Julian Assange speaks up about Google conspiracy: 'doing stuff the government and CIA can't do'
Assange spoke via live video at the 19th International Symposium on Electronic Art revealing connections between Google and the State Department.
Not too long ago, Google’s senior management represented by Eric Schmidt and Jared Cohen met with Assange to interview him for their new book “The New Digital Age: Re-shaping the Future of People, Nations and Business.” But that was only a covert motive, according to the WikiLeaks founder.
"Google wants to ingratiate itself in the national security complex of the US and [establish] itself as a new geopolitical visionary. You might think this meeting is evidence that the big boys at Google are secretly on the side of WikiLeaks. That's not true; they have a much more complex agenda."
Assange revealed that after the meeting Schmidt and Cohen had allegedly reported at the highest level instead of using the material for just their book.
So what is Google’s role in all this? The WikiLeaks founder says there is a tight bond between the search behemoth and the State Department as Google is "doing stuff the government and CIA can't do".
"At this level of American society, it's all musical chairs," he stressed. Assange also spoke about the free and humane roots of Google, but claims the company has changed radically as it has grown larger.
source: ISEA via The Register
1. maxican16 (Posts: 363; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
Really?? Sounds a little lofty for a tech company. This is nothing more than fear mongering. Who is the one with the hidden agenda?
6. maxican16 (Posts: 363; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
It's good to not rule anything out I guess. And this coming out in the open and from Assange, it might even illicit a response from the top of Google.
No one would stay with Google if this were true though. It would violate their privacy statement and severely threaten their chief source of revenue (user based ads). The connection is pretty loose.. to assume Google have a political agenda because Assange claims the interview was discussed with the government?
IDK.. still not sure who's got the hidden agenda.
16. tbacba (Posts: 57; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Given that Assange is a self serving, misogynist lying POS, I couldn't care less what he thinks.
18. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
Why trust him though?
This sounds more like a grab for publicity or here-say then fact. I'm starting to think Assange just likes being in the headlines and stirring the pot more than exposing corruption and misuse of power. He's sortof turning into the Harvey Levin of corporate/government espionage.
11. loyals (Posts: 129; Member since: 10 Nov 2012)
"At this level of American society, it's all musical chairs,"
"doing stuff the government and CIA can't do"
does this say google is controlling/manipulating american society(most) virtually , which govt n CIA can't ?!!
or are they involved in Electronic money conspiracy ?
one thing is for sure from assange words...using n trusting go0gle with information is not safe
24. rusticguy (Posts: 2820; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
It has never been safe handing out your information to anyone ... anyone as large as google is now. They are an American company on American soil so all the data that they have at their disposal can be used by American "secret services" (or PRISM/CUBE/RECTANGLE whatever the project is codenamed as) whenever they want. It would be foolish to presume that Google would be thinking in interest of privacy of end users. It's bull cr@p and Julian is right. This is why an alternate mobile platform outside of US is needed.
Even this cncept of Cloud Storage is nothing but Espionage. We are fools to feel elated at pushing our data on cloud just because we get so called FREE storage. There's no FREE LUNCH. Nothing is free and everything has a cost.
7GB for free email on gmail? Who pays for all the storage/bandwidth? Ads? Ads that i never clicked? Even when you delete mails there's no guaranty that it gets deleted from everywhere :)
13. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Corporations never lie, right? It's not like hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue would ever corrupt their noble spirits. Assange is a criminal, and must be silenced..
21. frmrVZguy (Posts: 37; Member since: 10 Mar 2012)
@ maxican16 for "still not sure"
For your thought calculus: When presenting a proper court order to the telco, Feds pay a telco "per page" for data whether it is text or call records or otherwise.
Now regarding 'cloud services': do cloud services make more $$ from your subscription or from the Fed payments "per page" for data?
Remember the KIN? When users saw the cloud timeline presentation of their entire life forcibly synched/recorded to the cloud suite aka Kin Studio it was far too obvious what MS was up to. The junk hardware pushed it the final inch over the edge.
23. madpiyal (Posts: 108; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
You might have not fully understood about PRISM. Because Google is already violating privacy statement but they are not miking it because it will lead to their collapse as you said. Beside the Govt. is with them so why not take advantage. It just that we are not as well informed as Mr. Assange is.
When a person like him says something about Government and agendas (cause most of the time we know nothing about govt scandals & corruptions and they are the whistle blowers) you should know its true.
5. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Really? If it was Apple or Microsoft, I bet you'd say it isn't surprising for them to do so, considering they are corrupt, anti-competitive, yada yada. Stop wearing Google/Android glasses and see the real thing.
7. maxican16 (Posts: 363; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
Would I? Huh.. good to know you know what I would do before I do. /s
14. ITEngineer (Posts: 54; Member since: 26 Mar 2013)
buddy, as much as i love google, but i think Assange is correct.
"doing stuff the government and CIA can't do"
What he means is that the US gov cannot monitor european citizens in terms of internet and phone and messaging and a bit more like locations etc..And we are not talking about just Europe, think of the bigger picture, RUSSIA, CHINA, THE REST OF THE WORLD.
Google can do that for them, and i believe they have been for some time now.
17. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1210; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
I get what you're saying, but if you think they're relying on Google's gps tracking, that's where we part ways. The government has technology that's leaps and bounds ahead of what's in the private sector, always has. While it is true that Google, cell carriers, & ISPs monitor us, it's more due to the monetary side of things. They need to know if they can bill us extra if we go over our allotted plans. They also use it for troubleshooting support. An employee could abuse that power, just as anyone you give your credit card or bank info to. Do I think Google is getting a little too big for their britches. I'm leaning that way. But I don't think they're quite up to the level of government stooge just yet.
19. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5539; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"But I don't think they're quite up to the level of government stooge just yet."
Except the briefing slides that were leaked by Snowden identified Google as one of what - 9 stooges? And then there is the 'denial' that was a carbon-copy of the denials that were released by the other 8 stooges.
They are all in the pocket of the Feds. If they refused, they would simply be shut down. They have no choice.
2. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
this is from assange.so seems legit to me
4. joey_sfb (Posts: 2585; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
conspiracy within conspiracy. nothing is real.
9. rantao333 (Posts: 194; Member since: 21 May 2013)
come on guys, google traces everything.
whats make u think that google is cleaner ?
10. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Google, you've come a long way baby...
Big brother is proud of you! Please continue to violate our personal privacy and freedom of speech/expression in the name of national security and patriotism. God bless America, and the multi-national corporations that rule it...
12. jibraihimi (Posts: 660; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
We will never know the real truth behind all this, or we will never be able to see the real face of big tech companies........
25. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 822; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
All you have to do is look at all of Google's links to In-Q-Tel to get an idea of their loyalties.
22. madpiyal (Posts: 108; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
He is 100% right. Google certainly has geopolitical vision and that's why Cohen is hired. Condoleezza Rice herself said "He would use (Jared Cohen) his position at Policy Planning to begin to integrate social media into our diplomatic tool kit." when Cohen served Secretary of State's Policy Planning.
We know how Schmidt has turned our beloved Google corp. to a evil one. And look who he is appointing as Ideas Head. Google is a tech company so you would assume its Ideas Head first interest and education background will be related as such. But let me tell you the name of some books written by Mr. Jared Cohen-- Children of Jihad: A Young American's Travels Among the Youth of the Middle East; One Hundred Days of Silence: America and the Rwanda Genocide; Iran's Passive Revolution: Is Political Resistance Dead or Alive in Iran?
Now I hope you are getting the picture (politics is Cohen's speciality). And why I think Mr. Assange is spot on.
26. Muzhhur (Posts: 240; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
not too long ago, members of Google dare to criticize what contries are doing about education, healt and work policies, They feel good to rule all of us... Shame on Google!
27. leaderpvp (Posts: 17; Member since: 26 May 2013)
This is nothing more than a guesses of Assange due to his fear/care(call it as you wish) for himself.
He did not really revealed any concrete proof. Here is just a simple concept: "Cant proof? Don't speak!"
I believe in REAL PROOFs rather than just a rumors around.