkjedii

Posts: 30672; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Case closed.

21. lithium451

Posts: 8; Member since: Nov 05, 2014

"We know Steve Jobs was a pretty competitive guy" or as others would say: a total dick.

22. Scott93274

Posts: 6021; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Hmm... I remember having that issue a long time ago. It was the whole reason why I never bothered to sync my iPods. Had no clue as to why my music would get deleted. Now I know and I like Apple even less now. And the quotes “We don’t need to give users too much information,” and “We don’t want to confuse users.” are insulting to anyone who owns an Apple product, and is just a BS excuse to their corrupt practices.

23. SaintHelena

Posts: 397; Member since: Nov 05, 2014

Steve Jobs just saying "I'm the GOD, and iSh__p must obey me!!!"

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