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MSNerd confirms all Windows Phones getting Apollo, Nokia in charge of most things chipset and camera

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MSNerd confirms all Windows Phones getting Apollo, Nokia in charge of most things chipset and camera
MSNerd, who's had many a spot-on leaks about Microsoft's plans before, despite not being an employee, confirmed once again that WP 8 aka Apollo, will be coming to each and every handset.

Microsoft is supposedly aiming for a Mango-like release across the board, but some of Apollo's features will be exclusive to the third generation Windows Phones, which will be mostly built around Qualcomm's MSM8960 multicore LTE platofrm. Not that we expected the 1st gen to all of a sudden start capturing 1080p video after the update, but it's reassuring that everyone will be getting their taste of Apollo in some way.

MSNerd also hinted that in the US carriers are the biggest obstacles to quick and all-encompassing mobile OS upgrades, something that doesn't surprise us, as we've heard it so many times from Android makers as well.

Amidst the treasure trove of information that MSNerd is divulging in his ongoing Q&A session on Reddit we encountered this little gem about Nokia's ever-growing role in Microsoft's next mobile OS version work:
[–]tomassplatch 1 point 2 days ago

are there any plans of making the WP more "open" in Apollo? Like enabling USB connection, using it with Linux, more personnalisation (setting default apps)? Do you have any information on this? What is Nokia's role in designing the WP8?

[–]MSnerd[S] 1 point 1 day ago

Yes. For instance, WP becomes a "true Microsoft platform", like the Xbox & WoA(8) & you'll see Windows Phone Companion in lieu of Zune desktop client.
Nokia's role is in defining chipset support (beyond Qualcomm), designing the camera-to-software interaction model, antenna & battery design, languages & regional services, etc.
So these might be valid rumors that Nokia might use chipsets other than Snapdragon for its upcoming Windows Phones, and that it will be put in charge of the things it does better than Microsoft with phones, like the camera modules interface, antenna design and regional customization. 

Turns out we might indeed see the PureView Pro camera technology in a Windows Phone reincarnation, after all, just as Nokia hinted last month at the MWC expo.

source: MSNerd (Reddit) via WMPU

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posted on 22 Mar 2012, 07:05 8

1. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


cant wait to see what nokia brings to the table when its set free. Now, will nokia have to share some of the tech with the other WP7 handset makers, or is it going to stay nokia exclusives (other than the camera which i assume will always be exclusive)?

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 09:34

5. thelegend6657 (unregistered)


If all wp7 handsets will get apollo then i really should buy a lumia 800 now . BTW remixfa you had a HD7 what do you think of that ? Last time i went to a HTC store during november last year the HD7 was selling like dirt cheap around 1200 Ringgit which is about 400USD unlocked

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 07:06

2. PimpStrong (Posts: 310; Member since: 25 Jul 2011)


This wreaks of fragmentation. Better start planning on replacing that year old Windows Phone of yours already.

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 10:46 2

9. PimpStrong (Posts: 310; Member since: 25 Jul 2011)


4 thumbs down?

"some of Apollo's features will be exclusive to the third generation Windows Phones, which will be mostly built around Qualcomm's MSM8960 multicore LTE platofrm"

"in the US carriers are the biggest obstacles to quick and all-encompassing mobile OS upgrades"

Does this NOT smell like fragmentation in the making?

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 13:38 1

11. -box- (Posts: 3571; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


I'd give you a thumbs up if you'd spelled "reeks" correctly.

You can "wreak" havok.
A garbage dump "reeks"

You got a thumbs up on your reply from me though because it had justification for your statements.

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 13:00 4

10. Karan_Malhotra (Posts: 27; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


Now 5 thumbs down....and this includes mine also.

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 00:29 2

14. snowgator (Posts: 3160; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


When ALL devices will get the upgrade, but will be adjusted to that handsets capabilities, and you pull out the fragmentation card, yeah you will get thumbs down. (Not from me. I save my thumbs down for people who insult somone else. I only disagree with ya, pimp.)

Fragmentation has become way to common of a phrase. I define it as a seperation so large in an OS that upgrades and/or firmware support cannot be used from one device to another due to it's hardware or software limitations. Purely as an example: Any honest cell phone enthusist will agree when Froyo came out for Android, the upgrades for existing handsets were so fragmented that the term "bricking" was used in the same sentence as "upgrades" more often than not.

This upgrade will come to every existing handset, and the first gen devices will have a version which, hopefully, will not brick nothing. (Double negative. Way to jinx them.) That is not fragmentation. Neither is not releasing an update to a device to old and underpowered to handle it. Which is not the case here, but certainly will when the next upgrade comes after WP8. 1st gen devices surely will not get that.

By the way, by my own definition I don't think Android is that fragmented any more. I am betting ICS devices being released this year will make that term dated, and Jellybean updates will come to the vast majority. Maybe a good portion of Gingerbread devices may be fragmented, but every generation Android gets better.

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 09:02 1

3. Jericho (Posts: 302; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Love the news would also love to see sony making a windows phone and as far as fragmentation goes i think thats not a big problem as people have made it look. PC's were and still are fragmented but nothing stoped it from becoming the most used operating system on the PLANET!!!. though i am not so sure about windows 8 on PC's it looks more like an OS for tablets. And i dont think Nokia should get exclusive things in Apollo cause that will be bad for business for Microsoft.

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 13:41

12. -box- (Posts: 3571; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


...I wouldn't say that PC OSes are fragmented, just that there are different levels of performance and features for different users. For instance, I have Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, but I use all of its features. My fiance's netbook came with Windows 7 Starter, and we upgraded it to Home Premium, because Starter didn't have enough features to suit her needs
As long as you have the components to meet the minimum requirements, the computer will run it. That being said, apple's OS X does offer some fragmentation because their components are extremely specific

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 09:31 1

4. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Glad to see the development moving forward.
So remixfa, after SG3 are you planning to get a true Windows Phone 8?

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 09:52 7

6. codymws (Posts: 236; Member since: 17 Jun 2010)


That's why I love Windows Phone. My first-generation WP handset will have the latest version of the OS. This will never happen on iOS or Android.

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 20:07 2

13. nwright94 (unregistered)


I made the mistake of upgrading to a Samsung Focus, then the next generation Mango phones were announced right after my 30 day trial ended, so I was scared my Focus would be left in the cold but this made me glad I got a Windows Phone that WILL get the newest update compared to one of the other android phones that were available at the time and being stuck on gingerbread.

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 10:12 1

7. naveenstuns (Posts: 159; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)


now I will get a lumia 800.

posted on 22 Mar 2012, 10:18 4

8. Penny (Posts: 991; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


I'm glad to hear that all WP7 phones will be getting Apollo, so I won't be forced to buy new hardware off contract just to get the same Windows Phone experience as others.

On the downside, I wonder what features specifically are not going to be available to first generation WP7 phones. If it is just missing features related to its lack of hardware capabilities (front facing camera, 1080p-capable processor, etc.), then I am perfectly fine with that. Just don't cut out features for the sake of cutting out features.

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 04:00 1

15. 7thspaceman (Posts: 902; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


I am Glad to hear this because it shows that microsoft is truly committed to making the
Windows smart phones great with a windows 8 upgrade that is specific to each Windows
7 series smart phone that has already been sold. for those who already have a Windows 7,5 mango smart phone that is a sigh of release it means their smart phone is
not going to be obsolete. My kudos to microsoft for doing this

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