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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820 rumored to come with 3.0GHz Kyro CPU, Samsung tipped as the manufacturer

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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820 rumored to come with 3.0GHz Kyro CPU, Samsung tipped as the manufacturer
A new report from China claims that Qualcomm has finalized the spec sheet for its upcoming Snapdragon 820 chipset, and that the chip maker is now sending Snapdragon 820 samples to smartphone manufacturers.

Back at MWC 2015 in March, Qualcomm teased its upcoming high-end chip, the Snapdragon 820, revealing that the upcoming SoC will integrate custom-designed 64-bit CPU cores called Kyro. If this new report is to be believed, the Snapdragon 820's Kyro CPU cores will be clocked at up to 3.0GHz, and the new chip will be manufactured using Samsung's 14nm node manufacturing technology. 

This is not the first time we're hearing rumors of Qualcomm jumping the TSMC ship and partnering with Samsung to manufacture its upcoming chip, but the suggested CPU core frequency is new information. However, one very important details that is currently missing from the equation is the number of CPU cores that the Snapdragon 810 will make use of.

The report suggests that companies such as Sony, HTC, and Xiaomi will be the first smartphone manufacturers to test out the new chips. According to 'reliable sources' quoted by the Chinese report, Xiaomi has plans to include the Snapdragon 820 in its upcoming Mi 5 flagship, a smartphone that is said to be launched this October if the new chip behaves well in tests.

The real question now is whether the Snapdragon 820 will be able to solve the overheating issues that have plagued the Snapdragon 810, a chip manufactured by TSMC on 20nm. Given that the Snapdragon 820 is said to be manufactured using Samsung's 14nm node process, which is the same technology that Samsung used to manufacture the Exynos 7420 chip that powers the Galaxy S6 series, a noticeable improvement in thermal performance is to be expected. 

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posted on 25 Jun 2015, 22:59 12

1. NotAGeek (Posts: 279; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


Samsung as the manufacturer?alright no worries for overheating anymore

posted on 25 Jun 2015, 23:02 22

2. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


Finally they realized who is best in the business. Kudos to Sammy and SD for this.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 03:09 2

25. Simona (unregistered)


DON'T go ahead with events when you don't know what surprise awaits !

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 08:25

45. gersont1000 (Posts: 385; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


That profile pic...wow!

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 03:33 6

31. nuldolor5x.com (unregistered)


To be tested by Sony, HTC and Xiaomi, sounds like an effort to compensate them for the poor sales due the burning SOC 810.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 06:55

42. neela_akaash (Posts: 1216; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


Everything is fair in Love, War and Business.....

posted on 25 Jun 2015, 23:15 10

6. waddup121 (unregistered)


BASED SAMSUNG TO THE RESCUE!

No more wildfires and daily CNN reports on the S810 outrage anymore! wew!

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 01:04 12

17. limporgyuk (Posts: 277; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)


Yuk, you Samsung fanboys make me sick. You're grown men for goodness sake, you sound like One Direction fans

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 02:21 13

21. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


It's not Samsung fanboys who make u sick. Seems to me you are already sick for some other reasons.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 02:35 4

22. limporgyuk (Posts: 277; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)


You have just prooved my point with your comment. Were you sad when Zayn left?

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 03:11

26. Simona (unregistered)


I can't believe they are in TOP chart youtube subscribers on 6th place
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_subscribed_users_on_YouTube

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 03:14 3

27. Pinocchio (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 14 Apr 2015)


Why are you so butthurt by such a comment? Don't have any better comments, just don't comment at all then problem solved Sony fanboys!

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 03:28 5

30. Shocky (unregistered)


I haven't seen any comments that warrant that response, you need to get a grip.

This makes perfect sense for qualcomm, also happens to be great news for Samsung as well.

But best of all it's great news for us because the next snapdragon SoC will probably not overheat!.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 07:52

43. medicci37 (Posts: 1288; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


Exactly limporgyuk lol

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 08:11

44. limporgyuk (Posts: 277; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)


Thanks mate, these babies won't let anyone criticise their beloved Samsung without crying 'butthurt'. It's embarrassing

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 11:03

51. marorun (Posts: 3922; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Samsung will only build the chip following the plan developped by... Qualcomm.

They do have good soc building maufacture but thats its.
IF anyone else had 14 nanometer or 10 nanometer out Qualcomm would have chosen them first.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 12:36 1

56. CultDude (Posts: 4; Member since: 24 Jun 2015)


Designing a low-distance node fab process is far more difficult than designing a SoC and custom cores.

The 14nm FinFET process allows Qualcomm to make design rules that are not possible in 20nm planar fabs. Don't try to downplay Samsung's role in the 820's development.

posted on 27 Jun 2015, 06:20

68. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)


Well Samsung only manufacture the CPU bit designing it or anything and it's not doing it for free so if the result was good it's Samsung's power and if it's bad it's qcom false i think the opposite.

posted on 25 Jun 2015, 23:30 10

9. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


TSMC had no share in the Sd810 heating. It was the chip design that was faulty. They clocked the chip a bit too high and used a custom CCI which further favored performance. As a result, the chip stays at higher clock than it should be and hence it throttles.

TSMC 20 nm process was also used for Apple's A8 and A8x chips and it didn't have any problem.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 02:04 5

19. Nathillien (unregistered)


Yeah, but A8 didn't perform much better than A7.
Pointing at TSMC.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 02:08 3

20. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


The A8 did perform exactly as expected. It was supposed to be a 20-25% performance bump as it was a minor improvement.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 03:14 5

28. Simona (unregistered)


Apple chips are useless bcos they don't have such stress as on android .. where FULL OS running and iOS is just shell no processes at all ..

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 04:24 4

35. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1539; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I don't fully agree with that, TSMC only develop a LPE version in 20nm because their decission of not using FinFET.
Therefore the SoCs that were planned for high frequencies like SD810 suffered the consecuencies of that decission (not having a high performance variant), as LPE doesn't play nice with high frequencies.
So yes, it's partially the fault of TSMC.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 04:33 4

36. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


Qualcomm decided to go with them. if TSMC can't provide them with LPP manufacturing, why go with them. And where is Qualcomm's QC ensuring that the clock is not too high.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 08:48 2

47. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1539; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


A SoC design takes 3 to 5 years, so when the decission is taken normally they have to guess part of the future, in this case probably that either 16nm FinFet or at least som kind of High Performance would be ready for SD 810.
TSMC promised those kind of technologies and didn't deliver either, so I see as partially guilty of the failure.

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 12:11

52. marorun (Posts: 3922; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


ITs called a mistake :)

They made one mistake in past 5 year where samsung failed several time with Exynos.

Now they learned from it and wont use TSMC until they upgrade the manufacturing process.

posted on 27 Jun 2015, 01:16 1

67. rnagic (Posts: 162; Member since: 13 Jul 2014)


One mistake? Overheating has been an issue since the beginning of the 800 series. I still don't understand why any phone needs to be clocked over 2 ghz.

posted on 28 Jun 2015, 08:14

70. Simona (unregistered)


bcos small kiddos play stupid gamez. it is just for them..

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 01:05 1

18. My1cent (Posts: 370; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)


As a matter of fact, all CPU heat up with intense usage! SD810 would perform real well with a heatsink ;-)

posted on 26 Jun 2015, 03:07 2

24. Simona (unregistered)


Selling with fans ?

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