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Google says the Nexus 9 isn't here to do battle with the iPad Air 2

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Google says the Nexus 9 isn't here to do battle with the iPad Air 2
Alberto Villarreal, head of the Nexus 9's industrial design, spoke with Engadget recently, and revealed that Google's newest tablet isn't planned as a direct iPad Air 2 competitor. In fact, he made it sound as if the company was barely concerned with Apple's slate, and, even though that's probably somewhat untrue, it's not a hard concept to imagine. According to Mr. Villarreal, the Nexus 9 does not seek to battle anyone, but instead aims to inspire other manufacturers to bring better and better Android-bearing slates to the market.

Google's Nexus devices have always served two functions – to bring a Google-branded flagship that runs vanilla Android and gets the newest updates the fastest (thus - to be perfect reference devices), and to show OEMs what kind of quality one can achieve, without creating a terribly overpriced device.

Well, Google's strategy may have been tweaked a bit, and skewed off of its original path, as with the Nexus 6 we no longer see an affordable flagship device, but one that is similarly priced to other premium smartphones on the market. The Nexus 9, however, is still more of a bargain than some other tablets – the lowest tier (32 GB, no cellular) is priced at $399, equal to the pricing of the now 1-year old iPad Air – and Google's HTC-made slate is quite the powerhouse, with its Nvidia Tegra K1 chipset and Kepler graphics.

Villarreal also spoke of why Google chose HTC as a partner for the newest Nexus tab. Here's what he had to say:

We saw the One and really liked how their designs were very simple, focused on usability and removed things that didn't need to be there. [...] They have nice craft and precision details and materials.

The Google Nexus 9 is currently available for pre-order via various retailers and Google Play. It should be physically hitting the shelves on November 3rd, with the cellular version coming a bit later – November 12th. Amazon UK has announced the tablet will reach its customers mid-December, but it is yet unknown, whether this applies to all UK retailers (Google Play, too), or just Amazon.


source: Engadget

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posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:00 10

1. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


The Google Nexus 9 is its own beast. It's really to showcase Android's 64bit move. The Google Nexus 9 is going to be a technological wonder. This is another buy for me.

Also the Google Nexus 9 & the iPad Air 2 are fun devices, these are clearly not productivity devices... If you want a productivity device, get a Windows Surface Pro 3.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:09 5

4. tech2 (Posts: 3398; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Surface Pro 3 is unnecessarily overpriced. After the debut of Yoga Pro 3 (with fanless processor -intel's next big generation leap) I see absolutely no reason to buy Surface Pro 3.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:22 3

6. DogeShibe (Posts: 1111; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


'Unnecessarily'?

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:30 7

8. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


It's expensive yes, but it can do way more than the Google Nexus 9 & iPad Air 2. Essentially it's a PC. If you think there is no reason to buy it, then more power to you. Remember if you want a true productivity Tablet, you have to go Windows, because with Google & Apple you will not find it.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:40 1

10. tech2 (Posts: 3398; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


My argument is completely different. I am talking about the device not the platform.

Yes I agree to be productive you need access to 'full windows' but being productive also requires longer lasting battery which Surface pro 3 fails to deliver against its counterparts. Yoga Pro 3 with its fanless processor will have far more longer battery then Surface Pro 3.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:56 2

11. DogeShibe (Posts: 1111; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


Is it out yet?
That's why SP3 is the best.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 13:23

31. tech2 (Posts: 3398; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


LOL.....its out in 3 days !

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 11:09 1

16. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


I know, but it still doesn't change the fact that the Surface Pro 3 is a true productivity tablet.

You mentioned it's overpriced, but did you see that the Yoga Pro 3 starts at $1299.99... Also I rather have the fan & be rocking an Intel i7 on the Surface Pro 3...

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 13:27

32. tech2 (Posts: 3398; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Well if you're gonna rock a i7 processor tablet with a fan than that battery is only going to last few hours. Hence, you won't be really productive, which is your initial argument.

Yoga Pro 3 emits half the heat, which is a huge deal, and hence it doesn't need a n at all ! Also it is the slimmest ultrabook yet. BTW, the chip of Yoga pro 3 performs on par with the haswell i5 so really you won't notice much difference in that aspect. Also, the on system graphic card is better on Yoga pro 3 then i7 even.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 17:55

44. JunitoNH (Posts: 1666; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


Yes it is. Is a laptop disguise as a tablet.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 13:46

35. eharris560 (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)


I seen one review that states differently

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 19:21

45. BRYLYNT (Posts: 81; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)


have you read any reviews on this? They are pretty terrible. People digging on everything from the supposedly non existent fan being loud to poor build quality, to poor battery life. Even going as far as to say the processor itself being unbearably slow. Just sayin, maybe hop off the hype train and view things from another perspective.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:58 2

12. Finalflash (Posts: 2795; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


This argument of being "able" to do a lot more on surface tablets has to stop. You can do 10 000 more things but none of them will be done on a tablet. No one in their right mind will be doing spreadsheets and large documents on any tablet because that form factor is never going to be good for that. Playing heavy games will never happen because you need a mouse and keyboard (and the cover is crap for anything but light message typing at best). The tablet form factor is for very small work loads which require gesture based input for the most efficiency, not typing or editing excel sheets. MS once again tried to force their vision down everyone's throats instead of letting the device dictate its purpose. They will once again fail.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 11:14 1

17. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Lot's of people now would rather have a tablet than a laptop. The Surface Pro 3 is the BEST tablet for just what I mentioned. No one buys a Google or an Apple tablet to do actual work. The Surface Pro 3 can so all the stuff the Google & Apple tablets can, PLUS WAY more.

Windows still dominates the business world...

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 11:40 1

19. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


The Surface Pro 3 is a laptop/tablet hybrid. If you start comparing it solely with tablets then you have something wrong going on with you. There's a reason why it was being pitted against a MBA during the keynote.

So like he said stop making these pointless arguments. (Honestly I can't wrap my head around why people have such a hissy fit)

Sidenote: Also if you don't find it in yourself to bring forward citation on "Lots of people" then you obviously have a dead argument, you're better off eating cheetos in a corner.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 11:57 2

21. elitewolverine (Posts: 5121; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


When the price of the tablet starts to reach the price of real pc's with no added benefits, yes, yes we can fully compare them.

There is no hissy fit, because you are defending a higher priced inferior product.....gasp apple haters love doing that to apple right? but now when it is on the other foot we can't do that?

How about we compare it to my $250 lynx tablet/pc with win8.1 on it....(hardware wise it looses by the way)

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 12:17 1

25. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


I want to respond to questions but honestly, either they are poorly structured or they just don't make sense.

First, the very reason why tablets exist is not because they want to be your PC, rather a way of handing off computing tasks easily without dealing with all the rattling fans and the heavy hardware. Quoting from the first iPad announcement it sits right in the middle, between your laptop and your smartphone.

It's not much, but its convenient and easily the reason why PC sales have been taking a dive and losing market share to tablets. Microsoft doesn't seem to get this and it's detailed here by Vox if you're so inclined.

http://www.vox.com/2014/5/21/5738560/what-microsoft-doesnt-get-about-the-tablet-revolution

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 13:58

37. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


That Vox argument is pretty one sided. The REASON why Apple's iPad was a hit was because it was different, something new & more compact. The tablets of the time were TEXT book sized. Also technology shrinks & Microsoft is ACTUALLY doing something great. They are giving you a PC in a tablet body.

I bet that pretty soon MacBooks will come in tablet form because that's just where technology is moving.

The future is FULL BLOWN PC's in tablet form, the entertainment tablet as we know it will go extinct for these full blown PC's in tablet form.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 14:18

39. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2075; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


Keep in mind that the SP is for certain types of users. For users who want a tablet that can do a lot more than the mobile tablets, the SP is best for them. Yes, they're late at making pRofits with the tablets more and more users may buy these tablets in the future.

And with the logic of the article link yOu've posted, you might as well throw your phone away and buy a camera, camcorder, photo editing program, hi fi, calculator, etc etc etc. but you stick to your iPhone, as they can barely do anything other mobile OS's can do.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 13:39

33. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Ohh my... This guys is complaining about hissy fits when he himself is throwing a temper tantrum... Heyyyyy Please put the Cheetos down, you are definitely not Chester Cheetah... lol

Wow & he has the gall to say I am in the corner... He has been in the corner wearing his dunce cap especially with that post!

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 11:21 1

18. elitewolverine (Posts: 5121; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Then you are clearly stuck in your ways.

I don't even have a i3+ beast in my 11.6in tablet. I have a Lenovo Lynx on a older Atom. It works beautifully on the go and in the home. Yes i still have a desktop, but my laptop which technically blows this thing away, hardly gets taken out anymore.

I use my Lynx with the optional dock, to do spread sheets, to do word docs. To edit financials of the smaller companies i handle as the weekend warriors me and the wife are for finance. I also use it to play my simple games, to watch netflix when the wife is on the tv and i dont want to get up to use the desktop or pull out the 6lb laptop.

Does it slow down? at times, but to state no one in their right mind will do what you say...is kind of pointless.

The Nexus 9 is catching up to graphics that are 2004 pc graphics...yay?! (x360 and ps3). So 'hardcore' gaming is still stuck to 'android' hardcore graphics that again will not automatically start producing just for the Nexus 9 but for a plethora of devices that sadly are NOT flagship chips.

Simply being at 799 there is no other offering that can 'beat' the surface pro 3. Even the samsung tab 12 runs higher for 'less'.

Basically everything you stated, applies to the nexus 9, and to boot my setup cost under 400, with mouse and keyboard (bluetooth) and 2yr warranty.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 13:48

36. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4814; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


To me is flabbergasting that people can't compare tablets to tablets. My point has & will always be that Google & Apple tablets are for fun. They are EXTREMELY limited in the productivity world. Some fans are trying to make these cheap entertainment tablets as something more than entertainment.

When I say that the Surface Pro 3 does more than the Google & Apple tablets is because it's actually a PC. It has all the tools to be a work machine. You are right at $799.99 the SP3 is a great choice for the person who needs a TRUE productivity machine!

+1

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 17:08

43. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Catching up to the 360? Hate to break it to you, but the CPU in the Nexus 9 is as good as an i3 from 2011, and the GPU is the same exact GPU architecture on the desktop now.

The K1 can run DirectX 12 Games. It's as competitive as the xbox 1.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 13:43

34. eharris560 (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)


It has a fan

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 14:02

38. eharris560 (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)


@tech2 the yoga 3 has a fan or something in that blows air.
Skip the Lenovo Yoga 3 Pro and go for the Surface Pro 3 instead -http://www.windowscentral.com/skip-lenovo-yoga-3-pro-and-go-surface-pro-3-instead app link: wpcentral:show?article=skip-lenovo-yoga-3-pro-and-​go-surface-pro-3-instead

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:31 1

9. bigdawg23 (Posts: 446; Member since: 25 May 2011)


I completely agree with you. I wish Android App Developers would finally start developing more apps for Tablets. There are too many apps that still use a phone version and nothing special for a tablet.

Despite all the Apple haters, everyone has to admit its nice to install one app from a store that works with both a phone and tablet but yet have totally different function. As an example Directv and NFL Sunday Ticket has two Android apps One for Phone and one for Tablet. You get a lot more out of the tablet view.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 12:56

28. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Thats the fault of the developer. Fragments allows one app to scale across multiple devices, with different functions on Android.

Fragments was introduced with 3.0....so its been there since Honeycomb, ICS.

Tivo did it right, they discontinued their tablet only app and redesigned their phone app to work with both phones and tablets.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 13:05

30. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Just doing a quick Play Store search, Netflix, Kindle and Adobe also did it right.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:04 7

2. TimCook (banned) (Posts: 450; Member since: 23 Oct 2014)


Nobody said the nexus 9 is here to rival the Air2.
Don't get me wrong, the nexus 9 is a good tablet but in my opinion the Air2 is in a league on its own.
I am not even sure if the nexus 9 is the best Android tablet considering the Tab S with the smoled screen.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:10 1

5. pulkit1 (Posts: 354; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)


Nexus 9 is a next generation android tablet and showcases what is in store for future android tablets . It can not be compared to Tab s and display alone does not make a tablet great . I just can't get how people think skinned android can beat stock. Google spends better bart of a year to optimise android and then companies put their half baked and heavy android skins on top of it in months .

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:24 1

7. aba71983 (Posts: 805; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)


Some people may agree or disagree about what you say about the screen. As far as I know that many of the consumer concern about the resolution on the screen especially on the Tab S with Super Amoled compared to this Nexus 9. And some people want also a better performance compare to screen resolution and example for the iPad's.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 11:05 2

14. DnB925Art (Posts: 966; Member since: 23 May 2013)


Until Stock puts in features from these "heavily skinned" versions, see: Samsung Knox, multiview, ultra power saving mode, etc. So much for half-baked, it only sucks and gimicky until Google puts it into stock, then it is the best feature ever!

posted on 29 Oct 2014, 12:20

47. pulkit1 (Posts: 354; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)


I have no problems with those features but until samsung finds a way of including them as well as making fast and smooth skins they should leave their skins light .Touchwiz is still stuck in gingerbread era in terms of design , their icons and stock apps like dialler look awful .

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 11:09 1

15. Finalflash (Posts: 2795; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


All the nexus 9 isn't competing with the Apple tablets is fluff. It is a direct shot at Apple and Google has finally started getting aggressive. They're now using the same resolution and form factor to hit both Apple tablets easily. Also, the direct comparison can now be made, hardware vs hardware and iOS 8 vs Lollipop. They're releasing this tablet very widely and they are making sure everyone sees it. After my experience with Lollipop so far, there is no chance Apple wins this. They only have touch ID which is borderline useless on a tablet that can't do multi-user and that literally isn't enough to compete with the large cleft between iOS 8 and Lollipop.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 12:00

22. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


Okay, first L looks nice I mean it does but I think most of what you say is a bit of a stretch too far. Tablets have a different upgrade cycle from phones and most people that choose to ho with tablets often go with iPads.

So, with the Nexus 9 Google really wants to go head to head with the iPad which is great but people don't really stress too much over tablets (we've got the sales to show for it), also devs on Android are really sluggish when it comes to updating their apps (let's not forget that tablet apps Android are already close to zero) so Google really is starting from the ground. But, it's a start and I'm not sure because I can easily lend some credence on Android's huge market share in smartphones to Samsung which BTW is doing pretty awful in tablets.

With that being said I guess it's safe to say Android still has a long way to go on this front and don't get your hopes up that the Nexus 9 will be some kind of an iPad killer because honestly... that's not going to happen, at least not yet.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 11:44

20. shuaibhere (Posts: 1983; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Stop your rant already...
Tab s is much more than just amoled...(ever heard of multi-window??)...
If you like stock android...it's good for you...but how can you say manufacturers UI sucks???
I use TW and stock android in daily life....so I know how much better is TW....you can't simply clear all task I'm recent apps in stock...and notification toggles work horribly...there are many many small things missing on stock anroid...which makes it less preferable of me...

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 12:39

27. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2157; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


People need to get over this AOSP love affair. Is it. ? Yes. Has it raised the bar as many would like to believe? NO.

Almost every feature that gets implemented into AOSP was on a competing OS, an Android OEM skin, or a device ROM first before it made it into AOSP. AOSP is just the showcase for stock Android and it signals when UI changes are made. TW, and to a lesser extent, Sense and LG's UI, have more functionality and they are responsible for driving improvements in AOSP.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 10:07 2

3. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Any Nexus device isnt aimed at the competition.

"the Nexus 9 does not seek to battle anyone, but instead aims to inspire other manufacturers to bring better and better Android-bearing slates to the market."

Just about every Nexus device is a reference device for the new OS version.

Even the Nexus devices that were more retail phones than dev phones...they were aimed at consumers, not the competition.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 11:02 2

13. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2157; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


True, and they definitely hit the mark with the Nexus 9. I think they missed the mark with the N6 because it won't be able to leverage 64-bit Lollipop fully.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 12:14

23. blingblingthing (Posts: 523; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


Makes sense Google, you should always ensure the "bar" is set high.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 12:17

24. Luke. (Posts: 3; Member since: 27 Oct 2014)


I would love to pick up a Nexus 9. However, I want to see some solid hands-on reviews first. After looking at the iPad 2's display there is something to be desired with the "zero gap" display (or whatever they called it). The image quality is AMAZING. Now, I'm far from an apple fan, but I'm hoping that displays on upcoming android tablets/slates will be able to compete with what Apple has done in the display department.

what do you guys think?

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 12:23

26. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


They did the same with iPhone for quite some time now so it's not exactly "new" but it's great that it did make it to the iPad. I just love how amazingly thin it is also the digitizer is now closer to the display so it will feel like you're touching the software like a real physical object.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 13:03

29. slh163 (Posts: 138; Member since: 19 May 2014)


not really.. i dont think you will notice any difference because you already seen iphones display who have 0 gap like almost all other smartphones its just something that apple have to bring to make people feel that they adds something new to the display

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 15:27 1

40. darkkjedii (Posts: 20118; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Google and Apple have the same goals, make as much money as possible by putting out the best possible products they can. It's the stupid fanboys of both camps, that stain that concept. n9, and Air 2 rule as have hitters.

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 16:51 1

42. darkkjedii (Posts: 20118; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Heavy hitters

posted on 27 Oct 2014, 16:50

41. moab123 (Posts: 11; Member since: 05 Oct 2014)


It shouldn't take a genius to know that no tablet will ever replace a laptop, at least for now and not even the Surface pro 3 can. The true is Microsoft always come to the party very late

posted on 28 Oct 2014, 08:42 1

46. Luke. (Posts: 3; Member since: 27 Oct 2014)


Despite the Surface Pro 3 not quite living up to the hybrid hype that Microsoft preaches, I have to admit (and disagree with you) that I think this is one area Microsoft is pioneering. I think in a few years Microsoft will offer a Surface tablet that will be a reference point to how a hybrid tablet/laptop should be.

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