Report: Apple orders 70 million OLED screens; 3D face recognition confirmed for iPhone 8

Report: Apple orders 70 million OLED screens; 3D face recognition confirmed for iPhone 8
Note: The thumbnail image to the left is an Apple iPhone 8 concept created by graphic designer AlHasan Husni

Just yesterday, we told you that Samsung will be spending $8.9 billion to expand production of OLED panels this year, with Apple the likely beneficiary of this spending. Today, a report from Japan's Nikkei news agency revealed today that Apple has ordered 70 million OLED panels from Samsung for use in 2017. The 10th anniversary iPhone model, dubbed the Apple iPhone 8, is expected to be the only handset from Apple using OLED this year. As a result, we can deduce that Apple expects to sell a huge amount of iPhone 8 handsets over the holiday quarter.

During the same period last year, Apple sold a record 78.3 million handsets. This means that a new record number of quarterly iPhone sales could be made during the calendar fourth quarter this year. In preparation of extremely heavy demand for the model, Samsung is ready to deliver as many as 95 million OLED screens to Apple. The information comes from a source in the iPhone supply chain. According to David Hsieh, a senior director at research company IHS Markit, Samsung will be the sole supplier of OLED displays to Apple. In addition, as previously mentioned by KGI Securities' reliable Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, the other two iPhone units expected this year (Apple iPhone 7s and the Apple iPhone 7s Plus) will stick with LCD screens. Next year, all Apple models will be using OLED screens, according to Kuo.

The report published by Nikkei also confirms Kuo's earlier comment that the iPhone 8 will feature a "revolutionary" front-facing camera. This camera will employ 3D facial recognition technology that will allow it to unlock the phone and verify identification. The supply chain source also said that the iPhone 8 will not have a home button although the other two 2017 models will. We previously told you to expect the unit to carry a 5.2-inch active screen with an area measuring .6-inches that will be used for virtual controls and possibly an embedded version of Touch ID. The iPhone 8 will not be cheap as speculation has Apple pricing the handset above $1,000.

Yuanta Investment Consulting's Jeff Pu estimates that Apple will sell a record 100 million new iPhone models in 2017 with 55 million coming with an OLED display. Others expect that all three of the 2017 iPhones will support wireless charging and will be IP68 certified for dust and water resistance.

Apple should unveil its new 2017 iPhone lineup in September.

source: Nikkei

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88 Comments

1. kiko007

Posts: 7489; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Hype intensifies...

2. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Let's see what you got, Apple.

17. LebronJamesFanboy

Posts: 671; Member since: Mar 23, 2013

Most likely, nothing too exciting. The Mac Pro Tower, iPad Air 2, and iPhone 6s Plus may be my last Apple products. Nothing too exciting has come from Apple lately, but I'm hopeful this will change with strong players in the smartphone and computer industries. Regardless, Apple will do extremely well due to its loyal fan-base.

19. LebronJamesFanboy

Posts: 671; Member since: Mar 23, 2013

To add, sad to say not a single Apple product in the Apple Store interests me. Not to completely blame Tim Cook, but I'd like him to step his game up and properly respond to competition in an innovative way.

71. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

You r just a one person of all 7 billion in the entire world. So actually your likeness isn't that important.

90. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Because of your statement, people here will probably label you as Fandroid who pretended to own Apple products.

21. darkkjedii

Posts: 30830; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I can't wait to see iOS 11, and iPhone 8 Mxy. I'm actually excited for it like crazy, but the S8 is so tempting.

98. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Same here. I'm excited to see what Apple cooks up, but I also have eyes on the Pixel successor.

3. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Now im wondering how ifans will justify burn-ins ??

7. kiko007

Posts: 7489; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

These are Samsung's panels. If they get burn-in, it's strictly their issue. Besides, burn-in is only a problem if you leave static images on screen for hours at a time. My Nexus 6 is two years old, and still doesn't have burn-in. So basically, it's not a problem.

26. Unordinary unregistered

How is it justified though, when it's such a variety of problem? My friends Note 4 had a burn in within a few weeks of purchase. He got a new one from Samsung and it burned in a few months later. He never uses his phone for hours on time. No more than 20 mins at a time.

52. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Yeah sure, you have a really huge sample size there. /s Good job tim cook jockrider.

68. sgtdisturbed47

Posts: 960; Member since: Feb 02, 2012

This problem can also be found on S6/Edge/Plus, Note 5, and S7. It's an AMOLED problem that has yet to be fixed, mostly because of the display tech itself. Apple users aren't going to say "I blame Samsung for burn-in", because it's an Apple device and Apple is financially responsible for the defects.

73. sissy246

Posts: 7000; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Only phone I had with burn in was a Motorola atrix. I have never had one e of my Samsung phones get burn in.

87. iushnt

Posts: 3060; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Don't believe until you own one. Don't bother if u r not planning to own one. Just as simple as that.

89. adi90

Posts: 554; Member since: Dec 21, 2015

I never understood this problem of burn in. I have a $120 mobile with old screen which is 18 months old. It does not have Any burn in. And I use it heavily. How come expensive mobiles like note series gets burn in so fast.

92. sissy246

Posts: 7000; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Because he is talking s**t. Not saying it can't happen , but it didn't happen the way he is saying if it did. My note 5 is a year and a half old and has no burn in.

72. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Lol....

74. Macready

Posts: 1811; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

"These are Samsung's panels. If they get burn-in, it's strictly their issue" Baloney of course. Pretty much all Apple hardware parts are manufactured by others, according to Apple, specs, wishes and demands. If there's a problem, it's Apple's problem for using them and giving these parts their approval.

81. kiko007

Posts: 7489; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

"Baloney of course. Pretty much all Apple hardware parts are manufactured by others, according to Apple, specs, wishes and demands. If there's a problem, it's Apple's problem for using them and giving these parts their approval." Way to take the entire point of my post completely out of context.

82. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

Samsung's fault?! What?! You are hilarious. Baa baaa itard sheep

85. kiko007

Posts: 7489; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Your mom must be really proud of how you turned out...

99. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

Yes, she is extremely proud. I feel genuinely sorry for your mom though. Lol In fact, I would send her a card and recommend a good counsel if I knew her.

94. ShaikhJGI

Posts: 358; Member since: Jan 10, 2014

@kiko007 I really won't agree with your 1st comment at all "These are Samsung's panels. If they get burn-in, it's strictly their issue". Are you freaking serious here? My Goodness you guys keep bragging every time about Apple designing everything that goes into iPhone, & now I am seeing this comment. There is a famous saying here in INDIA, "If I do its a mistake & if you do its a Miracle" :(

102. Unordinary unregistered

Also, the trouble with this that is looming for all iPhone users is that while amoled screens can look spectacular, they still haven't solved the problem of screen quality degradation and/or actual burn in within the useable lifetime of the device. This article which is practically ancient now (2015) explains the problem of amoled panel degradation and shows what it looks like and is still relevant because the problem with blue pixel lifespan has yet to be fixed: http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/20372_Do_AMOLED_phone_screens_degrad.php The Galaxy S8 still uses a pentile display like previous generation Samsung displays with a large blue pixel to help offset the effect of the blue pixel burning out faster than the red and green. The end result is that for most people, after around a year or so, maybe sooner, the screen will start to drift away from being both as accurate or as sharp as it originally was. Eventually you'll go into a store or see a friend or family members new phone and consciously or unconsciously notice that in comparison, yours just doesn't look as good. Something's kinda off. This will push you in the direction of upgrading earlier than you would have otherwise if you normally keep your phones more than a year. The IPS LCD displays that Apple have used so far have been of exceptional quality and they didn't degrade in quality over time. Apple clearly sees a benefit to using amoled, mostly as a selling point, "those blacks!", and also, undoubtedly because it will help their bottom line in keeping the upgrade cycle as tight as possible for them. Consumers in my experience of reading threads where this is discussed either: Dont care, Don't think it's a big deal, can't "see" any burn in or degradation, or else have invested already in amoled screened phones and so become very defensive about what are basically objective flaws of the tech. I wish Samsung or others (Apple, maybe!?) could fix the inherent flaws of amoled screen tech but until then it's like a Trojan horse for the consumer. All saturated punchy colours and the deepest blacks but from the moment you turn on and start using that display you're never really dealing with the same display on a daily basis as the colours shift subtly and relentlessly and if you're fairly unlucky (it's still a definite factor) you'll see actual burn in where items on the screen leave a shadow that's pretty much permanent unless you burn out the rest of the screen similarly to compensate (there are apps for precisely this). None of this will stop sales. That much we already know from amoled screen use in android devices. But at least i think people should be aware of the flaws inherent to amoled tech and which is rarely talked about, discussed or even fully acknowledged.

4. kiko007

Posts: 7489; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

"Yuanta Investment Consulting's Jeff Pu estimates that Apple will sell a record 100 million new iPhone models in 2017 with 55 million coming with an OLED display." That would be impressive, even for Apple. Just please, for the love of God Apple, offer fast charging! That's all I really need to upgrade. Oled is a nice addition, and the redesign is warranted (if not necessary) after three years. Even so, fast charging SHOULD be a priority.

9. Bankz

Posts: 2486; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

3d sensing ff camera, ar enabled primary camera, 3d touch, underglass fps, stereo speakers, water resistant, a11 soc, 256g storgge, dual cameras, monster battery life, aaaand that jet black. OMG!!!

15. mikehunta727 unregistered

Yeah.. the i8 is sounding really impressive atm

22. darkkjedii

Posts: 30830; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

It'll be 2017's top seller for sure. Bankz made my mouth water, with post 9.

23. HateFanboi

Posts: 11; Member since: Feb 14, 2016

Made your mouth water? Darkkjedii, you must be a complete loser and the dumbest Apple fanboy in existence.

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