Samsung's Nexus Prime could be Google's first Ice Cream Sandwich phone

6. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

Lol a Pure Android device on Verizon with no bloatware? You have a better chance of seeing the worst NFL team winning the super bowl.

9. AndroidOS (Posts: 100; Member since: 21 Jun 2011)

Or mod the phone and remove bloatware yourself.

38. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

Typical Phadroid response no doubt.

40. AndroidOS (Posts: 100; Member since: 21 Jun 2011)

Yep :)

11. alec (unregistered)

a phone with no bloatware on verizon you mean like the iphone 4

maybe verizon will let google do there thing with this phone like they let apple do with the iphone

33. Scribed3d (Posts: 28; Member since: 08 Aug 2010)

Actually, the closest pure-stock android phone on VZW is the Xperia Play. Nice, plain, pure Gingerbread. There is a little bloatware, but almost nothing compared to what is on their other devices.

I find it ironic that the device with the most specialized design has the purest of rendering.

39. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

Apple is like a huge money magnet. Verizon saw how much money Apple made AT&T and with all the success Apple has, of course they'd be able to call the terms here.

Besides, Android is Open Sourced which means -BLOATWARE magnent

14. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

oh you mean the jaguars? lol.

22. koutrelakos (Posts: 30; Member since: 17 Mar 2010)

the browns

32. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

No the worst has to be the Detroit Lions. Hands down. lol

41. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

lol.. worse than the jags? oh see now we gots a fight!! whose worse!?! :)

45. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

Super-EVO - have you seen the D-Line they have built in Detroit? QB's in their division are hoping the lock out stays on. That is turning into a good team. Makes since, since 2012 is supposed to be the end of the world.

43. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

Until they stop firing coaches every other year, stop rotating players like a mery-go-round, and quite bragging about how good they were 20 or 30 years ago, the Raiders wear the crown for worse team in the NFL. Gone from being feared to being a punchline of a bad grid-iron joke.

54. Go, Cowboys! (unregistered)

Bills Bills Bills have to be the worst!

Buffalo, that is.

62. lemenade (Posts: 31; Member since: 28 Jul 2011)

I am from that area and even I agree with you.

25. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

a Nexus with Bing? reeeally? would that happen?

31. nb2six (Posts: 298; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)

division by zero and the end of the world as we know it...

8. Quang Le (unregistered)

Hmmm, Carrier's subsidy, ever heard of it?

15. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

they could still do a carrier subsidy through either the carrier,indirects, or through best buy. Making it a world phone doesnt stop that. The next iphone is supposed to be this way, and its not like VZW and Sprint dont both carry dual cdma/gsm phones as it is.

19. box (unregistered)

Various carriers use different styles of phones. AT&T & T-Mobile (and most global carriers, like O2, Vodafone, Rogers, Nokia-Siemens, etc) use GSM/UMTS, which use SIM cards. Verizon, Sprint, U.S. Cellualr, Virgin, Boost, StraightTalk, etc use CDMA, which is an older, slower technology that isn't worldwide, and which in order to be a global phone, require a separate SIM slot along with the CDMA internal chip to use international GSM networks, such as the Droid Pro world phone. Yes, some CDMA phones can be used internationally where there is a CDMA network, but those are much less common, and getting less so with the onset of LTE and LTE-Advanced. Hence, in order for a manufacturer to make one model of phone to work on ALL networks, would require more hardware, more programming, and more resources, which means the phone cost would go up, and sales would plummet except for those that require the feature of all cell bands available. Is the system perfect? No. Does it work for the existing infrastructure and phone OEM and carrier relationships? Yes, for now. I think in a decade when CDMA is more or less dead, we'll be able to buy LTE/LTE-Advanced phones that will work with any carrier, which might have the older tech added in for lower-coverage areas or places that don't have LTE as developed, but will be eventually phased out, just like other outdated technology. Who knows, maybe the CDMA bands will be able to be freed up for something better in the future, but for now, GSM/UMTS and LTE are the way of the future, and why places like Europe and Asia do allow for customers to buy one phone to use on any network

30. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

umm.. no not really. the costs would go down as there would only be one factory assembly line instead of 2 or 3 or more for different additions. Radios dont cost that much. Definately less than the cost of machinery, labor, and upkeep.

GSM and CDMA are a near 50/50 split in the world, so that old innacurate saying that CDMA isnt a world thing is wrong, its just more easily locked down per carrier.

The biggest reason that a carrier doesnt want a true world phone is that it gives people no reason to worry about contracts. If you could buy a subsidised world phone for 200 instead of the 500+ full retail, then pay a $200 ETF and then bounce carriers as often as you wanted, would you? I sure woud.. why not. The carrier loses money and has higher churn.. and you get freedom from their rules.. why would they want that?!

35. Scribed3d (Posts: 28; Member since: 08 Aug 2010)

Box,

Actually, as far as consumer, real world implementation is concerned, CDMA is a newer and more advanced technology than GSM. 1xRTT allowed for more channels per carrier frequency than its GSM cousin did. GSM is still, at its heart, a TDMA based technology. No matter how fast the intervals are, time division multiplexing cannot compete with code division.



This is why, after EDGE, GSM went with a cdma based system in UMTS and its subsequent evolutions in HPSA. In fact, disreguarding LTE, CDMA champion QUalcomm had a path for EVDO similar to that of HSPA. With rev B, (some called it Rev N... the N meaning how many carriers you wanted to stack) you coud stack frequency channels much like what is done with WCDMA (the heart of UMTS, etc). Each EVDO channel is 1.25 MHz in size where WCDMA is 5MHz channel. Stacking 4 EVDO channels would give similar performance to 14mbps HSPA. However, further development of both Rev b and Rev C (later known UMB) was dropped when the vast majority of the world's carriers decided on LTE and WiMax as their 4G of choice.

42. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

u just made my head explode..

wow.. thats pretty hard.. good job. :)

46. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

I would be in favor of any tech that allows for @box last line of his comment: Being able to buy ANY device and use it on ANY network. I would LOVE to snag a HTC Sensation and use it where I want.....

7. AndroidOS (Posts: 100; Member since: 21 Jun 2011)

I hope it comes before school starts.

13. HAHA (unregistered)

Haha good one. Im waiting for the HTC Holiday on AT&T.
But this sounds nice....i just dont want too wait too long. I might just save up and buy this off-contract.