Verizon to get ICS exclusive in the form of the Samsung DROID Prime
1. bossmt_2 (Posts: 445; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
If it's a real Nexus phone, this is great news, If they load it with Samsungs UI, and Bing, etc. I will not be getting the phone, regardless of the processor.
7. Goldeneye (Posts: 404; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
if its a Droid they can't "Bing it", the rest who knows, bloatware? who cares!, the Bionic, and SGSII (if it would've make it to VZW) would be full of it as well! root! anyone?
8. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
u do not understand... verizon binged all the droid phones like the fascinate for who knows why... they have the power to since they are the carrier..
10. nofan (unregistered)
You do not understand. The Fascinate was not a "Droid" phone. Droid is a brand. A series of devices with certain features. The Thunderbolt, Fascinate, and Revolution are NOT Droid phones, but they RUN Android. :) Understand now?
16. wilt1234 (unregistered)
I call all with google devices that run froyo, gingerbread, have android marketplace or with you have to set up a gmail email account etc i call it a droid which is just short for anDROID, i know they are different types but its still a android operating system. So its a droid to me a nexus with anDROID is a droid, a galaxy with anDROID operating system is a droid just a well known moniker now so no matter what the call it or whatever it will still be mainly called a DROID by buyers
20. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
these aren't iPhones where the OS and the phone are really one in the same. Android devices have different names. use them. Droid is Verizon's branding for most of their Android phones. i think Verizon SHOULD be consistent with the brand but they're not and the Droid Moniker can make all the difference as you can see in this article.
33. Vman (unregistered)
Good. Keep doing that. You'll just sound ignorant to everyone else. It is no different than telling everyone you bought an iphone, yet showing them a samsung galaxy.
35. tedkord (Posts: 8303; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
You can call them whatever you like, but you are still wrong. Droid is a particular branded phone, android is a mobile OS. Droid phones (which are on Verizon only) aren't Binged, they are Google only.
46. Commentator (Posts: 3370; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
You're what's wrong with most people today...
70. shelley.bevacqua (Posts: 80; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)
I agree with you !! I always the "Droid" was just a cool name to attach to phones with Android. It's more of a marketing tool.
The other person was condescending. Right?
107. heh (unregistered)
C'mon man! Not because YOU call *anything* android "DROID", it doesn't mean they are actually droids! DROID is a name for a type of android phone that meets certain "DROID specs/features".
Look at it this way, if I call you stupid, does that mean you are? If *a lot* of people who DON'T know you call you stupid, would that mean anything to you and all those who know you (assuming you're not really stupid)?
30. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
okay my bad.. i read too quickly and misworded what i meant to say.. but idk i wish att or someone got this phone because for some reason everything on verizon has something or other being a problem..
11. Goldeneye (Posts: 404; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
I do understand, the fascinate never was marketed as a "Driod", don't confuse "Droid" with any other Android, so far the only "Droid" phones are the Moto's, Incredibles, Charge and now the Bionic, I might be forgeting one but that is no the Fascinate
63. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the samsung droid charge is a droid phone.. the fascinate was certainly not a Droid phone.
Can ICS be themed like gingerbread and other phones? Wasnt that part of the point.. to reduce the amount of creative leaway a manufacturer could take with android?
Also, on exclusively:
I'm HOPING that the "exclusivity" on this phone is on the branding.. as in "VZW is the only carrier to have the DROID prime!"... while everyone else launches the nexus prime. Sure, geeks like us will know its the same but the bulk of people will think that VZW's version is superior because of the DROID moniker. Who knows.. maybe it will be. This is VZWs chance to really have a top end brand new phone. Lets hope they dont screw it up by bloating and limiting the heck out of it.
72. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
i've always believed the Droid Branding is an important thing for a Verizon Android phone. like you said people will assume it's superior because of Verizon's kick-ass job with marketing the things therefore it'll become a very popular and widely used phone. the more popular a phone is the more support it gets from the community, the carrier and the manufacturer which is only good for the end user.
18. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
the Fascinate is not a DROID! why would anyone on this site think all Verizon Android phones are Droids. they're not.
40. Goldeneye (Posts: 404; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
The worst part is that a lot of people thinks that not just Verizon's but any carrier's are Droids! Lol, BTW Droid is a trademark used by VZW under license so yeah they can sue if somebody else uses the term
93. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, i have people coming in all the time asking that. The 2 most annoying questions in a store are "do you have an iphone" and "do you have a droid".
At least you know their marketing is working.
42. correction (unregistered)
the fascinate was not a "droid" branded phone.
51. att.arn.rno (Posts: 9; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
I just thought droids were those robots those Stormtroopers were looking for...
108. DarkCobra (Posts: 16; Member since: 04 Oct 2009)
Remember when we just called them "phones". Well this one's a phone . . . and a cool one at that . . . end of rant.
15. jd_acura (unregistered)
It's possible that it may come with Samsung's UI, but I highly doubt it as it will be the first phone to come with Google's Ice Cream Sandwich which has been highly touted to be "pure android 4.0"...I think the bigger worry is if Verizon will be putting all of the VZW crap on it and if tethering will be free or if Verizon will force a $15 app down our throats. Either way this is great news for Verizon customers who were upset about the Galaxy S II. I was honestly contemplating settling for the Bionic.
77. iblackdroid (Posts: 67; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
I love the SGSII, dont get me wrong... but i would much rather this with a better processor and ICS :D
82. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
the OMAP4460 is higher clocked than an Exynos but it doesn't actually beat an Exynos.
50. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
That's why I would get an iPhone, not because it's better than Android, which it is, but because it's free from Verizon crapware.
54. zuno gyakusatsu (Posts: 257; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)
its free from Android as well which is an immediate plus and an instant boost in reliability.
58. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
the trollol's sidekick. stfu or gtfo
85. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
EXACTLY :D Not only that, but it's free from malware, forced closes, random boots, and rogu-
84. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
As usual, the Androids fans are either butthurt or bitter because people point out the flaws.
78. sgogeta4 (Posts: 393; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)
I hope it comes with Samsung UI. Samsung has awesome software now that they've hired the best programmers from groups such as CyanogenMod. I just hope it will have a more HTC feel like the Thunderbolt and not like the SGS2, which I have both used. They won't have Bing as stated previously, the DROID moniker is Verizon's high end Google phone with Google search.
87. whoaTOOmuch (unregistered)
People are forgetting that even thought the 4460 is 300MHZ faster the gpu is an old clocked up 540 from the sg1. Also since it might not be a pure google device it will be full of bloats so at the end it will run slower than the gs2 on sprint because they can just delete all the bloat and the exynos is proven to run smoothly. Also the bigger screen might take more out of phone as well...?
91. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
bloatware should never be a factor when you're comparing two phone's performance because the hacking community is as busy as ever. you can't knock a phone's performance because you don't want to dirty your hands a little to bring out it's full potential. this will probably have an unlocked bootloader anyway. the SGX540 may be a year old GPU now but it's still the best you can get in the states today.
88. whoaTOOmuch (unregistered)
2. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
If true makes sense passing on the sgs2, at least from a technical view aka not marketing view
41. wumberpeb (Posts: 452; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
Bottom line, this is a double tragedy for Verizon...oh great, Verizon doesn't get the GS2. Every other carrier gets the goodies! Well that sucks...Strike 1
Oh wait, they get the Nexus Prime! Awesome! Great alternative! But wait...it's not a real Nexus, it's the great hardware with all the bloatware. That'll make make it feel like a Tegra 2, which is not what people expect of the highest caliber devices
Strike 2 and 3
45. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
it'll feel FAR FAR superior to a Tegra II phone. as far as snappiness it'll be snappier than a Galaxy S II because it'll still be stock. feel a G2x and see what i'm talking about.
52. wumberpeb (Posts: 452; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
As far as Sprint goes, because I sell for them anyways, the Photon (Tegra2) and Evo 3d both feel a tad bit sluggish in their transition effects in the UI. I'm sure they both crank out great benchmark numbers, but what I'm personally interested to see with any phone is how smooth it feels navigating around the interface. That's why I own their Nexus S. If the Prime can compensate for the burden the bloatware and UI place on the phone, and actually feel snappy and smooth, I'll be all for it (even though its Verizon)
I'd just hate to see the debut of the Prime ruined because its bogged down with junk. This was the phone that was (supposedly) going to chew up every benchmark in its path due to both its awesome proc and its LACK of carrier modifications
62. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
between the superior OMAP4460 and the fact that it's stock with newer and likely more efficient code from ICS it can have more bloat than anything and still feel snappier than anything you've ever seen..
80. wumberpeb (Posts: 452; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
I hope you're right, but considering we're talking about a completely new OS, it's all up in the air
..but believe me. I hope it's the best yet from the get go
86. whoaTOOmuch (unregistered)
you forgot about the old clocked up gpu the 4460 uses. Also if the phone is full of crapware and if you don't get rid of them than the extra 300MHZ power is nothing.
92. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
no, i didn't. it may be old but it's still good GPU. it's far from nothing if it buries the bloatware besides bloatware isn't such a huge factor, you just get rid of it.
3. Devon (unregistered)
I know what I am waiting for now. Sorry Moto.
4. lemenade (Posts: 31; Member since: 28 Jul 2011)
man it coming exclusively to Verizon totally killed my hope for it coming to sprint
12. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Verizon will get it exclusively first as the DROID Prime, but that doesn't mean the Nexus Prime won't be hitting other carriers later.
23. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
if so then it's pretty safe to say there won't be much difference between the Droid Prime and the Nexus Prime aside from some bloatware and locked down tethering on the former and maybe 4G LTE.
25. lemenade (Posts: 31; Member since: 28 Jul 2011)
yeah but its the later part that kills me
i have been up for an upgrade since may and the prime was looking like it would be my phone to take to college
29. lemenade (Posts: 31; Member since: 28 Jul 2011)
maybe if it comes out in 2012 it will have the 4470 chipset ?
31. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I doubt the Nexus Prime will have any different hardware than the DROID Prime. And, I'd expect the Nexus to hit T-Mo and Sprint by December at the latest.
32. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
if it comes out in 2012 it better have a OMAP5 or a Kal-El.
53. wumberpeb (Posts: 452; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
If the Verizon bloatware is able to be removed, then this all becomes a non-issue.I just doubt that will happen
64. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Since it's still a Nexus phone at heart, I can't imagine unlocking and rooting will be difficult.
65. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
If it has to wait till december because of some stupid exclusivity with big red, then it better have a bump in specs somewhere. Totally agree with DX.
of course its all speculation but still!
5. Goldeneye (Posts: 404; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
Yes! this is definitively my next phone who needs the SGSII with this bad boy? but the Vigor is very tempting as well, decisions decisions
6. FATmasters (unregistered)
idk it's name "DROID prime" and not a nexus. Also I bet verizon will be selling it for $300 with 2 year. Can't say that this will be enough to entice me to stay with verizon when I can get the gs2 for $25 plus tax. DIdn't they say that this phone is supposed to have 720 screen, but that samsung ceo announced it having super amoled plus. IDK confusing well we will all know tomorrow. sgs2 lte variant or is it nexus 3 aka droid prime?
13. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
The Samsung CEO announced the LTE version of the SGS2 as Super AMOLED Plus, but that's for Europe. The DROID Prime will be on Verizon instead of the SGS2 and could still feature the Super AMOLED HD.