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Snapdragon 820 chipset with "revision 2" spotted on Geekbench test of unknown device

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A Geekbench test of an unknown device listed only as "Rain Rain A3000," reveals that a second revised version of the Snapdragon 820 is being produced. Other Snapdragon 820 powered handsets that have appeared on the benchmark site, like the unannounced Xiaomi Mi 5, are listed with revision 1 of the chip under the hood.

Last week, the LeTV Le Max Pro became the first smartphone to be announced with the Snapdragon 820 SoC inside. That phone also carried revision 1 of the Snapdragon 820 SoC when it was benchmarked. The chip features a quad-core CPU that employs Qualcomm's own Kryo cores. Also included is the Adreno 530 GPU. There is some speculation that in the first half of 2016, Qualcomm will offer a version of the Snapdragon 820 with an octa-core CPU. The report, which we told you about last November, said that several phone manufacturers like Samsung, Huawei, ZTE, Sony and LG are committed to the use of octa-core CPUs.

At the moment, we have no idea what the revisions to the chipset entail. There has been some concern that the Snapdragon 820 SoC suffers from the same overheating issue that affects its predecessor. Perhaps some revisions were made related to that problem.

While the Rain Rain A3000 is unknown, we do know that it contains 4GB of RAM and is pre-installed with Android 6.0.1.

Geekbench test of unknown device shows a Revision 2 of the Snapdragon 820 chipset

Geekbench test of unknown device shows a Revision 2 of the Snapdragon 820 chipset


via GadgetzArena

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posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:09 10

1. LittleGaGaKiller (Posts: 283; Member since: 19 Jan 2015)


AND HERE COMES THE FLAWS WITH VERSION 1! EVEN BEFORE IT GETS RELEASED!
DEAR CUSTOMER: instead of cooking your favourite steak on your phone that has our sooo hot prosessor like you always liked, we have reduced the heat in version 2.0 this time! So you get the delicious juiiicy steak that you've always dreamed of!

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:41 14

7. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3919; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


The article stated that version 1 is a quad core processor and version 2 is rumored to be an octa core processor. Nowhere in the article did they say anything about heat issues, so other than assuming that they're having similar issues to those of the 810, there's nothing to support your statement.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 13:14 3

16. Subie (Posts: 544; Member since: 01 Aug 2015)


Here's a quote from this very article: "There has been some concern that the Snapdragon 820 SoC suffers from the same overheating issue that affects its predecessor"

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 19:11 5

42. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3919; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Saying that there's concern about it's overheating doesn't mean it's actually overheating, it's speculation.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 00:15 4

49. Subie (Posts: 544; Member since: 01 Aug 2015)


You said that nowhere in the article did they say anything about heat issues. My quote from the article contradicts your statement.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 07:21 4

67. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3919; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


You're correct that it was mentioned, but it from what I understood it doesn't necessarily have anything to do for a reason why they have a version 2, just that some people are worried it's going to be like the early 810 series were.

I have a Nexus 6p and it's 810 actually runs cooler than my Droid Turbo's 805 did. But everyone needs to complain about something and why not assume that the 820 will have the same issues the early 810s did. I mean really, before the 810 happened, the QC chips weren't really bad, they weren't the top necessarily, but they were up there. But after the 810 everyone seems ready to write off whatever comes next.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 15:50 3

28. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


It isn't octa as you see.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 02:37

56. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


where it state that version 2 is octa core? please read carefully before commenting... this article is talking about the revision 2 of the same quad core sd820... octa core news is additional information, which is apart from sd820 revision 2...

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 03:25 1

60. tedkord (Posts: 10675; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Those scores really hurt you.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 09:44

73. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1206; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


AND HERE COMES THE TROLLS! STATING FLAWS! EVEN BEFORE IT GETS RELEASED!
Seriously, get a life.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 11:13 1

76. may_czos (Posts: 718; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


That's a total BS. It's normal to make many prototypes to tweak settings, fix bugs etc. Revision 2 simply means that we're close to the final version, bugs are fixed. All Qalcomm procesors on the market are revision 2!

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 13:31 1

82. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Well pointed out! All SD820s in phones will be the revision 2.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:13 3

2. Captain_Doug (Posts: 990; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


2287 single core? Wow. Can't wait to see the battery performance benchmarks.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:27 4

3. w1000i (Posts: 66; Member since: 22 Jul 2015)


hahahahha, I don't understand how people just assume that v2 means v1 is bad.
Qualcomm some times offers 3 versions with different clock-speed and other small deference.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 02:42

57. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


I hope v2 will be better than v1, without having any thermal throttling... unlike a thermal throttling in sd810... whole 2015 is already pretty much f**ked up due to the heating fiasco of sd810... I dont want another year in mobile industry to be eaten by the same issue

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 03:40

62. RoboCop999 (Posts: 2; Member since: 10 Jan 2016)


I think it should be fine. The anandtech mate 8 review showed that the cortex-a72 can run 3 cores without throttling for 15minutes. If snapdragons run into trouble they can go back to a72.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:29 6

4. abdoualgeria (Posts: 324; Member since: 27 Jul 2015)


A3000 .... is that you ' one plus 3 ' ??

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:39

5. Bondurant (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)


Yuck.

HUAWEI NXT-CL00 (a.k.a Huawei Mate 8)
Multi-Core Score 6056

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:42 2

8. abdoualgeria (Posts: 324; Member since: 27 Jul 2015)


mate 8 in anandtech's test get 6300

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 14:25 9

21. UglyFrank (Posts: 1606; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


However the GPU has only half the power of the S820/8890.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 15:49 7

26. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


Even less.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 00:44 1

50. lpratas (Posts: 272; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


Half?! Or a third?

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:40 1

6. wargreymon (Posts: 678; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


Considering how early we see the rev 2 it could be safe to assume only prototypes rock the rev 1.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:43 1

9. abdoualgeria (Posts: 324; Member since: 27 Jul 2015)


qualcomm should stay with costum core in SD830

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 11:13

77. may_czos (Posts: 718; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


They will.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:47 1

10. shield (Posts: 225; Member since: 12 Sep 2015)


Oneplus 3 A3000 . A2005 is Oneplus 2

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 12:53 14

11. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


Rev. 1 never gets released to the public. Even the LG G Flex 2, which performed terribly had SD 810 rev. 2, and all other 810 phones had rev 2.1. Rev. 1 is only for developer platform and supposed to be used on their testing devices, not consumer products.

A3000 seems like oneplus's next phone, but the rain rain makes that kinda untrue. Also the oneplus one was A2001

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 13:00 3

12. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


I guess oneplus two was A2001/2/3/4/5. Also in the leaks, oneplus two was called spring A2003. So rain rain can be true as both are related to seasons.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 13:25 5

17. Khyron (Posts: 53; Member since: 28 Sep 2015)


Does the sd820>A9?
Sd820 manage 4k devices
2k and 4k resolutions
Wifi 802.1
Lte cat12
530gpu most powerful around
A9 and A9x are puling less features
In lightweight OS enviroment

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 15:49 1

27. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


PowerVR>Adreno

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 16:32 1

30. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2241; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Not Really.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 02:57

58. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


Sorry but it is really so.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:19

83. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


PowerVR runs at impressive clock speeds, but lacks the latest Open GL & ES support like Adreno.

posted on 11 Jan 2016, 05:07

86. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


It doesnt. Read the specs.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 23:58

48. mitchytan92 (Posts: 82; Member since: 02 Mar 2015)


Not really from the result. The Aderno is finally quite impressive.
I think now Mali is the worst of all.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 01:00 3

53. lpratas (Posts: 272; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


Mali T880MP12 is even better than Adreno 530.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 01:05

54. mitchytan92 (Posts: 82; Member since: 02 Mar 2015)


Oh wow. I just google and read about it. It is just rumours for now but if it is true, SD820 will again a step behind Exynos. Thanks for the info.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 00:59 1

52. lpratas (Posts: 272; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


There is where you are mistaken. PowerVR GT7600 of six cores FP32 is much inferior to Adreno 530 and Mali T880MP12.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 02:59

59. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


Don't trust synthetics or you'll be fooled by impressive numbers "on paper".

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 14:22 1

84. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


We aren't fooled by benchmarks. Even in real-world tests: Adreno > PowerVR.

posted on 11 Jan 2016, 05:08

87. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


In all real world games PowerVR = Mali > Adreno. It's a well known fact.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 11:14

78. may_czos (Posts: 718; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


Not this time.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 18:34

40. stanislav (Posts: 136; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


Don't know about A9 but A9x will be way more powerful both in CPU and GPU performance

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 01:07

55. mitchytan92 (Posts: 82; Member since: 02 Mar 2015)


Yeah but it is kind of a tablet chipset so it is kind of unfair to compare.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 04:38

66. stanislav (Posts: 136; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


Most android tablets are using phone socs like 810, 805, 801 exynos 5420. The only exception i think is the Nvidia one ?

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 21:32 3

45. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


A9x is out of the league of 820. So we shouldn't even talk about that. Regarding A9, it has more powerful CPU compared to 820, but 820 has better GPU.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 04:10 2

64. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1514; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I was going to say the same: A9 has a bit better CPU while 820 will have a bit better GPU.
Overall pretty similar performnace, depends on your workload what will be better.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 04:29

65. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


I think it's too close for that and the real performance will be more dependent on the main memory(frequency and size of RAM) and the speed of storage.

Apple is using NvME based SSD. Time for android manufacturers to catch up.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 09:06 1

71. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1514; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


With the amount of RAM most high end have in Android, the storage speed is hardly unnoticeable on most workloads, save the heavy taxing ones. I agree that there is some catch up to be done, but it may not be as noticeable as you may think at the end of the day.
Even most benchmarks for storage end up only testing the RAM, not the real storage.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 09:33 2

72. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


The main issue is the eMMC. It's a half-duplex link so only read or write can be done at one time. If you try to open an app which is not in RAM while downloading something, or updating an app, the system will slow down.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 07:47

68. Khyron (Posts: 53; Member since: 28 Sep 2015)


Waiting forma vulkan this year
This CPU And GPU configuration of SD820
Gonnna improve a lot with vulkan implementation con android N
So let's wait to see the results
Agains The performance of A9 and powervr
But how how ANDROID OEMS can catch up the NAND performance tha Apple has this is the real bottleneck for the new chips

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 08:11

70. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


Samsung is already ahead in random I/O. They only have to match the sequential I/O of the SSD in iPhone.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 11:15 1

79. may_czos (Posts: 718; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


A9 has about 10% faster single core but it's slower in multicore, it also has worse GPU. 820 is a beast.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 15:47 1

85. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Exactly! So 820 outguns A9.
period

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 23:56 1

47. mitchytan92 (Posts: 82; Member since: 02 Mar 2015)


Thermal Throttling is a factor as well.
Apple chipset always might not get the highest benchmark score, but they fare pretty well in maintaining high performance for long period of time.

Even if SD820 does not have overheating issues like the SD810, the Apple chipset still handle heat way better than other chipset like SD808 and SD805.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 00:50

51. lpratas (Posts: 272; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


Adreno 530 GPU it isn't the most powerful around. Seem to me it has the same power or less than Mali T880MP12 of Exynos 8890.

posted on 10 Jan 2016, 07:53

69. Mr.Z. (banned) (Posts: 32; Member since: 08 Jan 2016)


With 1Mb cache, instead of 512k

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 13:03

14. abdoualgeria (Posts: 324; Member since: 27 Jul 2015)


v2.1 is had just More Memory Bandwidth, Higher Clocks than v2

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 13:03 1

13. Khyron (Posts: 53; Member since: 28 Sep 2015)


Probably it's the new snapdradon 820A

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Jh_eICIpM&time_continue=65

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 13:08 2

15. abdoualgeria (Posts: 324; Member since: 27 Jul 2015)


i find sd820's multi-core lil weak for 2015 flagships
nuclun 2 : 6400
exynos 8890 : 7400
helio x20 : 7000
kirin 950 : 6300

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