Samsung denies having any part of “Wake Up” protest
1. Commentator (Posts: 2183; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Well, whoever it was, they clearly didn't get their message across very well. Also, I'd advise PA to change their source on the original article from "Samsung" to something else. I'm no lawyer, but if Samsung is denying this, I think PA may be guilty of misrepresentation.
7. ardent1 (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
It's a good thing Commentator ISN'T a lawyer because a lawyer worth his salt will point out a US Supreme Court decision over publishing news such as the one we are discussing. It's the same decision that allows National Inquirer or any gossip magazine to run suspected news about public figures. Just about every first amendment lawyer knows this decision.
I take it Samsung's "wake-up" website was a mere coincidence?
11. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Meh, I don't know if I believe Samsung on this one. I mean, there was a buss with the word's "Wake Up" on it. No random group of people would care that much to do something like that.
This reminds me of when "Dante's Inferno" came out (the video game). The makers staged a protest outside their own office to drum up controversy. At first, they denied it, but later said they were responsible. Everyone saw right through the hoax anyway...
12. Commentator (Posts: 2183; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
The problem, ardent1, is that Samsung never ran a "wake-up" website, but PA linked it with Samsung as a source. They clearly made you believe that Samsung did run a "wake up" website.
Also, Jeff, any social-activist group worth their salt could afford a painted van and a few dozen people, and Apple is a prime target for activist groups. Look at the Greenpeace article from earlier today.
60. ardent1 (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Commentator, you are making the same mistake again. First, you didn't know the rule of law and accused PA of something that PA has an affirmative defense.
Second, you now make a claim that Samsung never ran a wake-up website. You provided no proof to support your assertion. Here are the facts:
1) New Dialogue Pty Limited owns that domain name
2) "New Dialogue Pty Limited is a private company categorized under Commercial Nonphysical Research and located in Sydney, NSW, Australia. Our records show it was established in 2004" (source manta.com)
3) There is NO information regarding where Samsung or its affiliates or indirect subsidaries contracted with New Dialogue Pty Limited in regards to said website.
Therefore, there isn't information to either support or refute the claim Samsung never ran said website.
61. MoonlitTear (Posts: 35; Member since: 09 Jun 2008)
from the picture.. that was NOT a painted van. It was a painted tour bus... Just throwing that out there......
2. rf1975 (Posts: 232; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
I do not know who really did this. But no one in the world accept that they have done something wrong until some one prove that. Do you think Samsung will accept?
8. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
6. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)
wow first they deny copying Apple and now this... so now allof those people went out of own will.. please Samsung you also lied about updating your phones to ICS and will give the US the finger with their dual core crap on the SGSIII S... what else?.. samsung what else?....
14. Mark.J.Linskiy (unregistered)
Actually more than just "Samsung users" call Apple product users "sheep", since it is true because the majority of them are..
16. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Fandroids call Apple users sheep because they can't accept reality so they have to rationalize Apple's success.
19. Mark.J.Linskiy (unregistered)
This isn't about Apples success, it's about the majority of the users being called "sheep" because they will buy a product mainly due to it being from Apple. How are Android user "sheep" if they have multiple manufactures to choose from, and get what suits them best, instead of choosing only one manufacture, Apple, no matter what.. I'm not quite sure you even have a valid argument, since you seem to mix things together that don't make much sense..
22. Mark.J.Linskiy (unregistered)
Haha, nice one..
24. tedkord (Posts: 3920; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Yes, I just can't accept that in 4 short years Android has doubled iOS' share, and continues to build double it's growth nearly every quarter.
Oh, wait. That's you.
27. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
When have I disputed android is doing well in market share?
32. tedkord (Posts: 3920; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
You iRationalize it. You have to have excuses why it's doing so well. You can't say it's because they're good devices.
35. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
We know why android does well in market share. They give away their sw for free and then the OEM's after finding out they can't compete with Apple on an even playing field have fire sales and basically give their phones away.
37. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
apple and google are playing 2 very different games, and its only iNuts that keep trying to put them together. U think that higher prices is somehow good for you.. when its not. your not getting more, your just paying more. Your paying a premium for the brand because there is no other competition in the iOS space to bring down prices.
Weather you feel that iOS is worth the tag or not, is irrelevant to that point. Think about it.. you are actually trying to brag that you pay MORE for essentially the same base tech, with a less capable OS. Good job taco.. good job.
Apple is going for pure profit. Android is going for market dominance to sell adds. Both are winning in their fields.
Glad to see your ban is being ignored.
40. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
The less capable OS is android and that's why people aren't willing to pay for it.
41. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
oh im sorry, how many models of iphone go for 300 on contract? a lot less than android.
The value plan on tmobile sells the phones at retail. Do you know how many people buy the SGS2 at its $600 full retail?
More than any other phone tmobile sells.. by a large margin.
Like normal, you have no proof, out dated opinions..
AND ARE STILL POSTING AFTER YOU LOST THE BEST.
43. tedkord (Posts: 3920; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Oh yeah, the OS that can multitask is less capable than the one that can't. Android has done everything that iOS does since Froyo, and since Gingerbread more. With ICS, it finally does it just as smoothly.
Again, read all the reviews of ICS. Or better yet, don't. Your mind will just filter it out, and you'll convince yourself that it said it was laggy, just like you did with the OneX review.
EDIT: Actually, with Froyo it did more. I was forgetting flash.
46. taz89 (Posts: 1946; Member since: 03 May 2011)
can i ask you how android is less capable than ios...in my opinion it does pretty much everything ios does and more...just asking :)
30. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Apple has success, sure. But Apple doesn't get it from the quality of their devices, only the popularity. In short, Steve Jobs was a marketing genius.
53. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4600; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
42. RobotMan (Posts: 124; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
It true until proven wrong. If Samsung said that they did not do that, then they are not. What so big deal about all of this.
26. matrix_neo (Posts: 307; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Where is your proof? This kind of campaign obviously to wake up those people who are blindly fooled by some companies that take advantage their foolishness and ignorance. Accept it or not your sheperd the apple, is one of them. They think that some fruits of your apple are rotten and shouldn't be eaten nor share it. Sadly sheeps like you and gallitoking are still eating it coz you think its the best fruit. However samsung is trying to save you from it. Wake up campaign is aiming for all not only for apple, so accusing samsung as the mastermind is such an idiotic accusation. Does your apple has ever confirmed, accept or denying also their wrongdoings??!!
I'm a tech enthusiast also lets just be fair, every companies has it's own shortcomings also, we have no right to judge them based on what we heard or read in paper unless they blantly show it and still denying it. Just saying...
13. pongkie (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
if its not samsung it could be greenpeace. those guys had a black colored theme they wore black shirts and held black signs plus they also released black balloons inside the apple store
31. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Your username + your comment made me crack up.
17. djg71087 (Posts: 70; Member since: 10 Oct 2010)
Probably people protesting against stuff going on with Foxconn
20. taz89 (Posts: 1946; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Like I said from the beginning until there was proof that samsi.g was behind this you should never have written an.article.as if Samsung was behind it.
23. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
It's obvious Samsung is behind this
28. taz89 (Posts: 1946; Member since: 03 May 2011)
How's it obvious not anywhere did the bus or people even.mention Samsung at all...if your reason is because they Been mocking apple before than that's like saying to someone who's committed a crime before than any crime thats similar means.that person is automatically guilty...thankfully that's not how things work.
25. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
You assume people are sheep because they don't make the same purchasing decision as you that would actually make you the one with the sheep mentality.
29. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I'd prefer McDonald's over Taco Bell though.
38. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ugh. no .. taco bell any day of the week. :) mcdonalds is gross.
33. networkdood (Posts: 5517; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
No, we say they are sheep because their main reason to buy an iphone is that it has "Wifis' and "3G", and that since it is made by apple, or little susie down the street has one, and, so, therefore, it needs to be purchased.
34. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Yes because there's no legitimate reasons to buy an iPhone right?
39. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
U buy an iPhone cuz it smells good and the glass tastes delicious, yet i think the battery was the juiciest part of the meal.
44. tedkord (Posts: 3920; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
There are plenty of legit reasons to buy an iPhone. It's a damned nice piece of tech, and looks good. There are an equal number of legit reasons to get an android.
ot all iPhone owners are sheep. I know several who aren't. I also know several who buy it only because its the iPhone, and will only buy iPhones. They are the sheep.
One non sheep owner I know I worked with. He did not upgrade his 4 to the 4s, because he recognized it wasn't a step up from his 4. He also would consider an android phone, but he has a lot invested in music and video through iTunes, and he doesn't want to rebuy.
My sister in law Is a sheep. She complains about constant dropped calls with her iPhone, but will not consider any other device because its "not an iPhone." Another fellow at work is a sheep. He argued with me for 10 minutes one day that his VZW iphone4 was 4g, because it says 4 right in the name. He claimed the only reason he didn't get 4g dl speeds was that we had no 4g in our area. I even showed him the full bar 4g signal on my Thunderbolt, and he still swore he had a 4g phone. That is a sheep.
47. taz89 (Posts: 1946; Member since: 03 May 2011)
couldnt agree more, like you i think the iphone is a great piece of phone and theres a reason why people buy it...i just think that the people who dismiss anything that isnt apple and i know a lot of people that do do that and will buy anything that has an apple badge...in my opinion i believe that is silly and very closed minded...to dismiss something without trying is what children do and shouldnt be people who are clearly mature.
56. tedkord (Posts: 3920; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Right. There are folks who will buy the iPhone5, already knowing they're going to get the 6 next year, without knowing anything about it or it's competition. That's a sheep mentality.
The other sheep are the ones who insist OSx cannot get viruses or malware, it's impossible.
52. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
we are the iSheeps don't have many reason to do jealousy thing because we will be in heaven. so, you sGoat, stop attack other manufacturer's customer or you will be placed at hell
45. sarb009 (Posts: 264; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
iphonearena just wants to make samsung's image bad thats y linking this s**t protest with samsung without any proof. is this a coincidence y this happened this just b4 annoucement of galaxy s3 n linking this to samsung ? couldn't be it just apple behind all this bcuz none else waste money on stupid things like suing for phone covers, headphones, chargers, taking a s**t in a certain way etc. etc. ? iPa is just full of sheep(i cant put i b4 sheep bcuz its not allowed on iphonearena. bunch of iDiots behind this website
48. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
If samsung was not behind this. Samsung can sue the agency which involved in the demonstration. And I still believe samsung is behind this.
49. matrix_neo (Posts: 307; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Are you clone of taco50?? Just asking... better read all the comments being posted here at least a little might clear your opinion. Samsung already denied it. It just happened that the campaign took place in apple store and we obviously knew that apple and samsung are not in good terms. Not all protest and bad campaign against apple, samsung is behind it, many are against the way apple manage the competition with other companies. Apple deserved to have this Wake up campaign.
55. tedkord (Posts: 3920; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
How can Samsung sue the protesters? The protesters didn't invoke Samsung's name in any way. Maybe I can sue the protesters, too?
No, there's nothing actionable there. However, if Samsung didn't do it (and I'm not 100% convinced they didn't), then websites that printed they did it could be open for lawsuit - though I don't know it'd be worth the time or money, and they might end up with nothing more than a retraction.
59. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
I'm not say the protesters but the agency who organized the protest. In my country, protesters must register for demonstration. who responsible in demonstration, if mess happen. so, if samsung denied it samsung can sue the agency because some proofs said it was behind samsung
50. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
don't care what you say. you must be don't read the previous news yet. check to many forum, so many proofs that samsung did. samsung is the only company who dare to attack apple and its customer. just like samsung fanboy always attack other manufaturer's customer with nasty words. go away, you moron. if thieves are not denied, prisoners will be full.
54. matrix_neo (Posts: 307; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
I don't care what you say also. Don't play an innocent sheep, you even also use nasty words. You're just like an iOS, a closed ecosystem, your mind is also closed, apple has already taken over your life, so scary, so ungrateful and so sad. You really need a wake up campaign...
58. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
what's wrong about closed ecosystem, a lot of company want to applied closed system. u must read a lot. samsung will going to bada or tizen, sony going to OS-vita, HP still using webos, RIM using blackberry os. windows open but not free. what for open system, u have dual core processor for android device can not beat single core proccessor of apple. quad core processor of android device equal to dual core processor device from apple. wakeup guys, you hypnotized by open-slow os. I much agree samsung concern on bada or tizen because samsung now suffered by microsoft licensing because of your open system.