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ITC judge rules that Samsung has infringed on three Apple patents, might lead to product bans

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ITC judge rules that Samsung has infringed on three Apple patents, might lead to product bans
Now here is an unpleasant development for Samsung in its patent fight against Apple - an ITC judge ruled that the Koreans are infringing on several patents held by Cupertino.

Judge Thomas Pender ruled that Samsung has stepped upon Apple's patented turf regarding the design of the iPhone, its touchscreen technologies and for connecting headphones.

The ITC has the power to block Samsung imports in the US if the ruling is confirmed by the other judges on the panel, which won't be until February. 

In the meantime, Samsung issued a statement saying that the decision might diminish choices and raise prices for consumers, and that: "We will continue to take all appropriate measures to ensure the availability of our innovative products for American consumers."

source: WSJ

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posted on 25 Oct 2012, 02:26 18

1. ScottSchneider (Posts: 312; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)


F*apple.... o_0

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:01 3

8. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3223; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Sure blame Apple for protecting their property

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:07 16

10. Nocturne (Posts: 24; Member since: 21 May 2012)


Protecting your property is fine.

Trying to stifle innovation isn't.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 05:23

28. Hemlocke (unregistered)


What "innovation" is involved when you are infringing upon the IP of another company! Protecting your IP does the exact opposite of "stifling innovation."you are forced to either pay for doing something a certain way, or you find another way to do it. If it was not protected and it was a good method, companies would just use it for free and skip figuring out a better way to do it.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 08:30 1

36. CDGMobile (Posts: 29; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


You say this as if Samsung isnt already making new products despite these bans and injunctions, its just that Apple keeps a tent in the courtroom and a sleeping bag on deck for every release date that Samsung or other major competition has, how much longer can we look at the news board and see that once again Apple has claimed that someone has stolen their patent (lets not forget they steal patents too) and then those products get banned, then those products are unbanned and the circle of death continues

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 08:49 3

37. -box- (Posts: 3709; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


@Hemlocke: Xerox, the "inspriation" for the original macintosh. LG Prada, various Sony designs, and other generic designs: "inspriation" for iphone. Dieter Rams' designs for Braun: "inspriation" for pretty much everything coming out of apple since jobs' return which continues until now. Mitsubishi and others: "inspiration" for multitouch. Rio & other MP3 players: "inspiration" for ipod. Windows tablets and other tablet designs, as well as the concept of a thin interactive device (like a clipboard or writing pad): "inspiration" for ipad. Apple hasn't come up with anything actually new or innovative in years, if ever. Stop fooling yourself. You're a poison, as is your name.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 13:58

45. networkdood (Posts: 6247; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Taco is that you?

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:30 3

18. rusticguy (Posts: 2819; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


One property was recently declared as stolen so to say ... bounce scroll was it?

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:33 2

20. ScottSchneider (Posts: 312; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)


Some dogs always bark but never bite... The same way Apple's only gonna throw law suits at everyone instead of innovating good products... We are all here for better innovation technology for our tomorrow... Stopping it is like eating pure Bull$h!t...

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:13 7

14. Jelly_Bean (Posts: 109; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)


Do whatever you want to do Apple, King will always be the King.

And you know what, Don't even think that you can come even near to the technology what Samsung and Google has.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 04:51

25. syedzain (Posts: 174; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Lol Google is supporting sam**** .. but apple they are doing their own OS.....

U know LG Is making Nexus 2.. and i like i-phones much , but i hate SAM****. Nexus 2 will rock... ( As LG is producing it )

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 02:29 2

2. mas11 (Posts: 1026; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


What are the devices in question? Are the the ones from the trial and if so who cares? It's not like any of them are new.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 02:40

5. MeoCao (unregistered)


GNex, S2 are involved but not S3

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:36 1

22. nicholassss (Posts: 348; Member since: 10 May 2012)


As long as I can get my note 2 :3

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 02:34 4

3. rusticguy (Posts: 2819; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Feb is too long away ... 4 months is a big time in Android world :)
Apple can keep doing this and get nothing out of it except more sales for Samsung ...

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:34 1

21. nicholassss (Posts: 348; Member since: 10 May 2012)


Wrong button. Ment to reply above you. Can you delete? Haha

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 02:38 8

4. Retro-touch (Posts: 248; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


What I don't understand is why Samsung are getting a beating only in American courts yet those same law suits go very differently in Asia and Europe?????

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 02:42 6

6. rusticguy (Posts: 2819; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Jingoism prevails over principle of natural justice. Nothing uncomon. What needs to be seen is how many politicians hold huge stocks of Apple ... :)

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:02 1

9. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3223; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Bias and those countries don't believe in fair justice

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:29 4

17. rusticguy (Posts: 2819; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Yes America protects culprit of one of the worst Industrial disasters in world. Do you know who? If not go back to school :)

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 04:09 1

23. tedkord (Posts: 4275; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You just described the American trial perfectly. Throw in retard with an agenda, and you've also nailed the jury foreman.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 13:59

46. networkdood (Posts: 6247; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


fair justice in America? Do some research you sound ignorant...

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:24

15. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 242; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


It's because Apple's patents are so broad that it's really just a matter of opinion if someone is infringing or not.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 08:53

38. -box- (Posts: 3709; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


"Home field advantage", even though apple doesn't pay taxes in the US nor does it have any manufacturing jobs here. Samsung does both.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 10:44 1

43. xtremesv (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


The problem within US political system is lobbying, a subtle way to bribe politicians. In the States is acceptable that large companies “donate” big amounts of money to gain political favors. I don’t know but Apple with its endless bank account (almost as big as the US federal government’s) may do wonders. For the record, I’m not accusing anyone, Apple could sue me and they really excel at that.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 14:00

47. networkdood (Posts: 6247; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


BINGO!!!!

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 02:48 8

7. Topcat488 (Posts: 1112; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Please Samsung, make Apple remove LTE from their products... This patent has nothing to do with FRAND, the iphone5 will run perfectly on 3G networks... Please don't let them off the hook on this one... Thank You in Advance.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 08:54

39. -box- (Posts: 3709; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that lawsuit. Disappointed there hasn't been anything more on it

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:08 11

11. Savage (unregistered)


Who cares. Its not as if this is gonna boost Apple sales. As time passes, Apple's new devices are getting lamer and lamer.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:09 5

12. rcwfox2002 (Posts: 41; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)


Why is it only U.S. courts that side with Apple just shameful.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 04:23 1

24. kamejoko (Posts: 106; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)


Because U.S. courts eat money from apple.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:11 6

13. nobelset (Posts: 268; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


Nokia, samsung and Motorola are companies that are really old and respected :(

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:27 5

16. ddeath (Posts: 154; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)


Because Apple is a US company, that is why. They gotta protect their own economy. Thus only Apple can sell black rectangles with rounded corners, the most ridiculous patent in the world.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 03:32 2

19. ddeath (Posts: 154; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)


Funny thing is I've been banned from posting and voting because of whatever reasons I also don't know, when I'm using my mobile to surf to this website. Maybe I crap Apple and USPTO too much on their ridiculous patents and no one wants to face it. But I'm still able to post on the PC. Oh well. :p

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 04:53

26. syedzain (Posts: 174; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Guys these are just PHONES ......

Just chill out and use what ever u like..

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 05:44 3

29. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


Coming from someone who admits they hate Samsung and slates it defending apple

Why pretend to act all neutral when your just like most of the others, you have a undeserved sense of superiority

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 06:25 3

31. rusticguy (Posts: 2819; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Superiority Complex is a psychological state of existence emnating from a sense of inferiority ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 06:55 1

32. syedzain (Posts: 174; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Lol. I hate samsung NOT android. And guys like u, just troll on the internet and also why hate something that doesnt even benefit u. Hmmm, i think u lost ur mind lol

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 07:02 1

33. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


Lmao why hate something that doesn't even benefit you............yet you blindly hate Samsung and how's that benefiting you then.

You apple fans are all the same slaging people for exactly what they do themselves but in your eyes your allowed because you think you have more right.......you dont.

Nah i havent lost my mind but atleast i have one to loose

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 12:23 2

44. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Lol. (I HATE SAMSUNG NOT ANDROID.) And guys like u, just troll on the internet and also (WHY HATE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EVEN BENEFIT U.) Hmm, i think u lost ur mind lol.

You realize what you did here??? Make a statement one sentence.. and the VERY NEXT ONE.. you contradict it. lol.. you must have lost your mind.. ;)

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 04:58 3

27. someones4 (Posts: 618; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


Apple will burn under everyone's hatred.
I really wish samsung has a really good answer for all this. "we'll make our own patent office, with hookers and blackjack"

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 08:56

40. -box- (Posts: 3709; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Using a Bender quote: You win 1000 internets!

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 06:01 2

30. Cyberchum (Posts: 248; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


If cr@pple really wants to protect their patent (do they really have one?) they should licence like Nokia, Microsoft et cetera do and not stifle competition like they do. It should be busy competing with itself 'cos i haven't seen a real innovation from the bitten fruit since the first iphone ( that is if you don't count gimmicks). All in all, US licence office is to blame.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 07:10 1

34. Zayuh24 (Posts: 148; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


"Judge Thomas Pender ruled that Samsung has stepped upon Apple's patented turf regarding the design of the iPhone, its touchscreen technologies and for connecting headphones"

Ok, design patents, I can see (although it seems total BS to be able to patent a shape) but touchscreen patents and "connecting headphones" are allowed?! Somebody please tell me what kind of stuff the patent office is smoking to let this slide

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 07:20 5

35. Aeires (unregistered)


Meanwhile, in a Dutch court Samsung was found to not be infringing on Apple's patents.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 10:29 2

41. BREvenson (Posts: 204; Member since: 17 May 2012)


Patents for "the design of the iPhone, its touchscreen technologies and for connecting headphones"...all three things that Apple did not create, but since they have the paperwork, they get all the credit and can sue anyone else who uses that technology. This is an injustice of the highest caliber, and the biggest reason why I hate Apple with a passion.

There is no logic or fairness involved in the US patent system, and because of that, Apple is the most powerful force in the business world...and it's complete bull.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 10:42 1

42. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yet, they completely ignore the story that came out yesterday that a judge in another panel told Apple to go to heck basically.

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 14:02

48. networkdood (Posts: 6247; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


You mean that bounce scroll story?

posted on 26 Oct 2012, 00:00

49. pliskin1 (Posts: 59; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


They got a patent for connecting a headphone? I'm pretty sure every company and product that has a 3.5mm jack uses the same technologies. I'm so sick of this patent war BS.

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