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Microsoft: "the majority" of Lumia smartphones will be updated to Windows 10

Microsoft: "the majority" of Lumia smartphones will be updated to Windows 10

Remember how Microsoft said that "all Lumia Windows Phone 8 devices" would be updated to Windows 10? Now, after the Redmond giant showcased most of the new features that Windows 10 is bringing, the company isn't so sure anymore that all models would get the update.

According to a post from the official Lumia Conversations blog, which presents an interview with Chris Weber, Corporate Vice President of Sales for Microsoft Mobile Devices, the "goal is for the majority of the Lumia phones running Windows Phone 8 and 8.1 to join the Windows [10] ecosystem." That means some devices could be left out. In fact, this quote - "not every phone will upgrade or support all possible Windows 10 features" - is pretty self-explanatory.

While Microsoft mentions some of the recent Lumias that will certainly receive the Windows 10 update (like the Nokia Lumia 930, Nokia Lumia 735, or Microsoft Lumia 435), things aren't that clear when it comes to devices released a couple of years ago, like the Lumia 620 or Lumia 520. Hopefully, we'll soon have an exhaustive list of WP handsets that are Windows 10-ready.

Despite the fact that Microsoft says "there’s never been a better time than now to buy a Lumia", it's probably better to wait until newer models are launched - including a much-anticipated flagship that will run Windows 10 out of the box and is expected to arrive as soon as late summer.

source: Lumia Conversation

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posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:01 5

1. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Yeah, its out on other sites too.
Some WP won't leave where they are currently.

Ruh Roh.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 14:23 4

22. sgodsell (Posts: 3071; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


I think all the WP 8 devices with only 512mb of ram will not see the full WP 10 upgrade. Which happens to be the majority of WP devices that are currently on the market.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 19:46 1

28. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Thought they guaranteed updates for three years?

posted on 23 Jan 2015, 03:13

31. BobbyBuster (banned) (Posts: 854; Member since: 13 Jan 2015)


By Apple's standard, GNex would get Android M this year.
By MS' standard, GNex would have got Lollipop last year.

GNex didn't get even Kitkat.

Well, that's Google's standard.

posted on 23 Jan 2015, 05:45 1

33. EcoCare (Posts: 357; Member since: 30 Jul 2014)


Yeah it might run Android M by Apple but you also get horrible performance like iPhone 4 running iOS 7.

posted on 24 Jan 2015, 08:48

37. hazydave (Posts: 12; Member since: 18 Nov 2014)


Depends on the model. Apple dropped the iPad 1 less than a year after taking it off the market. And while Google was wrong in dropping the Galaxy Nexus, that is the ONLY Nexus phone they dropped in less than three years of support so-far. And at least I could get one of several 4.4 releases supported by the community.. which was the best - running release I had used. The screen was failing on my GNex by the time I traded up to an LG G2.

I could be running an early L release for the GNex today. Or the G2, if I don't feel like waiting an extra 3-6 months for Verizon to push out the upgrade. Apple certainly has a better distribution model. On the other hand, they burn the old version... new apps don't run on the old OS. So you have to update the OS, and when Apple drops an old model, they burn it. On Android, lots of new stuff still runs on 2.3. Completely different approaches.

posted on 23 Jan 2015, 09:30

36. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


And here is our android troll on the road again! Hows Android update program goes? :) Android knows how to upgrade and keep consumers happy!? Right?

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:02 2

2. leonmbj (Posts: 45; Member since: 05 Jun 2014)


maybe the dual-core ones will not receive w10

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:47 3

11. PiXel1225 (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 May 2014)


I don't think that, since Lumia 435 is a dual core WP and will get (according to the blog post) the Windows 10 upgrade. You can't upgrade a Cortex-A7 dual core phone and leave behind every single Cortex-A15 (Lumia 820/920/1020 etc) dual core.
I think that phones which will not get the update at all are only some carrier-locked ones. And as for the "not every phone will support all possible Windows 10 features" it's simple; you can't hope to get a Lumia 620 which will support split screen multitasking, or a Lumia 920 which will record 2K video. It's simple as that!

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 13:28 1

17. juandante (Posts: 462; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


The thing, and we all know it, is far more complicated and well call this money politics.

There is absolutely NO NEED to update an old device like a 920 to W10.

Hacks showed that WP8.1 could run on very old hardware thus the WP7 phones where not updated.

We know that the only devices that will receive the update is 2014 ones and very very few 2013 ones.

Stop believing those jokes.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 16:14

23. PiXel1225 (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 May 2014)


"Hacks showed"
What hacks? When WP8/8.1 was hacked and ported to WP7 devices? It's time for me to tell you to stop believing those jokes. WP7 devices might not get updated to WP8 because some people from Microsoft decided so, but it wasn't just the silly fact that "Microsoft doesn't want to support old hardware". Lumia 900 was only two months old when WP8 was announced back in 2012 and it was left out. I think it was the shift to the NT Kernel from Windows CE and the inability for single-core devices to smoothly run Windows Phone 8 that made them decide to drop support (because you obviously can't have a laggy Windows Phone, when one of the main aspects of the OS was its smoothness, regardless of the device and hardware). There is absolutely *no* known case where WP8 was successfully ported to a WP7 device.
Now the time is different. And above that, we are overanalyzing something that is ridiculously clear: Microsoft could and will upgrade the entire WP8/8.1 Lumia range. But when you have carriers like O2 that doesn't even approve Lumia Cyan over Lumia Black (not to mention the long lost Lumia 810 that is stuck with Lumia Amber) you can't expect Microsoft to say "Hey, all Lumia phones will be upgraded". They have to put an asterisk for those cases. Because if they don't... Well you know, some people will eventually start blaming Microsoft for not being clear from the beginning... And the story keeps going on...

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 14:21 3

21. sgodsell (Posts: 3071; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


I think it has more to do with most of the lower end WP devices with only 512mb of ram. I don't think any of those will see the full WP upgrade. Microsoft just hasn't told everyone yet. Because an older cortex-A9 is almost 40% faster then a cortex-A7, if they are both running at the same clock speed.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 19:36

27. Mercedes-Benz (Posts: 364; Member since: 18 Jan 2015)


Phones with lack of ram will not get the update

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:05

3. Lycan155 (Posts: 242; Member since: 24 Nov 2013)


I have lumia 630 do you guys think it will recieve it despite having 512 mb of ram ?

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:13

6. sip1995 (Posts: 1545; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


It will, since it's 2014 model and Microsoft has 36 months update support for every Windows phone since the WP8 era...

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 17:51 1

25. joey_sfb (Posts: 5257; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Better wait and see. No point guessing. Even when they promise an upgrade still has to see whether the update process is seamless.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:08 2

4. TimCook (banned) (Posts: 450; Member since: 23 Oct 2014)


Cmon Microsoft,

Forget about the phones.

Just bring us the Surface Pro 4,

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:49

12. milesboy5 (Posts: 175; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)


That will most likely be at the MWC

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:10

5. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1514; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


I hope that I am wrong but maybe only those Lumia smart phones phones that have 1 gig of ram will get the Windows 10 Update notice that all Microsoft branded smart phones have 1 gig of ram.The Microsoft Lumia 435, 532, and 535 all have one gig of ram. all previous 512MB Lumia smart phones may not get the total upgrade but a partial upgrade.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:36 3

7. Extraneus (Posts: 121; Member since: 02 Jun 2012)


I'm guessing all will be able to upgrade, but 512 devices will have limited features and will probably experience speed issues...

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:39 2

8. Tuga_Peter (Posts: 11; Member since: 27 Oct 2014)


I hope that the nokia lumia 925 recieve the windows 10 update.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:41 3

9. sip1995 (Posts: 1545; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


It will, don't worry....even my old Nokia Lumia 920 will receive it.....

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:45 1

10. Wiencon (Posts: 1719; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)


I'm pretty sure it will, devices with 512mb may have some problems, but if they run WP8,they should also 10. I'm sure 920/5 line and 1020 will get updated.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 11:51 1

13. Tuga_Peter (Posts: 11; Member since: 27 Oct 2014)


Microsoft says all phones with Windows Phone 8.1 will receive the new operating system. But this update refers to mobile phones with Windows 8.1 from factory or also includes those who received update for windows 8 and 8.1?

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 12:56

14. Mrmark (Posts: 262; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)


Can't they just pull a nexus5 and make a phone that works on all carriers ... Except Verizon w

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 13:22 2

15. Phooey506 (Posts: 85; Member since: 24 Sep 2014)


Either the 520 is updated to W10 or windows phone dies. There's no either/or. The 520/521 is the most popular WP device by far. If M$ doesn't update it, then it's their #1 mistake; and they've made plenty.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 13:25 4

16. cripton805 (Posts: 1416; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


Where are all the MS fanboys coming to defend the Lumias having only 512mb of ram? I said it and said it again that as soon as they started getting features to compete with Android and Apple, that they would need more. But time and time again they came to their defense.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 13:35 2

19. robocopvn (Posts: 395; Member since: 10 Mar 2010)


same as IOS :)) It's so funny that android devices which get updated to new version of android run smoother and snappier and the IOS devices in the reverse =DDD

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 23:07

29. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


must be crying with their "superior" Lumia 520's

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 13:30 3

18. robocopvn (Posts: 395; Member since: 10 Mar 2010)


the Lumia 520 are even stronger than the newer 530. And please remember a third of Windowphone users are on the Lumia 520. Microsoft cannot lose them.

In vietnam there are alot alot alot alot people using windowphone, guess which model? 520 :))

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 13:55

20. Gemmol (Posts: 781; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


my lovely red 1520 getting upgrade, it might be the first to get the upgrade in America like the other update 8.1

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 16:35

24. jlbora23 (Posts: 14; Member since: 28 Oct 2012)


I think the smartest thing HTC could do would to make 2 variants of the Hima(M9) including a 5.0-5.2" edge to edge screen in 1080p maybe a tad bit shorter in length than the M8 and the other a 5.4-5.7" edge to edge screen with a slightly larger footprint in length and width with some extra juice to adequately supply enough to get through a full 15 hour day of moderate to heavy usage.
The smaller display device should have at least 2800-3100Omah and of course optimized for longevity, and same goes for the larger device but with at least 3500-4000mah of juice. All other specs including processor, camera, ram, and storage as well as a micro sd slot should remain the same. This way both the personal all purpose user and the entertainment buff would have viabile options.

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 23:22

30. robocopvn (Posts: 395; Member since: 10 Mar 2010)


are you drunk ? Howcome a HTC and M9 appear hear ?

posted on 22 Jan 2015, 19:00 3

26. thecorrescode (Posts: 35; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


Microsoft did it again. Before they said Windows Phone 7.5 users are eligible to upgrade to Windows 8/8.1, and poof...

posted on 23 Jan 2015, 06:59

35. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Actually no official channel said it, and it was only said once. They said it was a goal, but in the end, not enough phone supported the move. Most phones were 256mb, not 512 or 1gb...

posted on 23 Jan 2015, 03:15

32. J2DS22 (Posts: 3; Member since: 17 Jan 2015)


As long as my 1020 gets it in good its only 2wks old I just got it it better

posted on 23 Jan 2015, 05:47

34. EcoCare (Posts: 357; Member since: 30 Jul 2014)


Huh. Another false hope by Microsoft.

I was really hoping W10 will blow the dust out of my old Huawei W1.

posted on 24 Jan 2015, 08:55

38. hazydave (Posts: 12; Member since: 18 Nov 2014)


Well, hey, at least Microsoft isn't dumping every Phone 8 user when they move to Windows 10. Like they dumped every Phone 7 user, and are now dumping every Windows RT user. The lesson in mobile devices is that upgrades really don'don't matter that much to Microsoft. They aren't going to plan the new hardware around where the OS is going. Meanwhile, Apple does support old hardware for many years. Google doesn'doesn't always, but when you do get upgraded, it's usually faster, not slower. And new apps run on the old OS anyway, mostly, because Play Services still gets updated on very old OSs.

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