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Microsoft might skip the Lumia 940 generation, go straight to Lumia 950/950XL

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Microsoft might skip the Lumia 940 generation, go straight to Lumia 950/950XL

"If nobody wants to make Windows phones, we will make them ourselves." This doesn't really sound like pep talk from Microsoft's CEO Satya Nadella, but that's exactly what he said in an interview yesterday

Microsoft is certainly capable of pulling this off, and, given that it already wrote off the Nokia purchase as a loss, whatever Lumias it churns out from now on, are only going to benefit the Windows ecosphere, even if they are not widely successful in the market. In fact, a Chinese tech blog dedicated to Windows Phone that has often broken credible leaks before, claims that Microsoft will skip a flagship Lumia generation, and go from the current Lumia 930 straight to the Lumia 950 and Lumia 950XL as titles for its upcoming top-shelf Windows Phone gear.

If this name switcheroo materializes, we could be looking at a Lumia 950 with a 5.2-inch screen with a resolution of 1080 x 1920. That works out to a 424ppi pixel density. A Snapdragon 808 is under the hood with a hexagon CPU and the Adreno 418 GPU handling graphics. 3GB of RAM is inside along with 32GB of internal-expandable storage. A 20MP PureView camera adorns the back while a 5MP front-facing snapper handles selfies and video chats. A triple LED flash allows you to take well-lit pictures in low-light conditions.

The Microsoft Lumia 950XL in its turn is tipped to feature a 5.7-inch glass with a 1440 x 2560 resolution. That gives the screen a 515ppi pixel density. The 64-bit Snapdragon 810 chipset drives the phone, carrying an octa-core CPU and the Adreno 430 GPU. 3GB of RAM is inside along with 32GB of native expandable storage. Like the Lumia 950, the camera on the 950 XL is said to come with a 20MP PureView snapper on the back, and a 5MP camera on the front. Both phones are expected to arrive in the fall, carrying the new Windows 10 Mobile out of the box.

source: WPXap (Weibo)

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posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:38 11

1. theguy2345 (Posts: 1212; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


Or, they were smart they would skip Lumia all together and call it surface.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:43 7

3. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


no... Lumia is a known name on smartphone , Surface isn't..

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:56 5

9. theguy2345 (Posts: 1212; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


Are you kidding? Surface is very well known, and lumia is mostly associated with low end phones. Surface on the other hand is premium, and luxurious. It is much more well known as well.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:57 1

11. mistercarter (Posts: 360; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)


but Surface as its own name means, it's for something bigger than a phone because it's a surface duh

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:59 1

13. theguy2345 (Posts: 1212; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


What does that matter? Slapping that name onto it will do more good than harm. People know and like surface. No one, outside tech circles, really knows or cares about Lumia.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:10 2

16. vincelongman (Posts: 4249; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


IMO it would be too confusing if they called phones Surfaces as well
Then you would have Surface 4, Surface 4 Pro, Surface 950, Surface 950 XL, ...

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:26 2

24. noler (Posts: 322; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)


Maybe just Surface phone --> next year, Surface phone 2.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:12 3

18. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


Lumia is a lot more well known than Surface ..
And no, its not just low end..

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 11:07 3

33. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Lumia is high end phone too.......

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:49

26. Shubham412302 (Posts: 431; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


it dosent matters but nokia has never use '4' in a phones model no. but microsoft released 430/435/640 etc

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:20

20. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 521; Member since: 07 May 2012)


Microsoft Surface Phone sounds Good. eagerly anticipating their next flagship. W10m has potential, I hope it gets a big cut of the pie

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 09:21

28. waddup121 (unregistered)


talk about a massive leap

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 11:27

34. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


What is essentially a "Surface" phone will come out early 2016 with an Intel x86 processor.

Those are the rumors at least.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 12:10 2

35. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1134; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


I think what they need to do is inspire manufacturers to bring back devices that back in the old day ran Windows Phone that had actual unique names. For example:

Samsung Blackjack
HTC Titan
LG Incite

Don't you all miss the old days when a device was just as unique as it's name? Nowadays we are getting locked into what I like to call the "german automobile" naming and designing structure which is: name your car after some letter/number combination and any updates or reiterations are just minor in nature and keep the playing field level with others (in other words: look MORE like your competition, not less).

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 13:48

38. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 521; Member since: 07 May 2012)


Yes, but they ran out of names, hence numbers. eg. galaxy s,s2,s3,s4,s5,s6

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 13:06

37. ricmdv (Posts: 28; Member since: 02 May 2015)


If they were really smart they would wait for the SD820.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:41 1

2. mistercarter (Posts: 360; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)


i just hope Microsoft reconsiders using those SoC if they plan to release these new flagships by Q4... go straight to SD820 PLEASE!!! be wise and do something right if you want to save W10

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:47 2

6. Cheezwiz (Posts: 430; Member since: 29 Dec 2014)


I couldn't agree more. If this is a Q4 handset, then they should at least benefit from the SD820.

The more I think about a L950 with an SD808, the more attractive a new Nexus (with an SD820) sounds.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:53

8. sip1995 (Posts: 1571; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


They go straight to Intel socs....

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:11

17. sgodsell (Posts: 3492; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


The problem is the current WP ecosystem does not support x86 hardware. So if they went with an Intel processor, then the current WP ecosystem would be useless. They may as well make a surface phone that runs legacy apps instead. Let's get real there isn't a lot of Metro or Modern apps, and legacy apps don't take advantage of the touch screen. Are you going to add a mouse and a keyboard to you phone? You can do that now to many phones, but then why buy a smart phone in the first place.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:23 1

22. noler (Posts: 322; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)


Windows 10 Mobile support x86 hardware and Windows 10 Mobile support all WP ecosystem(around 500,000 apps) regardless of the processor.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 16:37

39. sgodsell (Posts: 3492; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


If you built any WP apps, then you would know that the vast majority of those WP apps are optimized and compiled for ARM and not x86 processors. Compiled ARM programs don't run on x86 processors. However you can run ARM apps on x86 processors via emulation. But then there a speed issues. Not to mention emulating a processor and OS takes more storage and resources in general, and would eat a lot more of the battery.

posted on 16 Jul 2015, 12:31

41. elitewolverine (Posts: 5172; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


If you built win8.1 universal, the support is there. If you didn't, basically adding it to the studio project is all that is needed. Sure some tweaks here and there.

But no more than apps that needed updating for being broken going from android 2.x to 4.x or 4.x to 5.x (love hearing people blame the carrier for an app breaking cause of an update).

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:07 1

15. rsiders (Posts: 895; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


Windows Phone does not need the same specs to run more than efficiently akin to Apple. Look at how far the specs are between Apple and the top of the line Android phones even with only 1gb of RAM. Now I see the perception of having the latest and greatest but even the lowest end models will be able to run Windows 10 Mobile without a hitch. You can't say the same for Android devices.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:23 1

21. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 521; Member since: 07 May 2012)


i couldn't agree more, but i would still like to see some highend chips for w10m, especially in the graphics area

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 09:16

27. rsiders (Posts: 895; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


Yeah I'm with you on that as well. I just want to remind people of perception versus reality a little bit. I think they should throw everything into these new phones just for the mere perception of better specs equals better phone.

posted on 16 Jul 2015, 15:56

43. rtcinema (Posts: 8; Member since: 16 Jul 2015)


I don't see why they would. It would be nice, but it doesn't follow Microsoft's hardware strategy. The goal of the Lumia series isn't to be the next big thing. It's to showcase what windows 10 mobile is capable of and get OEMs to make the more top spec flagships. Windows doesn't want to scare OEMs off by making phones that are a direct contender. Think of it more like the Nexus line of phones. They're have good hardare, but usually not the "best" hardware.

Just look at the Surface Pro 3 tablets. They are by no means the most powerful windows devices, but they are an amazing combination of software, hardware, and peripherals.

I could easily see their strategy revolving around having an easy to use experience that comes with good, not great, hardware. A good camera, smooth OS, and long battery life would sell a great deal of people on giving it a shot.

Not to mention, the Sony Xperia Z4v launches around the same time frame and has practically the same internal hardware as what's listed here for the Lumia.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:44 4

4. jesus_sheep (Posts: 253; Member since: 18 Apr 2015)


Microsoft should sell themselves to Google.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:45 6

5. mistercarter (Posts: 360; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)


hell nah, the more competition the better for all of us

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:56 7

10. PhansMuneeb (Posts: 371; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


Lol, let me inform you kid Google can't afford Microsoft and vice versa. They are too big to sell.
Kids these days. Lol Still laughing. Thanks for the laugh.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 10:31

31. Pattyface (Posts: 1584; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


Google couldn't afford Microsoft bud

posted on 16 Jul 2015, 12:32

42. elitewolverine (Posts: 5172; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Google doesn't have the cash, their assest alone is double what google would even hope to come up with.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:50 4

7. sip1995 (Posts: 1571; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


Microsoft is also working on an Intel powered Windows Phone....

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 07:57 3

12. theguy2345 (Posts: 1212; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


You won't hear about it on this site though. This is PA, land of the clickbait.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 10:12

30. Spedez (Posts: 444; Member since: 29 Aug 2014)


So? WP is history. Get over it.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:02

14. jove39 (Posts: 1838; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Anything less than S820 in lumia flagship will send potential new buyers away...it seems Microsoft will give lumia phones a slow death.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:17 1

19. xnga123 (Posts: 51; Member since: 05 Dec 2014)


one feature that windows phones will always lack is the apple logo.unless you place a rotten apple logo on ur phone,it wont succeed no matter whatever you name it or whatever u put in it

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:32 2

25. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 521; Member since: 07 May 2012)


I feel sorry for you

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 08:25 1

23. phonearenarocks (Posts: 352; Member since: 26 Mar 2015)


Nobody likes the Windows until the crappy tile based UI changes.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 09:33 5

29. sip1995 (Posts: 1571; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


Your mama says the opposite.....

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 11:05

32. Swordylove (Posts: 186; Member since: 27 Jun 2015)


I would love to try Windows phone if they make a compact flagship or midrange with 4.0"-4.3" screen. But sadly they decided to follow the trend with all other phones making only giant phones except the extremely budget ones.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 12:24

36. NateAdam8 (Posts: 388; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


I'd get a W10M Flagship but it's gotta work with T-Mobile... Just me as far as I know.

posted on 15 Jul 2015, 22:18

40. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1536; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


To hell with all these DAMN RUMORS. Microsoft will you Pleases at the launch of Window 10
at the end of this month tells us the name and specs of a Windows 10 flagship smart phone
that will be coming out for sale this fall. People want to know if a new Window 10 flag ship
smart is not Vapor ware not real.

posted on 18 Jul 2015, 18:48

44. TerryCrowdey (Posts: 14; Member since: 22 Dec 2014)


Surface and Surface XL sound perfect then following models 2 3 4 etc.

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