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Seattle bar bans Google Glass

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Seattle bar bans Google Glass
If there ever was a real-life definition of putting the horse before the cart, it would be the action of The 5 Point Cafe in Seattle which has banned Google Glass, even though it won't be sold to the general public until later this year at the earliest. Owner Dave Meinert posted his ban on Facebook where he added that "ass kickings will be encouraged for violators." Why ban Google Glass? Meinert says that he wants to protect his customers. He admits that his bar is a notoriously seedy place and no one wants to have his or her picture taken at the bar and have it posted online.

This is what Google Glass wearers will look like says The 5 Point Cafe

This is what Google Glass wearers will look like says The 5 Point Cafe

It all harkens back to our recent article on whether or not Google Glass is the privacy-killer that some in the media believe that it is. Our point, and it is valid in this case, is that anyone can bring in a camera and take the same pictures that Google Glass would take. And as far as we know, camera are not banned at the 5 Point Cafe.

The whole thing, from the comment about "ass kickings" to the fact that the bar is within drinking distance of Amazon, makes this sound like a cheap way to get publicity for the bar. Owner Meinert has become a darling of the Seattle media and told them that, "The 5 Point appeals to a wide variety of people. Some of the tech geeks come here, we're close by Amazon...It's OK if you wear them. I just don't want them worn inside."

"For the record, The 5 Point is the first Seattle business to ban in advance Google Glasses. And ass kickings will be encouraged for violators...First you have to understand the culture of The 5 Point, which is a sometimes seedy, maybe notorious place. People want to go there and be not known … and definitely don’t want to be secretly filmed or videotaped and immediately put on the Internet."-Dave Meinert, owner, The 5 Point Cafe

source: The5PointCafe, KIRO via AndroidAuthority

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posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:30 9

1. Droiddoes (unregistered)


His establishment, his rules. I bet some pencil neck does try and do it though, screaming about his first amendment rights (which do not apply to a private business) and then sues him for discrimination.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:31 5

2. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 9901; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I don't really trust Google with the idea of this concept they're trying to push. It's way too easy for privacy to be violated this way.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:34 20

7. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2696; Member since: 26 May 2011)


How is it any easier to violate someone's privacy using Glass than with any other camera, or smartphone?

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:38 3

8. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


it has a camera pointed forwards everytime you use it

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:44 7

9. jroc74 (Posts: 5951; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


And my cell phone does too. How would you know if I was taking a picture....or using my phone?

It would be good to read Micheals article on Google Glass and privacy...

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:57 2

16. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


well we all would see when you point a phone , but this thing is like having a go-pro strapped to your head and it records videos and images even if you use the restroom

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 10:57

63. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


hey rakithapeiriz i garuntee you will never see me point my phone at u if i wanted to take your pic. I can make it look like im playing a game, textin or just have a small phone in the palm of my hand that u dont even know is there. Your point sir is invalid

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:16 5

27. Alan01 (Posts: 344; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)


Click the link on the story to see Michael's article.

Alan F.

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 05:32

60. boosook (Posts: 1402; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


search for "spy glasses" on google... why don't you scream and shout against spy glasses, then? At least, Google Glass can be easily recognized.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:52 6

13. lyndon420 (Posts: 3645; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Don't pay any attention to him. If it doesn't have an apple logo on it, it ain't good enough to him.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:58 2

20. iS-Aha (banned) (Posts: 11; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)


And he will never response nor reply to any posts, shows how he is Trolling.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 14:43 1

38. Aeires (unregistered)


And yet people still reply to him. He should be completely ignored, not even thumbed down because that's attention.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 15:08 1

41. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Thumbs up for that one. He doesn't like anything thats not apple related

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 08:28

61. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 9901; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Because the camera can't potentially send data to Google. Smartphone, depending on which one it is, I'd agree. But not all smartphones would do so. Even so, usually on a smartphone if any data is being sent, it's the user's data. With Google Glass, it just doesn't seem like protects privacy at all.

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 16:03

71. Droiddoes (unregistered)


You mean like that disgusting company apple? You know, the company that transmitted location data of users even if they declined it? And also took photos of their users and uploaded them to a server?

You really do need to seek help. Real talk.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:46 4

11. Droiddoes (unregistered)


You DO understand that the second you leave your home you give up all expectations and rights to privacy, correct? Of course you don't.

P.S., no one will be taking your picture. I suspect your face is just as ugly and offensive as your personality.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 19:34

51. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Now that is a DUMB comment.

So when you leave your home to go outside and then decide you need to use a public restroom at a public park, YOU ARE NOT giving up all expecations and rights to privacy (in the public restroom). However, Droiddoes doesn't get this point.

There are expectations of privacy, even when in public, such as but not limited to, locker rooms in gyms, changing rooms when buying clothes, bathrooms, some casinos, some movie houses, etc.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 19:36

52. Droiddoes (unregistered)


Someone doesn't understand how the law works. At all.

You may sue a business owner for doing that, but there are NO criminal liabilities there. You clearly do not understand the difference.

Great job taking it to the extreme and blowing it out of proportion though.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 19:39

54. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Droiddoes, you should learn to write (well). You are being a sore loser bringing up the criminal element after I found huge sinkhole gaps in your argument.

There ARE NO security cameras in the bathrooms or in the locker rooms or change rooms BECAUSE the public EXPECTS privacy in these places.

I am sorry you lost the argument, so MAN UP!

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 11:05

65. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Hey ardent Most store do have cameras in changing rooms just so you know. And I have seen lots of Gyms with hidden video cams for security reason in locker rooms as well. Just saying but then again youve been to ever locker room and dressing room in the world right?

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 11:41

67. Droiddoes (unregistered)


Ok I will "man up". You took it to the absolute extreme, congratulations. Because the discussion was totally about security camers in bathrooms.

Feel better? Was that the highlight of your life? Enjoy your great victory.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:50 1

32. tedkord (Posts: 9650; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Correction: You don't like Google. And that is simply because they ate beating Apple.

Had Apple invented this, you would be touting the innovation.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 19:36

53. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Apple is working on the iWatch as opposed to the iGlasses for a reason.

More people would use a watch than glasses.

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 11:10

66. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I strongly disagree. More people would use glasses then a watch. Most people now a days only wear a watch for looks not to actually tell time. And the iwatch is pretty ugly def not something you wear with a suit. The glasses are way more usefull and easier to use. If im going to look down to look at a screen id use my phone with can do everything not my limited watch that i over paid apple for. The glasses on the other hand are always ready at the blink of an eye.

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 12:48

70. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


And the glasses are wayyyy more innovative than a watch I mean see through glass lens screen... Just take my money!

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:51 1

33. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Oh, but you will of course trust apple's version of it, right?

You are so full of it it's a wonder how the earth doesn't collapse under your feet when you take a step.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 15:43

44. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 501; Member since: 07 May 2012)


then dont wear it in the bedroom/bathroom.

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 10:55

62. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Why did you really hate google huh. I bet if apple came up with this first youd love it right. It is a lot easier to use your cell or any tiny camera to sneak a pic fo someone then a big pair of glasses.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:32

3. jsdechavez (Posts: 714; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Seen this coming.. More to follow.. haha

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:32 1

4. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


I guess the reality of it is, when people see this device or put it on they get the idea in their head that they now have x ray vision or some how now become robo cop or someone lol.....its in peoples nature to take a good thing a use it for immoral or selfish reasons.

To remedy this perception we can maybe show people how its used and for what purposes. I suggest getting people to somehow watch youtube videos of others doing "proper' things with the device, because technology shouldnt have to suffer or be withdrawn because of a few that wish to use it for their own low and selfish desires.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:33 3

5. aokde (Posts: 186; Member since: 09 Jul 2012)


i agree with every word said. cheap way to get publicity. but hey, kudos for him to know the right way to publicize his bar.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:33 1

6. lyndon420 (Posts: 3645; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Sounds like the kind of place that would roll you for your iDevice.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:45 3

10. jroc74 (Posts: 5951; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


So.....this owner think its harder to take stealth pictures with a cell phone?

Interesting....

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:53 1

14. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


Haha.....its just the idea of having a futuristic looking device on your head in a bar that's all this really is

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:21

29. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


well the problem is the FRS type scanning software the Google Glass will use , so if you are a ninja with a smartphone recording stealthy , you cant do it when looking at people directly , or going for a wee , well google glass can ,(unless you remove it and use it when needed)

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:57

17. EspHack (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


if they were lumia glasses no one would blame it for privacy concerns

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 12:58

19. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


Micro$oft !!!

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:04 1

21. iS-Aha (banned) (Posts: 11; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)


Wow this thing is amazing. It surely should record in 1080p 60Fps, and have 12MP SONY camera, Xmor sensors and optical zooms. There should be 5 designs available, ile take the more modern, contempt look glasses with fine materials used in production.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:12 1

24. N-fanboy (Posts: 543; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)


Dear PA, you are overly optimistic about this thing... Why is that? Coz right now i could think of a million evil things that could be done with the GG. Like sextape blackmail n stuff...

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:15 1

25. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


or how about someone showing a episode of pokemon giving people Seizures http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/02/the-banned-pokemon-episode-that-gave-children-seizures/

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:16 1

28. DWillyEfect (Posts: 52; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


Google probably pays sites like this to hype their products.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:55 1

34. tedkord (Posts: 9650; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


But I'll bet you can't think of a single evil thing you could do with an iPhone.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 13:23 1

30. technut (Posts: 61; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)


The guy posted his ban on Facebook and has an issue with privacy... Pff

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 14:11 2

36. tedkord (Posts: 9650; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I have wholly different concerns about google glasses - I'm worried that we're going to have people driving while watching video or surfing the web.

I suppose that once google perfects that driverless car, it won't be an issue. But I'm not sure I'd ever be able to feel safe in a driverless car.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 18:21

50. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


As a motorcycle rider I would be more interested in recording the ba$tards that talk and drive on the phone.

But then again people would be afraid to do anything in public because everything would be recorded and can be used against you. Why make a car go 100mph when a pedestrian can turn you in.

This invention could change everything we do in society bad and good. That's why people are now afraid. What your seeing is just the beginning of this tech. In a few years it will be so small you would not even notice that your being recorded by everyone in the room.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 15:02

39. N-fanboy (Posts: 543; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)


I mean like getting a girl a little drunk and wear'n this thing while in action then bam! ... 'Blackmail', coz if u use a phone she'd say ''wtf r u doin?"

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 15:39

43. roscuthiii (Posts: 2109; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


I think wearing the glasses alone should pretty much keep that from being an issue.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 15:05

40. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Why ban a product when its not available too consumers

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 18:14

48. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Fear!!!

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 15:43 1

45. roscuthiii (Posts: 2109; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


"The 5 Point appeals to a wide variety of people. Some of the tech geeks come here, we're close by Amazon...It's OK if you wear them. I just don't want them worn inside."

So... as long as they're not worn right? Fine, leave them on the table and start recording then. Ah, loopholes. Gotta love'em.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 17:34 1

46. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)


when Apple violated in a way Autralian police or whatever fandroids scream for Apple's head and that Glass violates a business policy.. they still defend Google.. it seems the the fandoids are blinder the the Apple followers...

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 18:19 1

49. Droiddoes (unregistered)


WTF are you on about now? Jesus christ man, have you EVER formed a coherent sentence?

posted on 11 Mar 2013, 03:47

73. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)


u dont hav 2 reed me... u hav a shoice don not read me move on...

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 18:13 1

47. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


I bet many people and businesses are going to freak out. Even the cops have the added pressure to do everything by the book 110%. These glasses are going to be banned at concerts, movies, strip clubs, bathrooms and many other places that I can't even name.

Google could end up changing how we proceed in life. Everything could be recorded from the first person perspective and just wait until these glasses look like normal glasses. I would love to see professional athletes where these. Imagine a dunk or a touch down catch from the player view. Even the porn industry would go nuts.

That's why I laugh when people compare Google glasses to a smart watch. Google could change our lives in a few years. Only new privacy laws can stop Google.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 21:00

55. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


And for that kind of money. I can get a good pair of normal shades and a high end phone

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 22:58

58. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


About 20 years ago I still remember those so called portable bag phones and brick sized pagers. We are only looking at the first generation. In a few years you won't be able to tell who's wearing these glasses vs regular glasses.
I'm betting that special laws will be made to identify if your wearing smart glasses or a serial number tied to the picture/video. Just walking into a theater would be illegal with a recording device like this. There are plenty of locations that do not allow recording devices.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 21:53

56. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


Googles goal is to eventually have these look like 100% normal glasses so they won't be able to tell. What are they going to do after they get google contacts?

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 22:47

57. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


What if the iWatch has a camera on it, they won't ban it right?

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 05:30

59. boosook (Posts: 1402; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Search for "spy glasses" on google or any search engine: why all this fuss about Google Glass where I can buy a pair of spy glasses where the camera is also hidden? At least, if you see somebody with GGlass you understand immediately what he's wearing, while with a pair of spy glasses I can go in front of a school and take as many pictures of children as I like. And it's legal. So why don't they ban spy glasses? Or glasses at all?
The truth is that Google has started to bother some IT giants like MS or Apple that cannot compete with Google with ideas and innovation and so are trying to stop them with every other means (patents, or by spreading FUD, see the scroogled campaign by MS).
I'm wondering what would have happened if Glass had been made by Apple: would people and the media have been complaining like they are doing now or Apple Glass would have been magic, awesome and innovative?

posted on 11 Mar 2013, 03:40

72. DHILLON_ARSH (Posts: 66; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)


PUBLICITY MY FRND....

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