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Leak spills all about the Snapdragon 835 chipset which will power 2017's high-end phones

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Leak spills all about the Snapdragon 835 chipset which will power 2017's high-end phones

Days before Qualcomm's Jan 6th keynote at CES 2017, where we presume the Snapdragon 835 processor which will power most of this year's premium smartphones will be fully disclosed, prolific information leaker @evleaks shared what appears to be an official press release containing key details about the chipset. Some of this information has already surfaced online, sourced from leaked presentation slides that were published on the Chinese social network Weibo. In all likelyhood, these leaks are legitimate, but if there are any surpises left to show, we imagine Qualcomm will be keen to let us know come Jan. 6.

The company boldly describes the Snapdragon 835 as "smaller, faster, and more energy-efficient than any chipset in history." It uses a 10nm design with over 3 billion transistors, staying 30% smaller, 27% faster, and 40% more power-efficient than its predecessor, the Snapdragon 820. Qualcomm says this will enable manufacturers to create thinner phones with larger batteries.

The Snapdragon 835 is described as 27% faster than its predecessor, the 820.

In addition, Qualcomm touts improvements to charging, battery life, camera capabilities, connectivity, and security. The company has given some interesting figures: 1+ day of talk time, 5+ days of music playback, and 7+ hours of 4K video streaming, with the Quick Charge 4 technology providing five hours of battery life for five minutes of charging. These values are presumably taken from a test device and provide a theoretical reference of what we can expect from a Snapdragon 835-powered phone. However, Android manufacturers use vastly different components from each other and implement them in their own peculiar ways. This means all SD 835 devices will deviate from these measurements, be it a little or drastically.

To push forward VR technology, Qualcomm designed the Snapdragon 835 to meet VR processing demands within strict thermal and power constraints. It offers 25% faster 3D graphics rendering and 60 times more display colors compared to the Snapdragon 820. It also supports scene- and object-based audio and audiophile-grade DSD audio. Motion tracking has been improved as well, with a 20% reduction in motion-to-photon latency and six degrees of freedom.

Photography has been improved with a new generation of 4K video stabilization (EIS 3.0) with advanced yaw, roll, and rolling shutter. Qualcomm has also introduced support for Dual Photodiode and enhanced the hybrid auto-focus framework to bring intelligent phase and lighting detection. The chip is also ready to handle a dual camera setup out of the box by incorporating the Clear Sight platform, which will let device makers experiment more freely with this technology.

Leak spills all about the Snapdragon 835 chipset which will power 2017's high-end phones

To deliver cutting-edge connectivity, the Snapdragon 835 is equipped with an X16 LTE modem and custom support for 802.11ad Wi-Fi networks. It supports peak download speeds of up to 10X faster than first-generation 4G LTE devices, along with 256-QAM digital signal processing, 4x4 MIMO, and up to 4X carrier aggregation. The modem itself has a 45% smaller footprint and a 60% improvement in power efficiency.

The Snapdragon 835 also features extended security, thanks to the Haven platform which provides three layers of security on SoC, device, and system levels. It can authenticate the user with pin codes, fingerprints, eye and face-based security, which means 2017 could see more devices with iris scanners or camera-enabled security.

Finally, Qualcomm is betting on machine learning, utilizing the Snapdragon 835's computing strength to enable features like object recognition for better photos, real-time hand-tracking for more immersive VR experiences, voice recognition for virtual assistants, and biometric authentication.

The Snapdragon 835 will be the chipset you'll be hearing about most often this year. On paper, it seems to be Qualcomm's finest processor to date. Hopefully, it will prove a strong successor to the well-regarded Snapdragon 820 that's powering your last year's flagship.

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posted on 02 Jan 2017, 23:07 6

1. Alter (Posts: 81; Member since: 25 Mar 2016)


Hopefully it turns out as well as it sounds.

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 00:13

9. vincelongman (Posts: 4822; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


The battery life and AR/VR improvements seem promising
The machine learning stuff is interesting too

posted on 02 Jan 2017, 23:39 7

2. zeeBomb (Posts: 2271; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


Touches the A9 but IMO hardly not even to the A10. Not even CES but I'm excited a lot!

posted on 02 Jan 2017, 23:45 7

3. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2373; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


High end Android SoCs should have more competition, Qualcomm is becoming like Intel, getting pretty lazy due to the lack of proper competition.
Meanwhile iPhones enjoy very powerful and efficient chips.

posted on 02 Jan 2017, 23:45 5

4. kiko007 (Posts: 4390; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


I didn't expect a miracle from QC. The GPU will be decent at least.....

posted on 02 Jan 2017, 23:48 7

6. Settings (Posts: 2037; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


Patents bottlenecks the competition even innovation.

posted on 02 Jan 2017, 23:59 6

7. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2373; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


That too, the current patent system is totally F'ed up, then USPTO is filled with people who don't know crap about tech.

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 18:57

19. Khyron (Posts: 226; Member since: 28 Sep 2015)


A10 SUCKS
HOW TO HELL A10 PERFORMS BETTER IF IN HANDLING FAKE MULTITASKING
MEANWHILE SD835 IS HANDLING ANDROID/WINDOWS
HIGH SPEED LTE CAT 16
HIGH QUALITY BT/ DAC
DUAL CAMERAS
VR/AR
AND STILL BLAZING FAST APP LOADING SPEED
SD 835 IS JUST A WONDER!!!

posted on 04 Jan 2017, 09:55

21. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 12262; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Why contour guys ever comparebthw SnapDragon to the A from Apple?

Can't touch it? You must mean the other way around.

The Snapdragon and even Samsung's own Exynos, pull far more and away more weight.

Saying a AMG Benz is faster than a Dodge RAM with a V10 isn't saying much, until you consider what is being.

Obviously a chip doing lwss, in this case a Benz will be faster, but it isn't doing anything. Considering a 3000lb car is lighter than a 4000 lbs truck.

But let's change the circumstances. Let's put a trailer hitch on both, and have them pull and identical boat weighting 10,000 pounds and see which one wins the race.

The A10 isn't doing anything. It's pushing graphics at 750/1080 vs 1440p+.

Yet even with 1/2 the cores, less than 1/2 the capabilities and all the weight I am pulling, the SnapDragon and Exynos provide better performance in things that actually matter. Like photo-processing, richer sound, better audio recording, longer playback times and more.

The S7 Edge, loops and plays a 4K native video for nearly 14hours straight, with the screen on. Can the A10 powered device do that? No.

So what exactly is the A10 doing that nothing can touch it?

Apple simple does better multitasking, because a phone multitasking a limited amount of apps and services, will be faster than a device having no .

Limitations have both benefits and drawbacks.

Even though the A10 is running a limited amount of functions, the phones have terrible battery life considering its specs.

The SD and Exynos overall blows the doors off anything with an A in its name.

Stop smoking them drugs dude.

posted on 02 Jan 2017, 23:46 5

5. Joosty (Posts: 187; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


Still not as good as the A10.

Different OS though!

Relax dorks, typed from my LG V20.

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 00:04 4

8. BradyCrack (Posts: 784; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


Will never compete with apples chips. Lol I bet it can only catch up to the A9, since 2016 models couldn't beat 2015 models.
Sad really.
*grabs popcorn

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 01:10 2

10. Tyrion_Lannister (Posts: 540; Member since: 21 Oct 2016)


It won't catch up to the A9 in single core performance. Single core performance is the same between the 821 and 835. Multi core performance is 27% better though.

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 01:43

11. rd_nest (Posts: 1626; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


It's A73 + A53 as per latest 'findings'.

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 03:04

12. collin3000 (Posts: 16; Member since: 28 Apr 2015)


What will make me instantly upgrade from my Moto Turbo 2. Snapdragon 835 + Tango.

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 03:53 3

13. Mreveryphone (Posts: 967; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


There's no need to compare the A series of chips to the SD series of chips since neither drive the same platform of OS's... IPhone is basically an app launcher not needing the computing power of a Android device that does way more than just keep apps in memory... Until you put the A series chip in a android device and run benchmarks there is no need to compare and argue...

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 07:51

17. kiko007 (Posts: 4390; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


You know, you basically just said that Android is a resource hog. So much so, that the most powerful mobile chip we've ever seen STILL wouldn't make a difference.....which is pretty damn amusing.

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 12:44

18. Mreveryphone (Posts: 967; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


I didn't necessarily say a resource hog... I'm just stating that Android devices have more functionality than iphones... But take that how you see fit... As far as making a difference, we'll see about that in a few months...

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 06:03

14. thegeneral7010 (Posts: 437; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)


Nice when will it be compared to A8?

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 06:17

15. BradyCrack (Posts: 784; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


Hey! Don't be cruel! Lol

posted on 03 Jan 2017, 07:35

16. roldefol (Posts: 4362; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


At this point, does raw speed matter? I just want better battery life without compromising today's performance.

posted on 04 Jan 2017, 02:22

20. trojan_horse (Posts: 3216; Member since: 06 May 2016)


I agree there ^^. Flagship SoCs as from 2015 have been good enough alread.

All I care about now is battery life.

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