Snapdragon 820 chipset reportedly overheats in testing; Samsung to the rescue?
posted by Alan F. / Oct 27, 2015, 9:44 AM
One report says that Samsung will try to fix the software with a patch that it plans on delivering inside of a month. If that fails, the company could add a "radiating pipe" that would help draw the heat out of the chip. Samsung is using the 14nm FinFET process in manufacturing the eagerly awaited component. The Snapdragon 820 SoC has 40% faster graphics performance, and consumes 40% less battery power than the Snapdragon 810 chip, which was built by TSMC using the 20nm process.
Many upcoming flagship models like the Xiaomi Mi 5 and the aforementioned Galaxy S7, and high-end models expected from LG and HTC, are being designed with the Snapdragon 820 in mind. If overheating is an issue with the Snapdragon 820 SoC (and not everyone says that it is), it could put Qualcomm in a financial dark hole that it might never recover from.
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source: BusinessKorea via GforGames
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make antarctica on chipset.......
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 9:47 AM 1
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That's it. Time for OEMs to use Exynos...if this continues to overheat.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 12:21 PM 3
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Exynos has overheating problems as well, and typically they were worse than Snapdragon, up until the 810. The Exynos in the Galaxy S6 overheats and throttles up to 40%, which is marginally better than the 810's throttling. There is no real world usage difference between the two besides if you have an android device not being able to flash new roms on a device with a exynos chip.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 4:42 PM 7
Lol are you serious? Lol Qualcomm just can't seem to stop screwing up.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 9:51 AM 7
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Calm down Justin Bieber, all CPUs overheat if you push them to an extreme (CPU frequencies and workload.) You think the A9 or the Enyxos chips don't overheat? Some chips are better than others, two different 820 chips may perform differently due to manufacturer defects on the nodes too... in some cases these differences are pretty large. From the little I've heard the TSMC version of the 820 seems to actually run better for whatever reason. Lets wait and see.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 2:55 PM 7
They better hope that Mediatek and Hisilicon do not use Mali-T880MP6 or above.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 9:53 AM 10
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perhaps instead of fixing overheating issue with new chip that offers unnoticable performance improvement. use an old chip, lower the price, add more features.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 9:54 AM 3
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Older chips don't have 64bit capability
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 9:56 AM 1
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yea... uhm thats an Exynos 7420. all S6's have the 7420 lol. unless youre talking about samsung upgrading the 7420, and not taking the S820, with lets say a much beefier GPU and tuning the cores a bit more to have a higher frequency.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 4:34 PM 1
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How about they stop trying to make the chips smaller & smaller and work on perfecting the current technologies? I bet that the reason the 810, and now the 820, were/are overheating is because of how close together the transistors are.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 9:57 AM 5
There is less heat and lower power consumption when they get smaller and not more. If there is more it suggests a problem with the design or the manufacturing process itself. So long as there are no issues with the process (i.e leakage), getting smaller is always a good thing.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 10:38 AM 15
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Good news. All Android phones that use 820 needs to be mandatorily be IP 68 certified, so that after every 30 minutes of use they can be dipped in cold water.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 9:59 AM 24
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Samsung saving everyone this year.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 9:59 AM 14
More like Samsung saving themselves, even now manufacturers are STILL releasing phones with SN810. They never learn.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 11:37 AM 2
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They are the closest thing to a hero we got. You know, they actually put in the r and d to give us pricier hardware instead of saying 1080p is enough or 1710 mah is enough, we will just charge you 4K prices and 5000mah prices for them because our software is enough. Enjoy the peace of mind of getting pricy hardware even if it needs a heat pipe because you know other companies wouldn't even bother unless there is a heat gate. Samsung is probably the one that will do a heat pipe before a heat gate.
posted on Oct 28, 2015, 6:23 AM 0
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Samsung has a lot of capital and manufacturing capablitlies so I expect them to use it for, and do a lot of, r&d, same as apple (except bigger). This sounds like your saying super luxury car makers are the automotive heros because they make features that subaru doesn't have. Samsung has the capital and market share to take a chance on these luxury features at a high cost. Which is great, for them and the people that can afford it. I'm pretty sure if other phone makers had the same kind of capital and manufacturing capablities, they would also be pushing higher specs on the market. They're definitely not charging for 4k, 5000mah prices or in any case, less than samsung though. I don't have it out for them, I'm just not as enamored with them as you guys are. Reminds me of iphone users.
posted on Oct 28, 2015, 10:47 AM 0
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As long as it overheats less than the 810, we're good to go.
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 10:00 AM 2
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Exactly. People don't realize that chips this powerful don't need to be max clocked; pushing them to the max and expecting them not to heat isn't all that reasonable. Even at as slow as 400mhz, the GPU in the 810 was more powerful than any of qualcomm's previous GPUs (other than the 420). Drop the clock, optimize, and watch Moore's law be flipped on its head! That's what I'll be doing on my Z7C :-)
posted on Oct 27, 2015, 3:38 PM 1
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