Is this LG's Nexus 5 2015 or G4 Pro? Mysterious LG device with Snapdragon 808 and 4GB RAM visits Geekbench
4. boosook (Posts: 1428; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
not true... the 808 is basically an 810 without one of the cores (so it has a dual core and a quad core instead of two quad cores), the only advantage of the removal of one of the cores is that it doesn't overheats (or, it overheats less).
6. Roshi (unregistered)
810 without 2 cores, portable oven, DDR4 support and weaker GPU. Maybe others too that I don't know. But being a portable oven is a huge problem.
28. marorun (Posts: 3366; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
Been a troll who spread propaganda is even worst.
54. j2001m (Posts: 2826; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Also no ufs support, but as lg not using it, it no big deal, but I do think the CPU is at a very low end spec inside of it with its design
15. medicci37 (Posts: 1271; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
No there's a big difference. The graphics for instance are much weaker. I wouldn't buy anything with a lesser gpu then the Sg6 I already own
22. Niva. (Posts: 418; Member since: 05 Jan 2015)
Why would you want to replace your SG6 so soon? These days phone CPUs have generally reached parity, the rest of the experience is what counts. That being said I think an underclocked SD810 is better than an 808.
45. zachki17 (Posts: 261; Member since: 14 Sep 2014)
what are talking about ...??? GS6 have the worst GPu on a flagship i have both G4 and GS6 .. Mali mp8 its not optimized .. Bugss all the time with heavy games at high graphics setting i get only 21 FPS Somtime game crash .. the oly thing that i like about the s6 is the display its note close to real life but the colors are pleasant to the eyes the G4 hass the Best GPu Perfome even better then the Adreno 430because s808 made specialy for LG devicesits the mist optimized CPU on any android Phone .. No Lag .. heavy game you got 31FPS .. norml settings 60FPS
better camera better Design with bigger display and slim bezels
LG Ux is the most costomized UI
soryy my bad english
20. jove39 (Posts: 1824; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
S810 > S808
GPU: adreno 430 > 418
Video Encode: h265 > h264
Camera: 55MP dual ISP > 21MP/8MP
Display: 4k > 2k
Memory: DDR4 (25.6GBps) > DDR3 (12.8GBps)
Storage: UFS > emmc 5.0
CPU: 4xA53 + 4xA57 > 4A53 + 2xA57
OEMs acted dumb and allowed S810 cpu cluster to go wild...they should've kept the max frequency in check and control frequency scaling aggressively. 8 cpu cores will make more heat than 6 for obvious reasons.
And as a proof... I have verified HTC One M9...it's really fast and doesn't show any overheating characteristics...I recorded 4k video for 5 mins and surface temperature was just warm...not HOT...just warm...which is due to metal body of device...aluminum dissipates heat better than plastic/glass.
EDIT: While I stand by the fact that S810 is better than S808...I personally don't like arm's big little architecture...I'd recommend people to rather wait for S820 based devices than buying S810.
29. marorun (Posts: 3366; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
This is the most logical response i ever saw about the SD810.
Not a single customer for all Telus in canada returned a M9 for overheating..
There was a big propaganda troll war on Qualcomm initiated by Samsung.
First report of SD suposely overheating came out from Korean media this alone shoul be a good indication.
35. Macready (Posts: 857; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)
So true, Samsung was the troll that made Sony, HTC, LG and other devices overheat (and/) or throttle like mad (down to SD800 performance levels). That's really what Samsung needed because their own hardware wasn't capable on its own.
Never mind the countless in depth articles (Anandtech, Tweakers, GSMarena, etc.) showing and explaining the overheating issues in detail. The first overheating and insane throttling came from the LG Flex 2, in preliminary bench tests and in the hands of (p)reviewers. Well before any Korean media reported about it.
*insert manical laughter*
Someone is still in denial.
37. manojmcn (Posts: 419; Member since: 16 Jul 2015)
Lol, Snapdragon 810 was rejected by Samsung for S6 as it didnt meet their standards. But they never issued any statement on 810. All bad reports were hands on issues faced by reviewers on the inital batch at the time of launch. HTC did release an update to fix heating issues.
Samsung is one of the biggest clients of Qualcomm. They didn't do any unethical marketing on the media.
41. My1cent (Posts: 342; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)
Inside a modern CPU are features to prevent damage through "overheating".
In the event of cooling failure, the CPU will throttle then shut down beyond a critical temperature threshold to avoid "damage".
46. curiousDillan (Posts: 38; Member since: 26 May 2015)
How do you know no one returned one to Telus for overheating? Proof please. Anyone can make unsupported statements.
48. Noonting (Posts: 132; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)
You really think so?
How will you explain this?
10. waddup121 (unregistered)
808 all day.
25. fonelover (Posts: 194; Member since: 19 Mar 2015)
Why they r giving 4 gb rams to sd808? Just for gimmicks?
3. bangkoktomboy (Posts: 35; Member since: 29 Jun 2015)
I don't know why nexus phones are usually pricey in my country. Not to mention the availability which is so poor. Google needs to do something about this. There are many fans who prefer stock UI rather than OEMs UI, including me.
8. Ruturaj (Posts: 1294; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)
If lg G4 pro has SD 808, it will have same fate as G4. Also if LG is not going for SD820 on LG g4 pro, it won't go for nexus as well. Huawai nexus, here I come.
39. boosook (Posts: 1428; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
you don't need an SD820 for a phone with "just" a fullhd screen... the nexus 5 is still fast and smooth, and it has an sd800! What's more, a Nexus has a lighter firmware than a samsung, an htc, a sony etc. A phone with stock android, 1080p screen, sd808 and 3 or 4 gb of ram would be super fast and affordable.
40. Ruturaj (Posts: 1294; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)
Yep, It would be fast and more than a user needs, but I want QHD because of VR, 3 or 4 gb RAM is ok with me. I would still go for SD 820, as it would be more future proof.
53. osbert (Posts: 125; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
EDIT: Deleted, misread what you were saying.
9. emcdonald75 (Posts: 69; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)
Why can't Qualcomm give the Snapdragon 808 the Adreno 430 GPU? That would at least give the phone better graphics support. I wonder if the Adreno 430 GPU is the cause for the overheating and not the CPU.
17. wargreymon (Posts: 678; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)
I think it's more the 20nm process it's on that makes both SD808 and SD810 eat battery and become hot, even if SD808 isn't as bad as SD810.
30. marorun (Posts: 3366; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
The reason for overheating is stock Arm core and big little architecture.
Galaxy S6 evaded part of the problem by using 14 nm wich lower heat produced.
Still i had several samsung S6 edge comming back with overheating.
Its was also proven thats its trottle a lots when doing gaming for a long time and performance are reduced ( yes less than the SD810 )
38. miket1737 (Posts: 2381; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)
Wrong, PA did a test recently on SoC throttling and the Exynos 7420 throttles less then the snapdragon 810. Snapdragon 810 throttles over 50% while the exynos 7420 throttles in the 40% range only, snapdragon 810 at times can offer performance worse then the Snapdragon 805 which is pretty sad.
And the reason for overheating on S810 and overheating on the 7420 is more then just manufacturing node. Samsung has the CCI interface link clocked down lower then the CCI interconnect is in the 810(samsung did mulitple optimizations on their own end to optimize a57/53 by adjusting memory registers, adjusting CCI interconnect speed to their likings, etc etc)
Two extremely good, very detailed articles on modern SoCs and also a deep dive into the 7420, which is more then just being on a 14nm node
42. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
Nope pa don't do s**t Just reshare an article wrote by someone else and i should mention that you can't make your phone get to a critical temperature to result in reduced performance that easily or at all.
50. Noonting (Posts: 132; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)
Then why the hell do GN4 has lower heat than HTC M9?
11. zenithar (Posts: 2; Member since: 01 Mar 2015)
Not a single world about the real Nexus we all want, lulz. Little phone fanboys, smdh.
12. manojmcn (Posts: 419; Member since: 16 Jul 2015)
I feel the Android phone makers are hugely screwed up by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 debacle. The 808 cannot help any flagship, the LG G4 lacklusture sales prove that. This is one are where Samsung is clever. Seems the S6/S6 edge is going to get a free run for a few more months before any real competition from other Android flagships. But by then Note 5 & S6 edge+ may be the one to beat.
21. Mreveryphone (Posts: 459; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)
The 808 has nothing to do with the lackluster sales of the g4... The general public has no clue that the 808 has two less cores than the 810... The g4 really isn't that much of a upgrade from the g4....There's where the lackluster sales come from
26. manojmcn (Posts: 419; Member since: 16 Jul 2015)
Public may not check the model numbers, but bad performance surely hurts. Thats why Exynos 7 has made a mockery of Snapdragon 810 & 808. The feedback has damaged the sales of HTC One M9 & LG G4. No phone sells merely by looks.
31. marorun (Posts: 3366; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
There is nothing bad about performance of the G4 lol
Its all question of marketing and propaganda an when you have lots of money ( samsung , apple ) you can trash about other and create issue where there is none.
Did you know thats in Canada not a single HTC M9 was returned athe provider Telus for overheating or performance problems?
IF there is issue why not a single return for thas supposed issue?
34. manojmcn (Posts: 419; Member since: 16 Jul 2015)
There is nothing bad but there is nothing to hype as a flagship performance. Check the battery tests for LG G4 & HTC One M9, the figures are worse than S6.
HTC had to release an update to solve the overheating issue at the time of launch. The initial bad feedback ruined its fate.
13. surethom (Posts: 609; Member since: 04 Mar 2009)
Cant wait to upgrade my nexus 5, lets hope the new nexus 5 has much much better battery life, but still have wireless charging.
16. medicci37 (Posts: 1271; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
Thanks in part to Qualcomm 2015 has been a sh*t year for flagships.
18. miket1737 (Posts: 2381; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)
My note 4 on 5.0.1 (snapdragon 805 version) gets higher scores then this on Geekbench 3..... I get 1104 single core score and 3489 multi core score with snapdragon 805
47. zachki17 (Posts: 261; Member since: 14 Sep 2014)
benchmarks is gimmick samsung Cheat on benchmark ..
19. V1nC3 (Posts: 106; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
Korean version of the G4 Pro, international one could have a S820.
23. jeroome86 (Posts: 886; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
Disappointed with that single core test. Seems this late in the year should be getting something better. Guess wait see what final product gets. I would like to see Nexus compete more with ios.
32. marorun (Posts: 3366; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
Google would have to put as much marketing money as Apple for several year to build up the same brand recognition ( In my eye its idiot to buy stuff for brand but sadly thats how majority of ppl base there purchase )
Even if the product is MUCH better its the one who is better presented and with the best marketing and brand recognition thats will always sell more.
49. manojmcn (Posts: 419; Member since: 16 Jul 2015)
People have higher expectation on Nexus sales numbers than what Google has. Nexus is merely a reference model and I don't think Google will ever compete with Android manufacturers on sales. Most of the time the nexus seen as sold out is due to the very little number of units that Google plans, not coz the manufacturers like LG or motorola not producing enough.
33. .KRATOS. (Posts: 309; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
Hope not I want a nexus 5 with snapdragon 820
36. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
Haha this should be the nexus 5 and the top of the antutu should be the LG g4 pro cause G4 pro should have more horsepower then this is nexus 5.
43. miket1737 (Posts: 2381; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)
snapdragon 820 SoC will be pretty sweet, their cognitive "thinking" platform Zeroth is gonna be on board, and it does some pretty dope stuff on local hardware with no need for cloud. some powerful stuff coming our way regardless
56. yoosufmuneer (Posts: 1498; Member since: 14 Feb 2015)
My bet would be LG G4 Pro. LG Nexus 5 wouldn't come with 4GB of RAM if there is another bigger Huawei Nexus on the way.