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Samsung working on the second S Pen stylus generation, to fool the screen it is touched with a finger

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Samsung working on the second S Pen stylus generation, to fool the screen it is touched with a finger
Samsung patent submitted before the USPTO reveals that the company might have already developed the second generation of its famed S Pen stylus for capacitive touchscreens. The first S Pen can be found on the Galaxy Note 5.3" phone, but the patent reveals many more features that might be coming for the next Note or tablets like the Galaxy Note 10.1 that might use it.

Samsung working on the second S Pen stylus generation, to fool the screen it is touched with a finger
The next S Pen is bound to have NFC connectivity, and a built-in clip for voice communication, like the stylus on the Asus PadFone, which can be used as a headset for talks.

What's more, there will be a conductive ePen Grip rubbery material towards the tip, which will be sending micro-current from your body to the capacitive display, thus fooling it that it is touched with a finger, and eliminating or reducing the lag that is often associated with these styli.

source: PatentBolt

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posted on 14 Jun 2012, 09:12

1. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


You mean Samsung is working on a pen that most people use with their hand (typically a thumb and a few other digits) just to fool the screen that it's only one digit.

A lot of these features are typically solved by software as opposed to hardware.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 09:57 2

5. nicholassss (Posts: 348; Member since: 10 May 2012)


Well I cant think off the top of my head of any but it might be useful in a situation where you need a little more accuracy. Since the pad of your fingers is broader than the stylus.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 10:54

11. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


I can think of several situations where you might use a stylus like a resistive touchscreen. The last time I used a stylus with a resistive screen was the Nintendo DS series. Good riddance.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 13:05 2

13. protozeloz (Posts: 5370; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I dont know, I kinda dig the idea a bit, if it helps improve the non intrusive input from lets say your other hand It could "revolutionize " how we use tablets for work, to be honest a tablet with a stylus (more than a phone and probably 7") could be awesome to take handwritten notes like notebook, and the stylus input method being similar to a pen makes it more comfortable to write it down instead of type it down, add a powerful OCR system and say bye bye to the on screen keyboard and hello to the new speed

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 21:48

17. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


protozeloz, you want the manufacturer to go backwards. Technology is about advancement. Everything you stated such as "take handwritten notes" or "instead of type it down", etc can be solved with better software.

We don't need an on screen keyboard or a stylus if the software does a better job with voice, dictation, etc. The problem is the software is not ready yet.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 18:21

14. pegasso (Posts: 133; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)


it would be usefull if you're using your phone/tablet in cold winter.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 21:44

16. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


They aleady have gloves that can work with smartphones in the cold winter.

Here's an example:http://www.rei.com/product/803525/the-north-face-etip-gloves

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 23:42

18. Dr.Phil (Posts: 893; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


I guess you're not a Galaxy Note owner, or else you would see that this would be a pretty significant upgrade. The current S-Pen on the Galaxy Note is good, but I can tell a difference between writing with the pen and writing with my finger. There is more lag when writing with the pen than there is when drawing with my finger. This would probably also help the pen to feel more natural while writing on the slick surface because it would feel like it was your finger doing it. I think you need to pick up a Galaxy Note and try it for yourself.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 02:56

20. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Sorry, but you are wrong in your assumptions. I did test the Samsung Note for a good amount of time and good software beats the hardware interface.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 10:35

21. Dr.Phil (Posts: 893; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


There were no assumptions. If you look at the quote from the source itself: "The new stylus pen apparently uses the micro-current of the human body to allow the multi-touch screen to think it's a finger. This translates into the stylus pen having the same fluidity as you would get using your finger on a multitouch tablet yet with a finer tip. This could take out some of the lag that is traditionally associated with older generations of stylus pens."

Also, if you understood how capacitive touch screens worked you would understand that they work by detecting anything that is conductive of electricity. That's why the stylus that works on say your old PDA will most likely not work on the Galaxy Note because it does not have a way to conduct a current. The stylus on the Note has a special material on the tip that allows it to conduct a current to the screen. That is why you are able to press that button on the stylus itself and it know to take a picture of the screen without the need for batteries on the stylus itself. So, by improving the way that the current is transmitted to the tip of the stylus (and by improving the material of the tip of the stylus as well) you will be improving the responsiveness as well as how it FEELS to write on the screen.

I am not assuming anything, but putting forward basic facts about how the stylus interacts with a capacitive touchscreen. Even if you found that software could help improve the responsiveness of the stylus (which I'm not debating it doesn't help some), it does not change the fact that by updating the material used on the tip of the stylus to feel more natural (like the same feeling as putting your actual finger to the screen) will help tremendously. Not to mention that by the looks of it, they are also making the tip more fine point which is another plus.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 09:25 7

2. PimpStrong (Posts: 310; Member since: 25 Jul 2011)


Samsung is breathing new life into NFC and Stylus technologies. Apple will put it into iOS7 and call it their Magic Wand.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 09:28 8

3. kyan- (Posts: 29; Member since: 25 Apr 2012)


iWand©®™

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 09:55 1

4. PimpStrong (Posts: 310; Member since: 25 Jul 2011)


lol nice

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 11:19

12. Sangeet (Posts: 232; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


LOL, exactly the same thing came to my mind after reading PimpStrong's comment

made me laugh so hard..!!
and a it more funny with the Registered, Copyright and the TM mark. LOL!!

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 19:16

15. jukenon (Posts: 3; Member since: 14 Jun 2012)


LOoooool

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 15:55

23. hiBreed (Posts: 90; Member since: 29 May 2012)


Lol! Good one

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 15:55

22. hiBreed (Posts: 90; Member since: 29 May 2012)


My thoughts exactly

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 09:57 1

6. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


That's pretty cool, and I guess it will be a Godsent for those with certain disabilities that makes it hard or impossible to use digits. I prefer using my fingers, though.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 10:50

9. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


If it's hard or impossible to use with digits, then it wouldn't be a stylus. That's why software is the way to go.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 10:04 2

7. destr0y3r (Posts: 33; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


Fandroids : wwwooow its revolutionary!

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 10:13 2

8. plgladio (Posts: 311; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Yeah when Apple names that after few years live by other Company.

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 10:52 3

10. frydaexiii (Posts: 1185; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Of cause it's revolutionary. Comparing this stylus's "revolutionary" and iOS 6's "revolutionary" is like comparing the creation of a real car and a Hot Wheels model.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 01:05

19. thelegend6657 (unregistered)


Samsung should stop copying asus
Or
Asus should patent its ideas?

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