Snapdragon 820 chipset reportedly overheats in testing; Samsung to the rescue?

Snapdragon 820 chipset reportedly overheats in testing; Samsung to the rescue?
For those who were counting on the Snapdragon 820 chipset to wash away the memory of the overheating Snapdragon 810 chip, there is some bad news. Reports are circulating that the Snapdragon 820 SoC overheats like its predecessor. With Samsung manufacturing the Snapdragon 820, and planning on employing the chip for certain versions of the Samsung Galaxy S7, the manufacturer is working on a solution.

One report says that Samsung will try to fix the software with a patch that it plans on delivering inside of a month. If that fails, the company could add a "radiating pipe" that would help draw the heat out of the chip. Samsung is using the 14nm FinFET process in manufacturing the eagerly awaited component. The Snapdragon 820 SoC has 40% faster graphics performance, and consumes 40% less battery power than the Snapdragon 810 chip, which was built by TSMC using the 20nm process.

Many upcoming flagship models like the Xiaomi Mi 5 and the aforementioned Galaxy S7, and high-end models expected from LG and HTC, are being designed with the Snapdragon 820 in mind. If overheating is an issue with the Snapdragon 820 SoC (and not everyone says that it is), it could put Qualcomm in a financial dark hole that it might never recover from. 

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source: BusinessKorea via GforGames

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1. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

make antarctica on chipset.......

39. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

That's it. Time for OEMs to use Exynos...if this continues to overheat.

58. Plutonium239

Posts: 1081; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

Exynos has overheating problems as well, and typically they were worse than Snapdragon, up until the 810. The Exynos in the Galaxy S6 overheats and throttles up to 40%, which is marginally better than the 810's throttling. There is no real world usage difference between the two besides if you have an android device not being able to flash new roms on a device with a exynos chip.

2. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Lol are you serious? Lol Qualcomm just can't seem to stop screwing up.

52. Niva.

Posts: 434; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

Calm down Justin Bieber, all CPUs overheat if you push them to an extreme (CPU frequencies and workload.) You think the A9 or the Enyxos chips don't overheat? Some chips are better than others, two different 820 chips may perform differently due to manufacturer defects on the nodes too... in some cases these differences are pretty large. From the little I've heard the TSMC version of the 820 seems to actually run better for whatever reason. Lets wait and see.

66. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

maybe he benchmarks his phone all of the time.

3. carlemillward unregistered

They better hope that Mediatek and Hisilicon do not use Mali-T880MP6 or above.

31. Shubham412302

Posts: 544; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

atleast kirin 950 has great cpu performance but gpu seems to be 860

4. NexusX

Posts: 610; Member since: May 16, 2013

perhaps instead of fixing overheating issue with new chip that offers unnoticable performance improvement. use an old chip, lower the price, add more features.

5. superkuiken

Posts: 168; Member since: Mar 24, 2013

Older chips don't have 64bit capability

32. NexusX

Posts: 610; Member since: May 16, 2013

current chip in gs6 does

57. crzykiller

Posts: 85; Member since: Jan 03, 2015

yea... uhm thats an Exynos 7420. all S6's have the 7420 lol. unless youre talking about samsung upgrading the 7420, and not taking the S820, with lets say a much beefier GPU and tuning the cores a bit more to have a higher frequency.

6. skymitch89

Posts: 1446; Member since: Nov 05, 2010

How about they stop trying to make the chips smaller & smaller and work on perfecting the current technologies? I bet that the reason the 810, and now the 820, were/are overheating is because of how close together the transistors are.

25. Shocky unregistered

There is less heat and lower power consumption when they get smaller and not more. If there is more it suggests a problem with the design or the manufacturing process itself. So long as there are no issues with the process (i.e leakage), getting smaller is always a good thing.

56. guest

Posts: 365; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

Problem is it's not Intel making them it's samsung and TSM. Another generation or two and Intel will have the power of PC in mobile SoC form factor.

33. DnB925Art

Posts: 1164; Member since: May 23, 2013

Exynos and Apple A9 are built on 14nm and they are not having overheating problems.

7. manojmcn

Posts: 631; Member since: Jul 16, 2015

Good news. All Android phones that use 820 needs to be mandatorily be IP 68 certified, so that after every 30 minutes of use they can be dipped in cold water.

34. DnB925Art

Posts: 1164; Member since: May 23, 2013

LOL Good one. +1 joke of the day

8. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

Samsung saving everyone this year.

35. Shocky unregistered

More like Samsung saving themselves, even now manufacturers are STILL releasing phones with SN810. They never learn.

47. downphoenix

Posts: 3165; Member since: Jun 19, 2010

Nah, everyone, since Sammy can always stick with Exynos.

60. greyarea

Posts: 267; Member since: Aug 14, 2015

Not when they're planning and production was based on using 820. Samsung is no consumer hero.

67. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

They are the closest thing to a hero we got. You know, they actually put in the r and d to give us pricier hardware instead of saying 1080p is enough or 1710 mah is enough, we will just charge you 4K prices and 5000mah prices for them because our software is enough. Enjoy the peace of mind of getting pricy hardware even if it needs a heat pipe because you know other companies wouldn't even bother unless there is a heat gate. Samsung is probably the one that will do a heat pipe before a heat gate.

70. greyarea

Posts: 267; Member since: Aug 14, 2015

Samsung has a lot of capital and manufacturing capablitlies so I expect them to use it for, and do a lot of, r&d, same as apple (except bigger). This sounds like your saying super luxury car makers are the automotive heros because they make features that subaru doesn't have. Samsung has the capital and market share to take a chance on these luxury features at a high cost. Which is great, for them and the people that can afford it. I'm pretty sure if other phone makers had the same kind of capital and manufacturing capablities, they would also be pushing higher specs on the market. They're definitely not charging for 4k, 5000mah prices or in any case, less than samsung though. I don't have it out for them, I'm just not as enamored with them as you guys are. Reminds me of iphone users.

55. medtxa

Posts: 1655; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

Damn but that 'radiating pipe' wouldn't fix battery efficiency problem. It just make the phone bearable warm on your hand.

9. Carl3000

Posts: 240; Member since: Oct 11, 2014

As long as it overheats less than the 810, we're good to go.

54. SYSTEM_LORD

Posts: 1168; Member since: Oct 05, 2015

Exactly. People don't realize that chips this powerful don't need to be max clocked; pushing them to the max and expecting them not to heat isn't all that reasonable. Even at as slow as 400mhz, the GPU in the 810 was more powerful than any of qualcomm's previous GPUs (other than the 420). Drop the clock, optimize, and watch Moore's law be flipped on its head! That's what I'll be doing on my Z7C :-)

10. torr310

Posts: 1602; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

It is caused by the global warming I think.

11. Finalflash

Posts: 4049; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

If this turns out to be true then Qualcomm is dead. They'll go down the Nvidia route, from being in everyone phone (tegra 3) to nothing.

12. Plasticsh1t

Posts: 3083; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

Snapdragon 818 to the rescue.

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