Nokia Windows Phone manufacturer Compal to start shipping the first devices next month
Nokia went with Compal for the first batch of its Windows Phone devices, since it has more experience than the Finns, as it has been assembling WP7 handsets for latecomer licensees like Acer, ZTE and Fujitsu.
By outsourcing production, Nokia apparently wants to speed the time to market for the Nokia Sea Ray and other WP handsets, since its smartphone sales are getting hammered ever since it announced the grande switch to Microsoft's mobile OS. If this rumor is true, then we can indeed see the phones announced at Nokia World in the end of October, and available for sale immediately thereafter.
source: Twitter via UnwiredView
1. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Ha, they only manufcature 2 million phones untill the end of the year.
That means they will have 1.5 million left in stock that no one wants to buy and they will have to slash prices 50 %. Maybe i'll buy one then ?
But seriously, they drop Symbian and MeeGo, to sell only at most 2 million WP7 ???
well, if they don't make more of other WP7 phones then.
8. Johnnie (unregistered)
Hah, you think it is one factory only. LOL
They've got their pipelines hot and Compal is new capasity needed.
How's Eric doing with chinese Androids, by the way? Free fall, then toast?
11. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
You are seriously the BIGGEST TROLL/BABY I HAVE SEEN ON THIS SITE TO DATE. Go in a forum and talk about Bad-a all you want. Nobody cares about your opinion, and if you actually looked at every single post you make here, you get thumbs down every single time. And in return, you give the person a "thumbs down" back. Really, really mature. Everything you say is more annoying than the last post you make, which is ehhhh, I'd say every TWO HOURS. Do us all a favor, read and leave.
19. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Thats not nice.
You apparently like some other OS, which is fine, and i respect that.
I like bada, and that is also fine and you should respect that as well.
22. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
Dj21o was kind of disrespectful but he was right, we all know that you love Bada. But still you shouldn't be bashing and hating WP7 everytime Phonearena posts news about it. If you like Bada that's ok we respect that but don't try to drag everybody into Bada hating WP7. By the way I like your comments bro but sometimes you get out of control.
25. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Maybe i should, not write as hatefull of WP7, as i have been. Have maybe been a little too brutal against WP7.
But still, i personally think that WP7 is ugly, and i think that's the reason it has not been selling to well recently.
What do you think, why has WP7 not sold so well ?
29. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
Because of iOS and android and also because it lacked some features when it first came out. But that's gonna change with Mango. Mango brings 500+ new features.
24. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Then respect WP7 and don't bash on it every single post there is. I do not just come out and say that I hate Bada and "I don't know why people like that ugly, buggy OS" do I? I don't go out of my way to bash on another OS, especially since WP7 has nothing to do with it. If you prefer it, great. But don't go out of harms way to let everyone know what OS makes you hard lol. Sorry for being a douche, but you have to draw the line somewhere.
26. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
This is just a honest question, and no sarcasm or anything here.
what do you think of WP7, do you think it looks nice ?
32. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
I love having good battery life, being able to push notifications (without having to turn them off to save battery), no task killer, and good quality applications. I, personally, install maybe 1 to 2 games at a time, but I like going on Reddit, checking news and weather, a little urban dictionary, and having no lag. And live tiles would work in my favor. If I can just glance at my phone, then turn it off, that would be awesome. I spend at least 10 minutes at a time checking my facebook, emails and other things (mentioned above). And, if I want to change my theme, I can because it comes pre-installed to do so. That's why I like it, in a nutshell lol.
33. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
I agree with you on that, you use your phone pretty much the same way I use mine.
34. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
I think it is such an awesome concept. The UI with live tiles (more support in Mango), apps and games (GOOD quality, with more in Mango) live notifications, it doesn't get much more simple than that.
If I sync my phone with WiFi/Data/GPS, my phone dies in 6 hours easily. I do get more variety with Android, but I want a stable phone again. I hope Nokia delivers this year.
To top it all off, my Evo has a messed up screen. I have the protection plan, but if I trade my phone in, it puts me back to stock. The kind folks at XDA cannot break the bootloader when the phone comes with 2.3. So I am basically stuck where I am until I get a new phone.
The Arrive looks great and all, but I don't want a small screen with a keyboard. So Mango needs to get here lol.
35. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Okay, so good battery life is a good thing. I agree on that. Only problem is that with my Omnia 7, the battery life was terrible. Took me about 7 hours of nomral use and the battery was empty.
With the wave and wave 2 on the other hand, the battery lasts 1,5 - 2 days with average use. And both the wave and Omnia 7 have 1 Ghz proccessor and superamoled screen, so i really think that it's the OsS, WP7 that was using the battery so much. Or does the Samsungs hummingbird proccessor use less battery than the snapdragon ?
And the live tiles, they don't do much more than Androids or badas notification bar. In fact, Andriods and badas notification bar do more according to me.
You see, the live tiles only show how many messages you have. For example it says, 5 Text messages, 3 facebook messages, 2 emails. In order to read all the new messages you have to click on the tile and open the app. Then you have to click on the message or email you want to read In comparison with bada, if you have a new text meassage you can just pull down the notification bar and read parts of the message directly. If you want to read the whole message, you only need to click on that message in the notification bar and you are there reading the message right away, without the need to choose which message to read.
And about good quality apps. The Samsungapps store according to me have almost only good quality apps. Thats because the do strict controlls of the apps entering samsungapps. There are currently about 6100 apps for bada, and about 6000 of them are really good quality apps.
And when it comes to themes, you can only choose between certain colours.
With bada you can download themes, where you not only get a new color, but also new icons.
So if you like themes, and you only want to glance at the phone to read your messages, i think bada would be a good choice.
38. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Yeah that is true. But live tiles are much more appealing to me. Androids battery life is terrible (unless you root and extract a new kernel), it is not good lol. With WP7, my messages turn my screen on, and all I have to do is tap the icon on the screen, unlock the device, and it goes right to my messages. Same thing when I am in an app. I love having my Android because of the games, big screens, app selection, etc. I'm not sure if I can keep dealing with the force closes, dealing with turning all of my data off, yadda yadda yadda. And the iPhone 5 looks promising as well. I'm just waiting to see what hits the shelves first and keep looking. Whether it is Android, Windows, Apple, Bada, I don't know. Too much to just state on a website and do research. I'd rather go to the store and see for myself lol.
39. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Oh, and talking of reading the message by tapping on the lock screen, with bada if the phone is locked and there is a new message or a missed call, the lock screen looks like a puzzle with your background image as the puzzle, and one piece of the puzzle (which ic colored green for text messages and have amessage icon on it, and red with a phone icon on it for missed calls) is out of place. All you need to do is to touch the puzzle that is out of place and drag it on to the correct place and the phone opens the text message.
That works really good, and looks really cool as well.
41. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
I could go back and forth with you all day on here, but at the end of the day, I think WP7 is much easier to use than Android. It is designed for its fluidity and I believe it meets the requirements I am looking for. I'm not going to bash you on here and say Android or Bada is nothing compared to it, but I love what WP7 is and what it stands for.
I also love sliding up on the lockscreen with WP7,too. lol.
45. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Haha, the lockscreen is fun to slide up and down when you have nothing to do, but it is quiet useless...
49. i will buy it (unregistered)
yes the hummingbird use less battery than snapdragon.
if wave or wave II use snapdragon they will have the same battery life just like omnia 7.
so this is not the OS fault, its the SOC fault. just compare the android HTC (all using snapdragon scorpion core) line up with other SOC, you will see its snapdragon fault for the battery drain, not the OS.
50. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I thought that the snapdragon used more battery than the hummingbird.
Seems like samsung knows how to make really good proccessors : )
44. nsrmdn (Posts: 1; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
Just read this report on site link below to educate your self what nokia is?
48. i will buy it (unregistered)
i will buy one.
not many people like WP7 phones because they dont try to learn what is WP7
dont hate the OS just because it doesnt have UI like android style or iOS style.
WP7 is alot better than symbian, just try it your self and learn what microsoft trying to offer, learn their mindset and you will learn that WP7 is a good OS and doesnt need much tweak to work fast.
i love all OS and please dont hate wp7 just because you cant understand how wp7 work for you. learn it.
i will buy one nokia! im not your fans and a disappointed n5800xm user, the 1st and my last nokia ever, but i really love to try WP7 in nokia phone.
2. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
of course they're gonna manufacture more than 2 million phones. Nokia is outsourcing production to Compal to speed up the process, they know what they're doing. Believe it or not many people are starting to get interested in WP7, try using one yourself or try watching some reviews on youtube about Mango.
3. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I have used WP7 myself, check my profile of used phones.
What i can say is, extremely boring, and ugly UI and buggy as well.
4. Chakra (Posts: 118; Member since: 02 Dec 2009)
I can say that about IOS and android as well. What's your point? Show my a phone that's not, and I'll show a phone with 100% total market share.
20. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Point is, WP7, is waay, more buggy than the other OSes on the market.
in the 1 month i had my WP7, i experienced over 10 bugs !
Serious one, like the live tiles not updating, phone rebooting...
21. P-YWS (Posts: 27; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
Peter, when did you experience the "bugs"? Whether it is yesterday or 6 months ago, those are "history" and is no longer relevant to this upcoming Nokia WP7 phone. This is a WP7-Mango OS. Besides, show me one piece of the high-tech device that is not buggy to begin with. Did it ever come to your mind that you had a 'lemon' WP7 phone to begin with? By the way, can you share with us what is the make and model of the buggy WP7 phone? To end, I believe that we should all keep our mind open, "history" should not be the most important decision factor to buy a smartphone. AFter all, it is your hard-earned money. Regardless of iOS, Android, WP7, WebOS, Symbian, BB OS7, they are all buggy in different ways.
27. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
The phone i had was Samsung Omnia 7. Great hardware, i did just not like the software : )
With Mango MS, probably got rid of alot of bugs, will test it in the stores when it comes out (or go knock on my neighbours door, she's a MS employee and got the Omnia 7 as well).
What i really want with the Nokia WP7, is the MeeGo / harmattan, swipe UI.
To be honest, had Nokia done that, i would be the first to buy Nokia's WP7 because it's the UI i find boring with WP7. Also i wish they would open up WP7 a bit more.
42. P-YWS (Posts: 27; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
I would suggest that you forgot about MeeGo, at least for another year. In truth, given the money that were poured into MeeGo (years of bad execution from Intel, insufficient investment from Nokia for the last year), there will be tons of issues with the MeeGo-based N9. No doubt, MeeGo v1.2 as-is has many good virtues and do some things really well. But, as someone who has to work your butt off for living, do you want to be a tester while paying a lot of money to buy the N9? As you had experienced with the various OS & smartphone combination, they all frustrate you in different ways, and not just once or twice. MeeGo-N9 could be good for those brave souls who are not annoyed by the bugs. For the sane publics, the Mango-based or Bada-based or IceCream-based or the iOS-based smartphone should provide far better user experience. My two cents.
46. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
"As you had experienced with the various OS & smartphone combination, they all frustrate you in different ways"
That's not completely true though.
bada has never frustrated me even once, so i'm perfectly happy with my bada phones.
Buti do plan to get the Nokia N9 even if nobody else buys it, just because it is so unique phone.
6. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
what happens is that you are too attached to Bada and that doesn't let you see the great thing WP7 is.
18. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Actually i did not have a bada phone when i had the Omnia 7.
When i had the Omnia 7, i only had that phone and the Nokia N8. Okay, i agree that the Omnia 7 was nicer to use than the N8, even though it was more buggy.
After a month of use, i became so frustrated with the Omnia7, i started to look at other phones. That's when i decided to try bada, and have been happy since.
23. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
You probably had a defective Omnia 7 because I haven't heard those types of complaints about it.
I have a Nokia N8 hacked with a new and fresh UI and it works pretty well for me. But ''P-YWS'' is right every OS has its bugs and even more when the OS is new.
28. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
No, i dont think the Omnia 7 i had was defective. Everything hardware wise worked perfectly, and everything was fast and smooth except for the bugs.
30. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
I'm prettey sure with Nodo and Mango all those bugs were sorted out.
36. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Well, not with Nodo. I had Nodo and still had those bugs on the omnia 7.
with the mango update, they might have dissapeared. Might check.
9. boutija (Posts: 2; Member since: 18 Jun 2011)
You have got to be kidding me. I have used every OS on the market and when I saw Metro in my hand for the first time it was fresh, clean, and certainly not buggy. My Nodo Trophy has had 0 crashes and worked like a champ. I can't say that about Palm, Blackberry, Android and honestly I have made the iPhone crash even though I would consider it a very stable OS as well. Maybe your a little crazy or sideloaded a bunch of shiz on your wp7.
17. JayRaj (Posts: 54; Member since: 31 Oct 2010)
Mango has lifted WP's bar to great height, to say the least. . .
5. urthatguy (Posts: 19; Member since: 22 Jun 2011)
please come to sprint, please come to sprint. great looking phone with a great OS. ready to ditch this droid
7. Urkkifromfinland (unregistered)
What should I buy instead of WP, some filthy ericson? =)
Btw, how many devices did they sell at last qt? 0,2 million or so? =)
10. mike (unregistered)
I am ready to switch as soon as that phone comes to sprint ... I hate android .... I checked W7 and i i think its what i need phone that does'nt slow down or freez up ... no task killer needed donn't have to take the battery out 5 times a day on top of all that all the no force close and all apps are tested by microsoft ... what else do u need ???
12. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Absolutely nothing, sir. That's my plan as well when it comes to Sprint!!! Ice Cream is coming in October though.. But I'm assuming you still need a task killer and what not...
14. JayRaj (Posts: 54; Member since: 31 Oct 2010)
Android Sucks!! (I'm ready for your "thumbs down" Android Fan boys!! :P)
31. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
I don't think it is terrible persay, I just think they need to make it more battery efficient and definitely work on quality of apps. The force closes, lag, and battery are what drive me away from Android. But besides that, I've owned 3 Android phones and have had overall good experiences with them. Sure, if I didn't root all of them I'm sure I wouldn't of had that much problems, but thats besides the point lol. Off topic, but why doesn't Google hire CyanogenMod? That's the only ROMs I use now?
13. JayRaj (Posts: 54; Member since: 31 Oct 2010)
Hmmm... We are seeing the flock flying towards WP7 now. That's just because the OS got linked with Nokia. Such valuable name takes years to get established. . .
16. JayRaj (Posts: 54; Member since: 31 Oct 2010)
And Nokia is still the biggest smartphone maker guys. The reported downfall was because the previous figures took into account the total units "shipped" and Gartner has accounted for number of units purchased by end users. Samsung and LG follow.
37. Postal Jim (unregistered)
Nokia has partnered with Microsoft to flood the marketplace with tons of WinPhones. Top of the line to mid level, all supposedly to be priced to move. Microsoft wants their platform out there and Nokia has allegedly agreed to assist them. There WILL be MILLIONS of Nokia Windows phones produced and shipped and priced to move. Wait and see.
40. snowgator (Posts: 3199; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Would be more than happy to jump on W7 with Nokia, but I want the top level hardware experience. I know Nokia became #1 by putting out high quality mid range devices. But I have faith in a high end Nokia being a blast to own. Not sure when we see them on the shore of the U.S., but I hope it is their best offering to start with. I am happily greedy on this one.....
43. P-YWS (Posts: 27; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
Even though Nokia has been selling the brick-like features and smart phones over the years, I still trust that Its phones are of high quality, perhaps even a notch above Motorola's, definitely above LG's. I am holding off from putting down my money for the Galaxy S2 until the WP7 phone from Nokia shows up. But, it has better be able to display Asian characters like those from China / Japan / Korea without me fiddling with "rooting" or whatever. Or else, I'll go for the S2. In principle, I will never buy a smartphone which can only shows English / French / Spanish. Because of global economy, I and many people travel to Asia, not France, for business and leisure. Smartphone which does not support Asian language natively is bad. It will not allow the local SIM card to be used properly because many message will show up as garbage.
47. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
As far as quality hardware I can say that Nokia has a little edge over its competitors, I have a Nokia N8 and all the basic features work better than many of the top dogs android phones. For example the wifi radio is more stable and picks up signal when other smart phones don't, the call quality is on top, the GPS is one of the most accurate, the camera (we don't need to talk about that), even the bluetooth has a little edge, and finally the built-in quality and the design are on top.
The only thing that was putting Nokia behind is the software.