In India, Motorola replaces Nokia as the fourth largest smartphone brand
The surge in the second quarter allowed Motorola to top Nokia for the first half of the year. Smartphones shipped by Motorola for the January through June period totaled 1.33 million units as opposed to the 1.21 million for Nokia. For the last quarter, Samsung was the top smartphone manufacturer in India, shipping 4.4 million units. That compares to the 3.1 million and 1.07 million shipped by hometown firms Micromax and Karbonn, respectively. The Indian market for smartphones as a whole, grew 9% sequentially in the April through June timeframe.
Motorola's success in the region can be traced to the launch of the Motorola Moto G. The "value" priced model was the first offered by Motorola on its return to the Indian market in 2013. Motorola then launched both the Motorola Moto X and the Motorola Moto E in the country. After discounting the Moto G's price this week by 2000 rupees ($33 USD) for a limited time, the 8GB model costs 10,499 rupees ($172 USD). The 16GB model is priced at 11,999 rupees ($196 USD). Meanwhile, the Moto X is priced at 23,999 rupees ($393 USD) while the entry-level Moto E will cost you 6999 rupees ($115 USD).
Motorola Moto G
source: EconomicTimes via WMPoweruser
1. billgates (banned) (Posts: 555; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Not surprising actually.. Nokia hasn't been doing so well and moto only makes cheap phones these days. They have turned from a premium phone maker to a cheap phone maker and it seems to be working for them
6. Scott93274 (Posts: 830; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Cheap and inexpensive are two different things my friend. Motorola has been receiving industry wide praise for the level of quality of their smartphones, from a hardware, software, and aftermarket support. No, they're not flagship specs, but they perform extraordinarily well when compared to other phones in their price range. Heck, the best of the best flagships still don't have Android 4.4.4 aside from the Nexus and Google Play edition phones, The Moto X, G, & E are getting them now. So give credit when it's due. Motorola's market is growing because they're delivering on what consumers are asking for, and that's all there really is to it.
13. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3989; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
They're definitely seeing the benefits of all of their work for high quality. They shipped almost 3 times as many smartphones as the previous quarter in just one country. That's insane.
25. TheGenius (Posts: 319; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)
Another thing thats insane is .. that moto phones are exclusive to flipkart only ! And in india.. many people dont have muchh confidence on online shopping so yeah.. selling moto g locally qould have been awesome.!
14. billgates (banned) (Posts: 555; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Listen I agree they aren't cheap in the sense crappy but they still have abandoned any fan that word like to enjoy a flagship from them hence my comments. Also I don't classify 4.4.4 as a reason to get their midrange over something else that is a true flagship phone with say 4.4.2 Does that mean I think they are terrible? Not at all. Does that mean I don't understand why they are going this route? Not at all either. I fully understand their new business model but to say this isn't the reason for them being number 3 in a country that generally buys cheaper phones would be silly.
20. Scott93274 (Posts: 830; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Well, The Moto X (My current phone) is awesome, I have yet to see another phone on the market that I would exchange it for, so they did well in that regard. But if you want top of the line then maybe you should keep an eye open for the alleged Motorola Nexus device. Granted, it's nothing but rumor at this point, but it is getting closer and closer to the time of year where Google unveils the new Nexus device so maybe it's more than just rumors. A 5.9" device from Motorola (A company that is known for packing in large batteries into small form factor phones) might mean a device that can last four days or more, especially after the modifications to Android "L" which have been reported to improve battery life by 30%. All speculation on my part. I'm simply saying that there's potential to have Motorola blow your mind if you don't count them out.
41. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1343; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
And again, specs mean flagship right? Personally, I'd rather have a so called midrange phone that doesn't choke and stutter when I try to use it, and with this I have it. I spents years buying the top end phones, each time with the promise of the new hardware making it run fluidly. It took a so-called midrange device to actually pull it off.
I put my Droid Maxx up against my previous phone, a Galaxy S3. This was just after the S3's KK update to 4.4.2, while my Maxx was running 4.4. The Maxx was as is, in other words running since activation and no factory data reset. I reset the S3 and put them up against each other. The Maxx smoked the S3, which is odd considering I gave the S3 every advantage I could, and they're supposedly on the same hardware, right? So how could that be?
9. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Nokia WAS the number one brand in India. There is only one simple reason in Nokia decline in India: WP.
If nokia use android, nokia supremacy in India wouldn't be challenge by Samsung, Micromax, Carbon. WP is the sole reason that Nokia is collapsing. WP is the burning platform.
12. Scott93274 (Posts: 830; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Well, Nokia made its bad choices by gambling on latecomer Microsoft so they have no one to blame but themselves.
30. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
That's basically windows phone in a nutshell. Everyone already uses Android and iOS, so app developers focus on those two platforms. The end result is that windows phone has no mainstream apps or games, and the apps and games that are on there are terrible, so nobody buys them and it continues the cycle. And to be honest, even if they did manage to scrape together some half decent apps, I doubt people would switch to windows phone anyway. The UI isn't very good or intuitive, and it doesn't have all the extra goodies you get with android or iOS.
48. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 303; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)
Jeez, you just keep at it...? No mainstream apps or games? Is your life really so dull and empty that you have to make up imaginary "facts" for each and every article mentioning WP? Did Bill Gates screw your boyfriend or something?
26. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Then why is Nokia declining?
No need to attack users with your insults.
When you, yourself have nothing to say,..
It's cause of Wp, disliked platform.
27. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
There is a different with fanboy and paid shill....
just like you, I also love nokia, my first smartphone is nokia 3650. but when nokia use the failed platform and not as good as competitor, I moved on.
I won't categorize Scoott & DogeShibe & especially Liveitup as a fanboy. They were more like a paid shill to me. They defend all the decision of Nokia/Microsoft, even the bad one.
31. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
You forgot, Billgates and NokiaFtw, the immature kids, who attacks users instead of the subject.
37. billgates (banned) (Posts: 555; Member since: 29 May 2014)
I love that you remembered me neanderthal.. Im no paid shill and you are the worst attacker of anything wp so eat a bowl of my marbles
49. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 303; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)
Only immaturity displayed here is by you...
54. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1976; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Nokia is declining or has declined because if their ignorance and total blindness to the smartphone boom in 2010. Their laggy and sluggish Symbian couldn't compete with Android and more importantly, iOS. As I've said before, if Nokia had release their first WPs along with the rest when WPs were just being launched in late 2010, perhaps they wouldn't have been acquired by MS today. The same ignorance has led to the downfall of BlackBerry and Motorola as well, though Motorola are making a huge come back thanks to their awesome budget phones. MS must release more Lumias and release them faster, along with proper marketing, to sell more of them. WP is a great platform, it just requires that marketing push from Microsoft to succeed.
56. meanestgenius (Posts: 1093; Member since: 28 May 2014)
True, ignorance led to BlackBerry's problems, but just like Motorola, BlackBerry is making a comeback as well. This is evident in their latest ER and acquisitions, partnerships, new handset releases and production, and new areas in which BlackBerry is entering.
57. Scott93274 (Posts: 830; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
I'm sorry, but you can't make a claim like that unless they actually turn a profit, and right now, there are no sales.
2. Anshulonweb (Posts: 311; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
if xiaomi play their cards right and make the phones available for sale, i won't be surprised if they land in top 3 spot......please xiaomi don't waste this.opportunity and get over with the foolish flash sales....
5. billgates (banned) (Posts: 555; Member since: 29 May 2014)
I have to agree.. Of course that's if the rumors of sell out and it only being a few hundred phones. Also they need to nip that Chinese big brother thing too. I think they have attractive phones for the most part.
10. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
I hate the way XiaoMi sell their phone. I want my new phone when I want it, not when XiaoMi want to sell it.
3. mocir (Posts: 20; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Well Indians mostly buy budget phone so Motorola can sell better there than they usually do in other countries.
4. CyberFalcon (Posts: 156; Member since: 17 Apr 2014)
Here in India Motorola products are exclusive to Flipkart...
And flipkart alone sold 1.33 Million units.
If motorola takes out that exclusivity and with proper service centers it ll surely be the No.1 company...
7. Scott93274 (Posts: 830; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Well, lets hope for good decisions and market growth.
8. 0xFFFF (Posts: 2951; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Seems like there is no lack of evidence that WP is, in fact, a burning platform.
There is no escaping from karma.
11. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
WP IS the burning platform. Elop is very smart to make us think Symbian were the burning platform.
17. Liveitup (Posts: 1173; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Only thing burning is your common sense, its a Sunday give trolling WP a rest, that goes for the other troll as well.
24. nasznjoka (Posts: 336; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
You're the one who been in JAIL for TROLLING how come you call others trolls?
32. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Because he keeps losing and spreading BS, monsenses.
He has never won an discussion.
They all just shut him up. Liveitup, more like Liveitdown.
33. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
What trolling Liveitup.
We are providing you with actual factual honest truth,...
Yes to you its hard to accept the truth.
15. billgates (banned) (Posts: 555; Member since: 29 May 2014)
For effing sake give it a rest. You both are true trolls.. Both of you are worse than artee and that's bad. Congrats on all your pathetic jabs
16. Scott93274 (Posts: 830; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
0xFFFF does nothing but bash Google all day and night...You would think he might have an actual life outside of mudslinging... but you would be wrong.
29. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Congratulations, you couldn't argue or counter-attack or win
You have been owned
38. billgates (banned) (Posts: 555; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Farty artee who pulled your chain? How is your sweet sweet mum? Sorry I haven't been by in a while
28. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Here's a brief list of major problems Microsoft has yet to address.
Multitasking is sometimes inscrutable, in that you never know which apps will show up in the "currently running" list of apps.
Email threading often doesn't work, especially with Gmail accounts.
Lots of features, including Rooms (sort of a mobile, multimedia chat room) are Windows Phone exclusives, meaning they can only be accessed with Windows Phones--cool, but it's pretty unlikely all your friends have Windows Phones too.
Speech recognition is lousy, nowhere near as good as Google's Android voice control or even Apple's Siri.
There's no place to see notifications at all; if you get an alert on an app that you haven't pinned to your homescreen, you'd never know.
Bing Maps doesn't have public transit directions, let alone bike directions.
It's not easy to share photos to services like Twitter and Facebook; Android and iOS let you do that in one touch, but not Windows Phone.
34. meanestgenius (Posts: 1093; Member since: 28 May 2014)
I think that everyone here on PA knows I'm more of a BlackBerry fan than any other platform here, but there are a few things that you typed that are not true:
"It's not easy to share photos to services like Twitter and Facebook; Android and iOS let you do that in one touch, but not Windows Phone."
This is not true. If you want to share a photo with one touch on Windows Phone, all you have to do is tap the three dots at the bottom of the picture and you get the option to share the pic with a number of social networks you have set up, including Facebook and Twitter.
"There's no place to see notifications at all; if you get an alert on an app that you haven't pinned to your homescreen you'd never know."
Doesn't the notification center in WP8.1 take care of this? Also, you can set up which apps notify you on the the lock screen in the "settings", even if you don't have the app pinned to your home screen.
"Speech recognition is lousy, nowhere near as good as Google's Android voice control or even Apple's Siri."
Doesn't Cortana replace voice control on WP? Or, can't you use Cortana in place of voice control on WP? Isn't Cortana as good or better than Siri and Android voice/Google Now?
The rest of your points I more or less agree with you on, although Bing Maps will direct you to a number of apps like HERE transit on Lumia and other Windows Phones. You can also block most apps from running that you don't want running in the background, although there are some you may not be able to block. You will have to close them completely via the "x" that appears after a long press of the back arrow. Email threading works with Outlook on WP, but not Gmail. Gmail is a pain to use on WP.
36. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
You have a point...thanks for the info, meanestgenuis
39. meanestgenius (Posts: 1093; Member since: 28 May 2014)
Anytime, Arte. We are all here to share info in a respectful way, after all.
44. marcski07 (Posts: 357; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
bing maps is crap. google maps is the best. In bing maps, you can search only for address, not landmarks.. e.g (malls, train stations, etc.) they need to update it, bing map is more simple than google map, but they lack the important aspect of direction! wp is more simple than android, but the important or critical features are missing.... they are really genius... -.-
45. meanestgenius (Posts: 1093; Member since: 28 May 2014)
"Bing maps is crap. Google maps is the best".
So who asked for your opinion? Arte and I were discussing FACTS, not OPINION.
Anyway, HERE maps, which is on all WP can do search all of those things. Yes, WP is easier to use than Android. That's the POINT, Isn't it? Also, WP 8.1 addresses a lot of those "critical" or "important " features that are missing. Try using the OS before making statements like the ones you've just made.
46. marcski07 (Posts: 357; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
i'm just talking about bing maps. not the whole os. -.- i dunno about 8.1 yet, so i can't argue with that.
47. meanestgenius (Posts: 1093; Member since: 28 May 2014)
You mentioned "WP" and "Android". Seems like the "whole OS" to me.
51. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 303; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)
He has a point? No, you were COMPLETELY wrong on all accounts. Not a single of your points was actually valid. How's arguing with imaginary facts working for you?
55. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1976; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Don't mind him. He still uses an S60 handset from a decade ago. He's a WP fan pretending to be a fandroid.
18. rahul.niks (Posts: 53; Member since: 31 Oct 2013)
Xiaomi can easily beat every heck of oem in india, but they aren't selling their devices properly. The exclusive deal with flipkart is fine, that way it will be out of market decision for price, but the 10000 batch thing is frustrating many buyers who have to go for moto n mmx. Also they are not selling redmi note and 1s even after announcement. If these phones are avail and in stock in xiaomi shop, why they are out of stock in India. Hate this 5 second sell out thing.
40. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
that's the way xiaomi hype their phone. If they provide more phone than demand, people will wait to buy the phone when they need one. But with flash sell strategy, people feel they have to buy it when they have a chance. With this strategy XiaoMi can make sure that the next one, even if it's 50,000 batch or 100,000 batch, will sell in a minute.
22. TRANSLATION (unregistered)
Well earned position by Motorola.
35. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6369; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Great NEWS. Now MOTOROLA needs too take over here in the U.S. MARKET where they belong
43. Scott93274 (Posts: 830; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
I read your "Great NEWS" in the professor's voice from Futurama. Yeah, I want to see Motorola grow here state side.
52. gaara6775 (Posts: 277; Member since: 20 May 2014)
Moto's days are back but soon Xiaomi will surpass them. Waiting for xiaomi to surpass Sammy here. Lol
53. LikeMyself (Posts: 267; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)
And still no Motorola available in my stupid country! Why? Why??? Duck!
58. thedoctorguy (Posts: 4; Member since: 26 Oct 2013)
coz nokia is no more nokia
itzz nokia by microsoft