Apple wins an appellate court ruling, might force Samsung to nix UI features from its older phones

Apple wins an appellate court ruling, might force Samsung to nix UI features from its older phones
The Apple-Samsung courthouse saga is far from over. The two giants have been battling each other in court rooms for a long, long time, each scoring a few wins and losses in different courts across the globe, but in the grand scale of things, we can't pinpoint a definite winner or loser. 

It seems that Apple has scored a new victory over its prominent rival. With a ruling of 2-1, the US appelate court has decided that Samsung has infringed on some of Apple's patents by equipping some of its older Galaxy smartphones and tablets with a certain set of features that have been patented and exclusively used on Apple's iPhones, causing sales-based harm. Provided that Samsung doesn't remove the features from its devices, it will be banned from selling them.

The appeals court says that Judge Lucy Koh, who found that Samsung should pay a substantial sum of money (roughly $120 million) in order to make it up to Apple for any harm it has caused, has made a mistake. The appelate courts believes Samsung should have not only compnsated Cupertino, but also removed said software features from its devices, as they have caused Apple "irreparable harm".

In particular, these are slide-to-unlock, autocorrect, and the quick links ones, which have bee found to infringe on U.S. Patent 5,946,647, 8,046,721, and 8,074,172. Some of the devices that are being affected by the court ruling are older devices like Samsung's 2011 flagship, the Galaxy S2, and its 2012's S Pen-boasting Galaxy Note 2 powerhouse. As these are some pretty dated devices, they are unlikely to affect the business of the South Korea-based smartphone maker in a negative way. However, the court's ruling is rather important as it effectively opens the gates for other manufacturers to seek their rights if a rival of theirs has infringed on a certain patent.

source: USCAFC via Bloomberg

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2. sikandar201

Posts: 10; Member since: Sep 17, 2015

I wonder when this patent war between Apple and Samsung will end...

7. arch_angel

Posts: 1651; Member since: Feb 20, 2015

Never Because They Will Continue To Copy And Still Each Others Ideas. Its Almost Like Some Big Conspiracy Theory, Cause They Both Keep Paying Money For Each Others Ideas And Features, Its Their Way Of Sharing Without Others Finding Out LOL.

35. sikandar201

Posts: 10; Member since: Sep 17, 2015

lol true that..

43. FluffyBled unregistered

Sorry for asking but ... why is the first letter of every word of yours capital D:?! Simple curiosity!

50. arch_angel

Posts: 1651; Member since: Feb 20, 2015

Mostly Because I Just Like It.

4. Eurethya

Posts: 29; Member since: Sep 18, 2015

Is that Google or Samsung feature? I remember my old Experia X10 had the same feature. Why only samsung then?

10. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

Cause its the biggest competitor to Apple.

5. Hallyu

Posts: 790; Member since: Jul 21, 2015

I hate that rotten fruit! Just leave Samsung alone, Cr@pple!

11. gaming64 unregistered

Both are just fighting for their own rights. I see you are defending Samsung. That's fine by me. Everyone has their own taste and my taste is Apple.

15. TerryTerius unregistered

Unless Apple is going to open up another lawsuit against Samsung for devices they are actually still making, I don't really see the point in this dragging on. Apple had one of its patents revoked, the amount has been substantially decreased and it's not like they even need the money. I'm not saying Apple shouldn't protect its patents, I just don't see how it's relevant anymore. I wish the two with coexist peacefully and call it a day. Honestly, I'm of the opinion that a lot of the patents that Apple was awarded shouldn't have been given in the first place because they are common use things. Unless Apple is going to sue Google directly, this just seems like an ongoing proxy battle with Android itself.

27. engineer-1701d unregistered

and what harm is apple getting the note size is not even in the realm of iphone 4 inch people and the slide to unlock no one could care if that was there, google should sue apple for fingerprint unlock or pull down notification that one is massive copy paste

52. Mister-Z-

Posts: 175; Member since: Sep 07, 2015

iCult, iWorshiper, iZombie, I.....

9. chri5tin3

Posts: 14; Member since: Nov 16, 2014

Auto correct can be patented?! Let alone causing "irreparable harm"? Apple needs to suck a fat dick. I don't understand how anyone can respect them.

12. TerryTerius unregistered

I wonder if Apple will ever do what it really wants to do and go after Google directly? Tim Cook supposedly wanted to end the patent wars, but that doesn't seem to have stopped. I don't get the point... Especially since this has been going on for years and now and it's concerning devices Samsung and Apple aren't even making anymore and haven't been for quite some time.

17. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

With their new iOS 9 option, they might go directly for Google and hit it where it hurts Google: Ad revenue. They allow ad-blockers to block ads coming from any AD network, other than Apples own iAD and Facebooks ad network.

18. Hashed unregistered

Imagine apple blocking ads, as a consequence, Goolge pulls off YouTube app from apple store, plus Google maps. apple will be back in doggy position.

28. engineer-1701d unregistered

no apple would drop of the face of the earth in less then a year look what happened to windows after no official youtube app and having to make a work around

38. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

While this wouldn't be possible at all (they would get sued their ass off) Imagine Google blocking anything Apple related on their search engine and their AD network.

22. TerryTerius unregistered

I'm of two minds on this. On one hand I don't blame Apple for wanting to improve the experience of people that use their products, and getting rid of ads is a way to do that. On the other hand, I'm against ad blockers in general for the simple fact that we already expect everything to be free and ad revenue is one of the very few ways that a hell of a lot of companies make their money. If we don't want to pay for subscription services, don't want to pay a one-time fee and don't want ads to be running our devices... What is left? That being said, it is pretty convenient that they could work in exclusions for Facebook and not Google. Honestly, I don't even really see why. I guess from a business perspective Apple would love it if they could eliminate Microsoft, Google, and anyone else from making a mobile OS or phone... Or software in general. But considering the sheer amount of money that Apple makes, I don't really get why they would feel the need to try and hurt Google's revenue. They aren't really threatened by them. Unless they are trying to put Google in a position where they have to share the ad revenue they make on Apple devices with Apple itself. Although I don't really see how that would work..

25. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Thats how Apple is super greedy and is the main reason i hate them.

30. engineer-1701d unregistered

if apple ever tried to take on google, google and its aids would take half of apples money in the first 6 months and then we would have a great pat war

29. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

If it was purely intended for user experience, they wouldn't make an exception to the blocking rule for their own Ad network and Facebooks. This is solely done for their own wallet. Not only will it cause a loss in ad revenue for Google (and some others), it will also mean businesses might switch to Apple's ad network, since it means they won't be blocked. And since all browsers on iOS use the Apple webkit, they control the web traffic on an iOS device. Also allowing these kind of apps instead of integrate it themselves into iOS is just precaution for any lawsuits that might follow.

41. TerryTerius unregistered

You're likely right. But that's a really... Interesting way to skirt accusations of monopolistic behavior.

54. cnpthe3rd

Posts: 103; Member since: Feb 01, 2009

Apple had no choice but to "work in exclusions" for facebook facebook threatened to pull the facebook ap from apple if it blocked ads, iPhone users as loyal as they are might have actually got upset if they couldnt use facebook on their phone. as apple didnt feel that Google would pull its apps from apple for blocking ads they did not exclude any google apps.

31. dimas

Posts: 3419; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Speaking of iOS9, I wonder if the split screen feature was patented by samsung or google? And the power saving mode, did sony actually made some copyright protection on it?Multiple screens have been around since galaxy s3 so can we see samsung throwing back the mud on apple? Apple seem to have a little addiction on patenting everything from round corners to shiny logos. They might patent front facing speakers and circle power buttons without people knowing it.

42. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

They even tried to patent pinch to zoom feature, smh.

39. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Because if Apple wins, they can set a precedence that would also hurt other manufacturers. As far as a patent for auto-correct, it has to be the way its done, not auto-correct itself. I am sure Samsung doesn't do it the same way Apple does. Apple simply;y needs to fool the courts into thinking so. And then the blind stupid ignorant gullible fans wonder why we don't like Apple, or why many may even hate Apple. It's because of this BS. Apple hates getting beat, so they resort to the courts. They dont care about the money, its about they want to be the one an only on top and no one else can have anything they have, yet they copy everything from everyone else.

14. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

I read the title and literally laughed out loud. Older phones... I know it can set a precedent but still...older phones.... lol.

19. Podrick

Posts: 1285; Member since: Aug 19, 2015

Only ones benifiting from this are lawyers and sites like phonearena(clickbaits). I wish I was their lawyer.

20. infinitykush

Posts: 9; Member since: Aug 24, 2014

Please no hate for Apple. They are too adorable. They break into a fight when someone copies their product or feature. But when they copy or adopt another company's feature, they sulk and deny it all. This is about Samsung and Apple products. So, Don't bring OS in the discussion. Because both have Android in them anyways. I think it was PhoneArena who posted about the force touch replacing the button. So it will basically become a full touch phone. Which is so 2012. But, still I want all the companies to do well and coexist ( Emphasis on the coexist). We consumers get good quality products which are feature packed. Apple is a spoilsport but that will change since Tim Cook is partial to other product's features. Example is the Apple Pencil. No hate for any companies. No fanism. Let all prevail.

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