WSJ: No Touch ID for iPhone 8, but a new facial-recognition feature might be embedded

WSJ: No Touch ID for iPhone 8, but a new facial-recognition feature might be embedded
We're less than a week away from Apple's big launch event and we're still overwhelmed by the sheer number leaks that supposedly depict one or more of the three iPhones that are expected to be unveiled on September 12. 

Wall Street Journal has it from trusted sources that Apple dropped the idea of including a fingerprint sensor in the new OLED display. After deciding to do away with the physical home button, it tried to put the Touch ID function in the display.

Unfortunately, the attempt proved more difficult than Apple initially thought, so the idea was eventually abandoned due to the approaching deadlines. Instead, the iPhone 8 will allow users to unlock it using traditional methods like a password.

However, sources with knowledge of Apple's plans say Apple is expected to add a new facial-recognition feature that will replace the fingerprint sensor.

These attempts to embed the Touch ID in the display led to some delays, so production was put back by about a month just for this reason. iPhone 8's production was further delayed after Apple decided to include OLED screens into its new phones, similar to those used by Samsung.

Unlike the OLED displays made by Samsung, those produced in Vietnam by an affiliate of Samsung Electronics specifically for the iPhone 8 have the touch panel outside the screen.

Moreover, the iPhone manufacturing process is more complex and involves more steps and layers of adhesive and protective film as opposed to Samsung's manufacture process, which makes it more prone to errors.

source: WSJ

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125 Comments

1. dubaiboy78

Posts: 457; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

This is the best iphone apple made!!! 9.9 rating!!! -iphonearena

12. Lumbergh

Posts: 463; Member since: Feb 14, 2016

No, I honestly believe that PA will criticize this phone. - If notch rumor is true, this is bad design - Again, no 3.5mm jack - No touch ID - Insane pricepoint Only thing we know for certain is performance will be stellar. But, time for Apple to tack on more compelling features to partially compensate for missing hardware. I'm an iOS and Android guy, but can't have a smartphone without a FPS and 3.5mm jack.

20. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Everything that you mentioned is not a negative, it's an improvement and pushes tech forward!

24. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

I fail to see how the removal of the 3.5mm jack pushes tech foward... I'll be pissed if Samsung removes the 3.5mm jack in the Galaxy S9, in fact, I'll boycott the Galaxy S9 or Note9 is there is no 3.5mm jack in it.

74. therealestmc

Posts: 679; Member since: Jul 23, 2012

That's true. Many people don't care another the headphone jack.

122. KingSam

Posts: 1505; Member since: Mar 13, 2016

The other day my cousin unplugged his earbuds from his laptop and into the 7 plus......... oh wait. I laughed so hard.

107. MarvzIsFallen

Posts: 646; Member since: Aug 11, 2017

As for me, I don’t really use earphones. When i play music, i use a Bluetooth speaker. Also, apple included a 3.5 connector if in case u need to connect.

25. Lumbergh

Posts: 463; Member since: Feb 14, 2016

- Notches do not push tech forward - lower quality audio does not push tech forward - less security options do not push tech forward Insane pricepoints push tech forward only for consumers who can afford it. Looking at the US, only ~20% of households bring in $100k annually, suggesting most can/should not buy a phone that's $1k+.

29. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

"Insane pricepoints push tech forward only for consumers who can afford it. Looking at the US, only ~20% of households bring in $100k annually, suggesting most can/should not buy a phone that's $1k+." You're a smuck! You don't need to earn $100K per year to affoprd a $1000 phone. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. As long as you have a way to make the monthly payment and have a good credit score, you can get any phone you want. Even if you have a minimum wage job, which is $7.25, you can afford this phone. You are a jerk, a fool and you should just drop from existence. I dont understand what you fools have against poor people. Rich people cannot sustain a business who money is based on volume sales. If only rich people bought phones, Apple would cease to exist. If it wasn't for poor people, the fact is the vast majority of businesses would not exist. You are simply an uneducated idiot!

34. Lumbergh

Posts: 463; Member since: Feb 14, 2016

I didn't even insinuate an individual must make $100K to afford a $1k phone, nor did I insinuate having anything against poor people. Note, I stated household income. That's the aggregate earnings of the household, not the individual. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income Techie, the only uneducated idiot here is you lol.

55. brasstax

Posts: 546; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

You just called an individual a smuck, an idiot, a jerk, a fool and an idiot again. Who the hell do you think you are to verbally abuse somebody you have never met before and never are likely to meet in person just because you disagree with his point of view? You are all of those names you called him if you find gratification in taunting strangers on a mobile tech forum.

79. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1584; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

You make idiotic claims and twist truths on a regular basis while failing to grasp actual knowledge, you shouldn't call others uneducated. LMAO I'd like to see anyone who lives off minimum wage afford fancy electronics like this. Unless you're living with mommy a vast majority of your income goes to keeping a roof over your head while you still need to figure out the rest of your living expenses.

99. Xilam unregistered

Techie, you really do have a juvenile view of today's economics and workforce within.

114. Mr.Pussy

Posts: 348; Member since: Feb 16, 2017

Techie, Techie. You and your essay lol. Just stop it homie. Please go to bed lol.

28. AgentZero

Posts: 314; Member since: Aug 16, 2014

did your parent feed you lead paint when you were a child ?

67. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

How is bad design (the notch) an improvement and how pushes it tech forward? Same for high pricepoint. Also, I truely believe just face ID is a step backwards. It's easier to unlock someone's phone by just holding it in front of their face. Like a jealous wife, the police, a thief. How will it unlock if you wear sunglasses or in the cold, wear a scarf. During a motorcycle ride, a short stop you need to remove your helmet or type your pincode. I think choices are good, but they are taking a major one away.

71. PhoneInQuestion

Posts: 496; Member since: Aug 20, 2017

Get off your technological high horse.

92. iushnt

Posts: 3153; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Not having FPS is an advancement? You should not be too much of a blind fanboy.

108. Sammy_DEVIL737

Posts: 1529; Member since: Nov 28, 2016

Im in an infinite loop thinking whether ur comment is troll or reality.

115. tedkord

Posts: 17463; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

You should write for BGR.

73. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

lol It's iphonearena. The day they criticize an iphone is the day the world ends. If you don't criticize 3 year old hardware and 6 year old software, they won't criticize anything else.

82. Klinton

Posts: 1409; Member since: Oct 24, 2016

The notch is not only bad design. It will destroy every image on the display, covering some parts of the sites, books, apps. Worse on landscape view. From the both sides of the notch is useless display. I guess some stupid ignorant ifan(dreaming for display/to body ratio) invented this 'notch' rumor. Don't believe Apple to be so stupid.

19. slow00

Posts: 97; Member since: Mar 08, 2017

Bankz we all are looking at you..based on your sources we had high hopes for the embedded fingerprint scanner and you let us down..at least samsung saved the day with the bezel less amoled display and apple will bring sth new to the user experience

100. Xilam unregistered

"Bankz we all are looking at you..based on your sources we had high hopes for the embedded fingerprint scanner and you let us down" still laughing from the tone you presented in this comment - my favorite post for the day.

2. mikehunta727 unregistered

This facial scanner seems to be extremely exciting. I think it'll work really well and very fast with great accuracy. People won't miss Touch ID if this works just as fast

4. Well-Manicured-Man

Posts: 711; Member since: Jun 16, 2015

Touch ID cannot be replaced. I hope apple can include this tech next year.

5. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Touch ID will not make a comeback. It was never about embedding it into the display. It was about getting rid of it. If you don't believe me, watch the industry follow!

31. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Maybe they could have gotten rid of the FPS if the under the screen one worked. It doesn't so Apple should have left the original one and just mounted to the back. But because they are uneventful and lazy and cheap, they simply removed it. Only to bring it back under the display once it is ready. You are tryign to make it sound Apple was the only one workign on this and everyone was gonna follow them. Facts show many OEM's including Apple and Samsung were working to get it done. You all thought Apple had some magical power and was gonan do what Samsung couldnt. You can't fix something you don't make. The only fix is those who actually make it.

93. iushnt

Posts: 3153; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

It's Apple who followed to bring the facial recognition. Don't be such a blind fanboy who accepts anything Apple pushes. I am sure you will love the iPhone even if Apple removes the display from it.

116. tedkord

Posts: 17463; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Unbelievable. Six months ago Apple fans were were telling us how Apple would do what Samsung couldn't, or the FPS is the screen. Now that Apple couldn't do it, they were never going to, it was all about doing away with it. Sounds like the little boy who trips on the playground and falls face first in the dirt, then jumps up and proclaims, "I meant to do that!"

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