Microsoft may release preview versions of Windows and Windows Phone 9 in early 2015
1. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3213; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
I suppose if I were at Microsoft Mobile and my sales just tanked 30% in one quarter, I would be talking up some fantastical Windows 9 vaporware.
2. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
MS....they are messing up on the desktop front. Dont keep having a new version of Windows on desktops if it isnt needed. They could have really stayed on 7 til now, maybe 8.
There is a reason XP lasted so long...there really was no need for anything new til Vista came out. And say what you will...but Win 7 is Vista + Service Paks+ OS updates + tweaks.
They are treating desktops like its mobile phones....this strategy is going to come back to haunt them if they dont be careful.
WP9...this will be the real test for MS and mobile OS upgrades. If they dont have a wholesale change like from WP 7 to 8, they will be fine. If this subscription rumor for WP 9 means WP 8 users are left in the cold like WP7 users....they will constantly be in a distant 3rd place.
All I know is I hope subscription based doesnt mean constant online check ins...ala Xbox One DRM, once every 24 hour online check in policy (before the reversals)...seeing how the XBO is suffering in sales, popularity....bringing that to mobile phones might be the death march for WP.
9. vincelongman (Posts: 1284; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Desktop has always been in Windows 8
Windows 8.1 Update 1 has simplified and made 8.1 even more mouse friend
I don't get bandwagon of hating Windows 8.1, sure many of the new features are more designed for touchscreens, but those features weren't Windows 7 either
Just set it to boot to desktop, disable hot corners, and install a start menu and its basically Windows 7
Windows 8.1 is better than Windows 7 in basically every way, except maybe messy setting and Aero (the glass theme) removed
10. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3213; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
As you mentioned Windows 8.1 settings are terrible. Windows 8.1 also forces a lot more integration with Microsoft services on users. Some of it is escapable, some of it is not.
Windows 7 was the last version of Windows that was about the users, the customers. Windows 8 marked the beginning of a new era, where the OS is totally designed for Microsoft's goals.
17. elitewolverine (Posts: 1693; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
You mean like every major OS out there?
What can you not escape? Please let us know what you have to have in windows 8 that you cannot escape ms
23. sgodsell (Posts: 1284; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
How do I remove IE? How can I make another browser take advantage of the OS for both speed and function? How can I change the UI or add to the UI? Oh that's right you can't.
24. milesboy5 (Posts: 153; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)
Every OS is now revolved around who makes them. The latest OSX requires an apple ID to operate or even android which requires you to create a google account. Sure Bing is going to be the preinstalled search engine along with all the other Bing services, those can be deleted just like any other bloatware. Windows is not the first OS designed with promoting the maker's other products.
26. sgodsell (Posts: 1284; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Microsoft leaks info to say see we are going to update. See everyone we are updating. No features yet, because we have to see what Google and Apple are going to put in their OS's. That way we can put the same stuff in WP 9.
19. Liveitup (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Windows Phone sales did not tank 30% , Nokia sales fell 30% which included its feature phones and Asha phones. Samsung also saw a decline as well as other Android OEM's. The larger story is that WP grew YOY tremendously.
25. sgodsell (Posts: 1284; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Wrong. WP sales declined in Q4 2013. Then in Q1 2014 Nokia's sales were down 30%. Also in Q1 2014 Nokia started to sell Nokia X devices. Also others have reported (IDC, Gartner) that WP sales have declined. Also the EU5 which was a WP strong hold have shown that WP declined in Europe by 20% for Q1 2014.
4. ihavenoname (Posts: 1424; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
How do you know it's going to get WP9? WP7 devices only got lame 7.8 update and now they are 100% forgotten. So in Microsoft logic, your 1520 will get WP8.9.
6. vipervoid123 (Posts: 127; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Microsoft promised 5 years support for WP 8 above devices ~
7. akki20892 (Posts: 3550; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
It means buddy, ms will support version 8 or etc. for 5 years so means they will only give updates that version 8 hardware capable, if not than 8.9 or capable than 9.
12. aniqtheboyz (Posts: 5; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
because Windows Phone 7 using Windows CE and Windows Phone 8 using the latest software named Windows NT which can support the latest processors like Snapdragon 800
15. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2038; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
This is Microsoft dude, not Google or Samsung.
16. brrunopt (Posts: 520; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
for the 999999999th time ; WP7 devices didnt got WP8 because Microsoft changed the kernel from CE to NT (the one used in all Windows).
11. nlbates66 (Posts: 301; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
Windows phone 8 devices get software and security updates until 2017 or so, I'd say that doesn't necessarily mean they'll see windows 9.
Even if they don't get windows 9 however, getting security updates for so long is probably still 1000x better than hoping for security updates on just about any android device on the market currently, comparing cheapest windows phone to any level of android device. (moto E is promised only a single update, from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3, said so on Motorolas own website)
8. Odiin (Posts: 269; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
It seems everything is speeding up in MS camp. Good news n hope good days are ahead. Eagerly waiting.
14. jojon (Posts: 90; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)
It's all happening. All the MS/N doubters, did you all think that MS/N was just here to play around? They are here for the long haul, one foot in front of the other, but each step is getting bigger, phones and tablets, it won't stop. They will not stop until they are right up there breathing on the necks of IOS and Google. Remember that old expression, a sleeping giant has been awakened, well awakened it is. To all the true believers, sit back and enjoy the ride
34. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3556; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Very, very, very well said, my friend.. Very well said!
18. GreekGeek (Posts: 841; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
Just get rid of that damn ugly tile interface.
It is a proven fact that people despise it.
22. chocowii (Posts: 327; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)
I love tiles! Icons are for Android and iOS. When you see a tiled screen you know its a Windows. When you see an icon screen thats another story.
29. papss (unregistered)
Nope... What needs to go are the lame grid icon
30. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 802; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)
How is it a proven fact exactly..?
I side with chocowii as well, tile interface works for me.
20. Liveitup (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
No its not a proven fact, On the mobile front everyone from HTC one with its clone Blinkfeed, BB active frames, Samsung Magazine UX, Tizen homescreen, Huawei Emotion UI homescreen, Xperia Z homescreen that even have the Tiles flipping over just like on WP live Tiles proves that Icons are dying and Tiles are the flatter more modern homescreen.
28. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I guess if you repeat it enough times....you hope, believe its true huh.
Tiles, Cards were in use before WP came out....I guess since Palm, WebOS isnt around anymore....they are getting dismissed. Or Sony's Panel UI from years ago isnt used anymore it gets overlooked.
31. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 802; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)
Don't get me wrong... I love WebOS, but what tile interface was there that I missed?
32. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I should have put a slash between Tiles and Cards. Sometimes Liveitup says Tiles, sometimes he says Cards....I just try to cover all bases.
33. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 802; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)
Alright I feel you. I agree. But tiles and cards (for multitasking) are two separate things... and live tiles MAKE the WP experience and is sorta unrelated to multitasking and "card" that all platforms borrowed from WebOS.
21. djripster (Posts: 126; Member since: 10 Dec 2011)
If a subscription based Windows can get me free devices, I maybe all in :)
27. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Ahh...I didnt think about this.....cheaper, free phones. Since they are a business....I dont see it happening or the subscription could be high.
But it would be nice.