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Samsung receives a patent for a force-sensitive touchscreen display

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Samsung receives a patent for a force-sensitive touchscreen display
Samsung has just received a new patent for a "touch display apparatus sensing touch force". The South Korean manufacturer states that although such force-sensing touchscreens already exist, most of them require a separate force-sensitive sensor, which unnecessarily increases the production costs of the dispay.

Samsung's solution, however, suggests that this additional sensor can be omitted, as the company intends to implement a tiny force-sensing processor into the display itself. This processor includes an electrode resistor and a reference resistor. Both of them are connected to several very thin layers of piezoresistive materials, either graphene or carbon nanotube, which have different resistances. These layers are situated inside the display.

Once you press your finger against the display, the layers provide the miniature on-display chip with feedback about the duration of the touch input. Then, the tiny processor determines whether "the touch is a soft touch or a hard touch". According to Samsung, no additional processing chips are necessary.

Yet, no one can tell when or if Sammy will implement this technology into its mobile devices.


source: USPTO

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posted on 06 Mar 2014, 09:50 6

1. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3316; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


Resistive touchscreen lol?

Ok Ok I know this isn't even the same kind of thing.

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 10:17 4

4. akki20892 (Posts: 3653; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Bring a hammer for me. I wanna touch screen hardly.

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 11:33 1

7. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Please dont jinx us and talk that back up.

Soooo glad capacitive screens are the norm now. That almost made me dump my Omnia 1 and go to AT&T for the iPhone in 2009.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 05:41 1

20. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


man i Had an Omnia1 too!! you too suffered the wrath or the resistance too?!?! welcome home Brother!, for the war we fought with our omnias were Real!! the camera was great!! sure!! 5megapxls in 2009!! in America!!! lols took better pics that the iphone!!! oh, an the Optical touchpad!! i know you were sold Too!!, once u saw that the "phone" had a laptop-like "mouse pad"!!! ANNDDD it was a touch screen!!! that ran Windows Pro!, not some crappy symbian OS!!! (android was nothing in 2009 ppl). it even had 8GB of storage ONBOARD!!!, and Still had Expandable memory to a 32GB SD card!!! even had a Google Maps Download...WITH Navagation!!! yea i thought this Omnia phone was an iphone Killer Too, but that damn RESISTIVE touch screen just got worse, and worse... and more worse.... n to the point i was stabbing the damn screen almost w/ the stylus. and ALSO it would like "save" all ur txt messages on the phones "internal" memory 0_o .....NOT the damn 8GB internal storage it came with. to the point it would fill up the memory with Txts n ur phone was so low on memory, it was Bricked practally!!! like this was the phones worst flaw honestly. o n the final nail was the "App store" wasnt that, more like a back alley where they would try n rob u blind with usles productivity apps that woulda sucked on the phone itself with all these other problems.

so once sprint came out w/ 4G, i jumped of my shltty omnia to an EVO 4G. THAT phone was an iphone killer baby! (i live in Los Angeles County, so i Actually had, n still do have the 4G service) phone left me with such a bad taste for vzw i still havent paid my last bill from them LOOOOOLLLL!!!!! but they get the last laugh, kuz now i dont qualify to be Granfathered in for unlimited data any more on t that beautiful 4G LTE network they built D': ...oh well.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 05:59 1

21. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


*******read this one, not the other******

maaaann..... i Had an Omnia1 too!! you too suffered the wrath or the resistance too?!?! welcome home Brother!, for the war we fought with our omnias was Real!! the camera was great!! sure!! 5megapxls in 2009!! in America!!! lols it took better pics that the iphone!!! With a DEDICATED shutter button, that was oh soooo beautiful!!! oh, an the Optical touchpad!! i know you were sold Too!, once u saw that!!! it made the "phone" have a laptop-like "mouse pad"!!! ANNDDD it was a touch screen to boot!!! (kinda like a foreshadowing of how windows works now days with windows 8) that ran Windows mobile Pro!, not some crappy symbian OS!!! (android was nothing in 2009 ppl). Even had M$ office suite mobile! i could edit, & start new word docs, xcell docs, even edit & start new Powerpoint docs!! it even had 8GB of storage ONBOARD!!!, and Still had Expandable memory to a 32GB SD card!!! even had a Google Maps Download...WITH Navagation!!! ……yea i thought this Omnia phone was an iphone Killer Too, but that damn RESISTIVE touch screen just got worse, and worse... and more worse.... to the point i was stabbing the damn screen almost w/ the stylus. and ALSO it would like "save" all ur txt messages on the phones "internal" memory 0_o .....NOT the damn 8GB internal storage it came with. to the point it would fill up the memory with Txts n ur phone was so low on memory, it was Bricked practically!!! like this was the phones worst flaw honestly. oh n the final nail was the "App store" that wasn't, more like a back alley where they would try n rob u blind with useless "productivity" apps that woulda sucked on the phone itself with all these other problems.

so once sprint came out w/ 4G, i jumped off my shltty omnia to an EVO 4G. now THAT phone was an iphone killer baby! (i live in Los Angeles County, so i Actually had, n still do have the 4G service) that phone left me with such a bad taste for vzw i still havent paid my last bill from them LOOOOOLLLL!!!!! but they get the last laugh tho, kuz now i dont qualify to be Granfathered in for unlimited data any more on that beautiful 4G LTE network they built D': ...oh well.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 13:09 1

34. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


lol...Yea... It was so bad with my phone I could only type on my phone in landscape mode. The screen got messed up bad, fast.

But I gave up on mine quick...I missed Google Maps or didnt know about it at the time. I tried so many hacks to get free GPS on my phone.

I got the Droid 1 in early 2010 and havent looked back.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 17:53

36. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


i almost bought an iphone back then, but its camera HAD NO FLASH back then, n also couldnt RUN FLASH on websites. so those two things kept me away from iphones. i might have been able to do w/out running flash online, but no Camera flash?? on a good as hell (at the time) camera the iphone had??? made NO sense whatsoever.
apple has just always lagged behind tecnologicaly speaking with the field. they never get all the gud Tech shizzle in their phones in time.

yea the google maps on the omnia, u had to go directly to googles compatability page n download the app from there. but....it was a wonderfull app!!! even with the shltty screen. mighta kept usin my omnia if the txt msg memory problem didnt exist.
n android phones at the time of the G1, it looked like a glorified Sidekick (remember those?) which wasnt bad. but it was on T-mobile, Before t-mobile was bad ass. lol all my friends that had t-mobile were still "running out of minutes," so yea i was like g-h-e-t-t-o!!! lols, lil did i know how beautiful the app store would become. i mean, could u blame me?? do u REMEMber how bare the windows mobile app store was?? i thought surely "who would make apps for anything but an iphone?" thank the Lord i was wrong!!!

low key....i still use the Omnia1 as a Back-up camera incase my actual camera dies......its that good!!

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 12:05 6

8. sgodsell (Posts: 1437; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


I could see this used in some games. Hard press on the screen for rockets, mild press for machine guns. If they can get different levels of sensitivity on the users touch. Then you could even make an on screen piano that responds with different levels of sound for each piano key that is hit.

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 17:36 1

15. Ashoaib (Posts: 2429; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


Wow.. it will be awesome then

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 06:00

22. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


yes it would be

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 08:15

31. Ishmeet (Posts: 111; Member since: 16 Sep 2013)


Cool idea.

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 09:58 1

2. AfterShock (Posts: 2971; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


I'm curious though, is this really better for the end user?
I doubt end user will see a lesser costing phone.
So?

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 12:22 3

9. KillgoreTroutTime (Posts: 398; Member since: 06 Jan 2014)


Couldn't it make passwords more secure by introducing another variable?

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 06:01

23. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


soooo true!!! give tha man a gold star!!! ......n a beer :D

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 18:13 1

16. Stuntman (Posts: 784; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


Here's how I would like it to be used. I hate the fact that when I am typing on a touch screen, the moment I touch the screen, it registers the key I am pressing. What I would like to see is a light touch would show visually what key my finger is over and then a harder touch would register pressing the key.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 06:06

24. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


exactly!!! its why i made the jump to touch screens so late. its also y i bought an Omnia 1 when it came out, kuz it was a resistive touch screen (see my previous post above for some laughs). also when the blackberry storm came out i was excited about that too, but it too was a major flop kuz of Major, MAJOR software bugs & glitches. the demo units in the vzw stores were so unusable, they would have probably sold more BB storms if they had Demo Dummy units out there. (god i hate those). so yea thats the one thing i hate most too about capactive, touch screens, but its the best we have 4 now.

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 10:15 5

3. Klamba92 (Posts: 206; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)


The force is strong with this one! Sorry couldn't help it.

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 13:50 1

11. tedkord (Posts: 5270; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Ha! That should make this display darkkjedi approved.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 06:10

26. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


lols!!! man, F that apple picker!!!

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 20:32 1

17. aksa123 (Posts: 232; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)


"Oh no! Don't touch me! I'm too sensitive down there", said the phone.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 06:09

25. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


LMAAOOO!!! where is that foo neways?

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 10:28

5. mmmanuuu (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


Could be for the Galaxy S-Pen Phone !

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 10:49 1

6. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


This would be good for music production apps... Reminds me of velocity sensitive pads that drum machines have...
....................
Come on Microsoft!!!

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 13:25 1

10. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Come on Microsoft? Says Samsung received the patent.....

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 14:34 3

12. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Come on MS as in start coming up with some cool $hit for smartphones... Gimmick, or not, Samsung is alive in consumers eyes!

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 15:16 3

14. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Ahhh I see.

Yea...Samsung ....even tho I dont really like their phones....try to one up the competition with specs n features. Gotta give them props for that.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 06:12 1

28. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


oohhh... well ur right bout that

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 06:11

27. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


i know right... what?!?! 0_o

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 14:56 1

13. Droidsoc (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)


This would be good for under water use as traditional capacitive screens dont work underwater.as in the "touch" doesnt work underwater.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 06:12

29. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


hey!!! u too sir, get a beer from me!!!!

posted on 06 Mar 2014, 23:57 1

18. alumoyo (Posts: 237; Member since: 26 Aug 2013)


Just bring back the resistive screen why don't you!!! No thanks Sammy, NO THANKS!

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 06:14

30. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


lols o gosh..... read my Omnia1 (Resistive Touch) horror story in a comment up top

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 10:09 2

32. alumoyo (Posts: 237; Member since: 26 Aug 2013)


The resistive screen is a crime against humanity - the other day I encountered some poor lady struggling with her Nokia Asha 306 which had already lost sensitivity. If I had met her in a shop buying that garbage, I would have given her the extra 10 bucks to get the capacitive Asha 309 myself. Felt so bad for her, and always hated Nokia for keeping those things around for so long. Its a blatant rip off! Thank God they are almost TOTALLY GONE now. Also had a friend who once asked me to recommend her a phone a few years ago. it was in the VERY EARLY days of android (around that same Omnia era) so I recommended the Samsung S5230W Star Wifi - which was very pretty for girls back then. Six months later, her resistive screen was REALLY acting up. She wasn't too pleased with me! She swore off touchscreen phones for years: did Blackberry ONLY until eventually being seduced by iPhone 5.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 17:39

35. reckless562 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


lols.... had to be an iPhone she got seduced by....... low key...... i did want one back then, but its camera HAD NO FLASH back then, n also couldnt RUN FLASH on websites. so those two things kept me away from iphones. i might have been able to do w/out running flash online, but no Camera flash?? on a good as hell (at the time) camera the iphone had??? made NO sense whatsoever.
apple has just always lagged behind tecnologicaly speaking with the field. they never get all the gud Tech shizzle in their phones in time.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 00:43 1

19. garyII (Posts: 160; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)


i am always impressed by the amount of efforts Sammy put into research aspect.

posted on 07 Mar 2014, 10:51

33. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 665; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


Good one.. This will be great in drawings/paintings on Tablets... Cool.. FTW

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 08:41

37. N-E-X-U-S (Posts: 8; Member since: 22 Sep 2013)


They really are going back in time!

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