Motorola Moto X camera samples leak, confirms 10.5MP at 16:9
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1. wendygarett (unregistered)
Android = Asian
sorry moto... No space for you anymore :(
2. PapaSmurf (Posts: 4229; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Wendy, please do us all a favor and at least try to contribute topics/point for discussion and not troll for once.
4. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4487; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Android = Asian"
Could you explain that?
10. wendygarett (unregistered)
Name one of the western oem eclipse in android world...
Samsung? LG? Huawei? ZTE? Sony? HTC? Micromax?
Let face it, moto is weak, Apple is weak, blackberry is weak, Nokia is weak, Dell and HP are weak too...
15. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4487; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Name one of the western oem eclipse in android world..."
Here is some not Asian companies:
And so on...
16. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2577; Member since: 26 May 2011)
While Wendy has been banned for trolling, I do have to say that (s)he has a point, although a terribly stated one.
The most powerful companies in the Android ecosystem are Asian. You could certainly argue that Android wouldn't be where it is today without the support of Samsung, HTC, Huawei, ZTE, LG, and Sony.
Your list of non-Asian companies reads like a bargain bid manufacturers list (with the exception of Moto), so you're not helping your case much.
Of course, Wendy went overboard in saying that Apple and Nokia are "weak", those two are essentially the best the non-Asian world has to offer, and neither makes Android devices.
19. jdoee100 (Posts: 260; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Well, android is still Google's baby. Unless Google somehow becomes asian, I would disagree with wendy(or wendan if it's male).
23. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Is this a case of lack of manufacturing resources? One of the reasons Samsung has sailed to the top is because they're completely vertically integrated. At least on the international releases, they supply the display, the CPU, the GPU, leaving them only to screw it all together. No other company has that level of self-determination. LG is close, since they make their own IPS screens, but they still rely on Qualcomm chips.
Motorola has been at a disadvantage in the spec race, particularly since they chose SAMOLED over LCD, because they can only use the best components the competition (Samsung) is willing to part with.
31. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4487; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Yes, I agree with that. I just think that wendygarett should express his minds more clearly because such expression like a "Android = Asian" can be very different understood.
32. Commentator (Posts: 1874; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
PhoneArenaUser missed the most important non-Asian company of them all: Qualcomm. Semiconductor companies rarely get the publicity that the Samsungs, HTCs, and LGs get, but Qualcomm, and to a lesser extent Nvidia, TI, and Intel have been extremely integral to Android's ascendance.
35. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I am proud that Qualcomm is US-based. Does anyone know where they do their manufacturing?
22. predator93 (Posts: 117; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
Alcatel phones are made by TCL (Chinese Corporation). TCL bought the rights to use the Alcatel name.
Apart from Motorola unless Nokia starts making android devices very few western companies can compete with the asian companies.
8. xperiaDROID (Posts: 3748; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
"Android = Asian"?? This is the worst comment I have ever seen in PA.
Android is from Google, since when did Google become an Asian company? I think you need to see a doctor, Wendy.
11. SleepingOz (Posts: 2016; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Android is Google's property, so is Moto.
I don't think Google will let them down and Moto has made some pretty good phones lately. I wish more oems would do like Moto and adopt composite materials for their products.
38. taikucing (Posts: 618; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
STFU wendy. Don't be racist. I'm Asian too and I love Motorola. And Google is American. Entry level Samsung, LG, HTC phones are overpriced compared with entry level Motorola phones. Some random Chinese phones are crap except lenovo & oppo.
3. valapsp (Posts: 416; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
The first photo looks to be from 1970 and the girl looks so anonymous!!! We want more Motorola.
5. boosook (Posts: 616; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Well, it's too early to judge the camera... the indoor sample is not bad, the kids picture is not so good, but the point is that we don't even know the camera's additional features: does it have at least an optical stabilizer? After the Nokias and the HTC One, every phone that claims to have a "killer camera" should have one, otherwise it's just a phone like the others. Does it have HDR? (probably yes). What else? Xenon flash? (probably not, too bulky) Dual led flash with different colors? (probably not, it's patented by Apple) Dual led flash, at least? (hope so) So, until we don't know the exact specifications of the camera and see more samples, we can't say anything about its quality.
7. flynfree (Posts: 364; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
It will intrigue me, bring it on moto!!!
Maybe moto have something to show in the table,
and Goodluck. ;-)
9. raunak (Posts: 458; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Not sure if those two people at the back of first photo are real or ghosts.
12. amats69 (Posts: 733; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
those sample picture looks like taken from a 5 year old phone..a 5MP phone? sorry MOTO..i expect more on this MOTO X
14. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 725; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)
"because very few smartphone cameras shoot in a 16:9 aspect ratio"
Last time I checked every new Lumia has the option to shoot in 16:9 and the N8 and 808 both do as well. I also know that my Razr Maxx has the option too. So what the heck are you talking about?
18. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2577; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Compared to all of the Android and Apple devices in the world, the Lumia line amounts to "very few". You've simply found the exception that proves the rule.
29. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 539; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
What? When i first read the article i thought you were referring with that sentence that few smartphone cameras are predefined, or made to shoot at 16:9 format, HTC gives you choice between 4:3 and 16:9 on the One with 16:9 being the predefined and using the full 4 megapixels. Often changing the format results in losing megapixels. My previous One X shooted at 8 megapixels on 4:3 and 6 megapixels on 16:9.
20. PermanentHiatus (Posts: 229; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
f/2.4 aperture won't pull enough light in a bright situation? WHAT?!
PA should really refrain from talking about photography.
21. techloverNYC (Posts: 143; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)
moto x did not get me as excite as when the nexus 4 was release.....
24. jordan30589 (Posts: 15; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
My Galaxy S3 can shoot 16:9, my Galaxy S4 can shoot 16:9 at 10MP or 4:3 at 13MP. Common PA please get informed before making these type of statements, almost every smartphone today can change their aspect ratio when taking pictures, even though most of the time sacrificing MP.
25. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
"even though most of the time sacrificing MP"
That was exactly Michael's point. The Moto X is shooting in native 16:9, whereas the S4 does 16:9 by cropping out the rest of the frame.
26. jordan30589 (Posts: 15; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
We will see when its released though because there's no way to find out if its native or not by the EXIF sheet info, because it shows the aperture, resolution, ISO, etc, just like if it was a picture taken with a phone with a higher MP count but cropped like you say. Anyway if that's what he was trying to say then cool, but it can be misleading.
27. Sniggly (Posts: 6221; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I would hesitate to judge the camera based on one image. When I used the Xperia TL a couple months ago at Comic Con Saint Louis, the 13 MP camera took mostly awesome photos. However, there were a couple of times when I had to retake the same photo because the lighting and colors came out weird, and on the reshoots they came out fine. I should mention that this was in a very well lit convention hall.
28. MistB (Posts: 509; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
This thing better deliver, cause from what I've seen from today's leaks don't give me much hope with the overall look. There better be a stand out feature other than the camera, if it doesn't have one defining technology feature such as the promised near artificial intelligence built in, i'm thinking what's the hype all about, the specs and stock android I could care less but without a distinct like functionality, this has me asking ''Is that it?''
30. GeekMovement (Posts: 1139; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
if i ever want my friends and family to have red faces i'll consider buying this phone.
33. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5180; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Specs so shameful of the X PHONE put paper bag over my head.
34. Sniggly (Posts: 6221; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You really need to learn to stop freaking out at *bad* news.
37. Second (Posts: 3; Member since: 26 Jun 2013)
Hmmm, I would like to imagine someone is trolling with these images, simply because one of the biggest complaints in the Droid Moto Razr lines of phones has been the camera. I would be saddened to find Motorola had not addressed this issue. Also, before anyone trolls this thread.... the camera that comes with any phone device I'm positive is included in the overall price of the phone; that being said, your paying for it, it should be good. There would be zero excuse for the camera on a phone in todays technological advancements to be bad in any sort of way.