Apple to extend iPhone exclusivity with AT&T?
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The unanswered question is whether or not AT&T actually benefits from the deal with Apple. Most iPhone users say that their number one problem with the device is the carrier. Jagdish Rebello, iSuppli's director and principal analyst, says that the AT&T network is getting overloaded by data traffic from iPhone users using the internet and apps. But the real problem according to Rebello is that the nation's second largest carrier has not been able to turn all of this traffic into revenue. Instead, the carrier is going to throw $17 billion dollars at its network next year in order to improve the service.
The report says that while AT&T could indeed extend its exclusivity with Apple for the current iPhone model, Verizon could step in to offer a tablet device, or even a new version of the iPhone.
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2. BlackberryUser posted on 11 Sep 2009, 12:34 0 0
Can we have a few more articles that say "I think the iPhone will be on Verizon" and "I think the iPhone will not be on Verizon"? I'm ready to know the true answer and be done with the question.
15. Quemical posted on 11 Sep 2009, 17:19 0 0
I copied this from the second page of the comments, this persons makes a interesting point. dasanman69 Today 04:52:42 PM "Wait a second, is no one paying attention to those numbers? 1.4 billion people and 304.6 million? There are only some 300 odd million people in the US. So those are worldwide numbers I assume, which have nothing to do with AT&T outside of the US. So how do you come to the conclusion that Apple and AT&T would extend its contract based on numbers of people that aren't AT&T customers. Plus by 2013 there aren't gonna be many people on EVDO anyways, they'll be on Verizon's LTE network."
18. drewsky posted on 11 Sep 2009, 18:02 0 0
I think the reason they brought that up was because, there are a LOT more people using HSPA compared to EVDO, Since ATT uses HSPA. Sticking with ATT could benefit Apple Internationally.
21. Vlondril posted on 11 Sep 2009, 18:40 0 0
exactly....and as an att rep I can tell you this much....apple definatly wants to have an international powerhouse for their phone.
25. dasanman69 posted on 11 Sep 2009, 19:34 0 0
ATT doesnt have HSPA yet. And will be one year behind Verizon in rolling out a 4G network. It's Verizon's plan to open 30 markets with LTE in 2010 and by the end of 2013 have its entire footprint up and running. So duh of course the number of people using EVDO will drop considerably in 2013 that's because they all moved over to the new network. Plus LTE is far superior to HSPA
29. JeffdaBeat posted on 11 Sep 2009, 22:07 0 0
...AT&T does have HSPA...that's the name of their 3G network. There are different speeds that can be achieved with the HSPA network. Currently, AT&T offers it around 3MBs. They are deploying it at 7.2 MBs in selected markets. T-Mobile will be deploying it at an even higher speed...But yeah...it's all HSPA. Thing is though...LTE is the natural successor to GSM, not CDMA. Any phone that Verizon makes for LTE will have to be able to fall back on CDMA until there is a nationwide LTE network (kind of like before analog was switched off). Those phones are going to have to have two radios until that network is built up. The question is, does Apple want to produce two different variations of the phone? Don't know. That is 85 million customers to tap into. Personally, I am not convinced that Apple is making a phone for Verizon. What was the first thing that both Verizon and AT&T did when Sprint launched the Pre? They told their customers that they'd have the phone early 20099...just in case their customers were thinking about switching. Verizon also was pushing the BlackBerry Storm months before it was out...if Verizon had the iPhone deal...they would be letting everyone know about it so that everyone would be making the switch...But hey, we shall see...
34. dasanman69 posted on 12 Sep 2009, 18:22 0 0
Speaking of the BB Storm. It has both CDMA and Quad band GSM built into it. So its not that hard to build a phone that would work on both networks. And why wouldn't they build two separate phones? All the other phone makers do. You get get a BB Curve for every single carrier, RIM even built one for Sprint with a two way radio. It's not that hard.
3. Trobes05 posted on 11 Sep 2009, 12:50 0 0
I could care less. The iPhone is outdated compared to a lot of other phones. It is just the "hip" phone to have.
4. livin4acti0n posted on 11 Sep 2009, 13:06 0 0
The Iphone isnt like wat it used to be. Its kinda played out now. Google Android phones >>>>>
5. The Doc posted on 11 Sep 2009, 13:30 0 0
Hey E.N., this is why loyal users of the website get so frustrated... WE DESERVE A MORE VALID AND NECESSARY UPDATE. Not all iPhone news is relevant news. And it's getting rather old.
20. E.N. posted on 11 Sep 2009, 18:13 0 0
Why is this article the most popular article right now?
6. hmcougar09 posted on 11 Sep 2009, 13:56 0 0
This is so STUPID! If they get to keep the iPhone, then Verizon better get to keep the Storm 2 to themselves as well! Ugh, this makes me angry! :[
22. Mateo8326 posted on 11 Sep 2009, 18:48 0 0
yeah that sucks b/c ATT should be getting the storm 2 also
7. VZWfangirl posted on 11 Sep 2009, 14:04 0 0
I could care less if the iPhone comes to Verizon. Who wants something that looks the exact same after every upgrade. Furthermore who wants a phone where if they accidentally lose it or break it, you have to buy a new one at full retail. iPhone is a joke now. They would have to do something really big for me to want one. None of this, oh we added video capturing, oh now there is copy and paste. Seriously get with the times. It was cool when it came out but now its just late.
9. BrokenImaege posted on 11 Sep 2009, 14:31 0 0
Look, here is the answer to everyones question. Per our CEO, Verizon Wireless will not take an IPhone that is not 4G capable. Plain and simple. Apple hasn't even begun to look at this technology. Also, with the exclusive contract that AT&T has, Verizon won't get one till at least 2011. Yes, we are getting an I-Pad from Apple and that should be coming in 30-45 days......
11. Kiltlifter posted on 11 Sep 2009, 16:12 0 0
Do you mean an announcementabout the iPad (iTablet) coming in 30-45 days? Or do you mean that it will be available to end users in 30-45 days? Becuase if it is the latter, I would be massively impressed that more informcation hasn't leaked or FCC documentation or something.
16. BrokenImaege posted on 11 Sep 2009, 17:43 0 0
It's hidden but it has been seen by upper management. We have upper management informing us about getting ready to sell it. We expect it right before holidays
46. VZWProductTestr posted on 15 Sep 2009, 18:45 0 0
You sir are blowing smoke. Your information is completely unfounded
12. WKlingbeil posted on 11 Sep 2009, 16:20 0 0
The iPad... How ridiculous, tablet pc's are a complete waste of time. If I'm going to carry around a computer, it's going to be a mini netbook, not a pc that's the same size whose risk of damaging the screen is 500% more likely. It's completely silly of VZW to waste time and money on a tablet pc. The people that will be interested in it will have no understanding of $60/month internet access, and will just want one so they can post it on their twitter pages.
17. BrokenImaege posted on 11 Sep 2009, 17:44 0 0
Realize most people are getting the 39.99 plan and wifi to have it
13. WKlingbeil posted on 11 Sep 2009, 16:33 0 0
Oh, THIS JUST IN: There is a possibility that maybe there's a chance that a phone that cleans your house could be available through Verizon. This is all just suspicion and rumor, however, it is a 50/50 possibility that it may or may not happen. John Smith, an industry analyst for the company Cell Rumors, stated, "The iCleanPhone could be in production with one of many companies, and has been spotted by many infiltrating nomes we've dispatched to find information. It came back unconclusive, but we're led to believe that the iCleanPhone will be a gamebreaker." On the other hand, Dan Hess, CEO of Sprint was quoted as saying, "The idea of a phone that cleans is absurd, we might have been offered it, but if we were, we turned it down because it may or may not have sold very well." Our studies were inconclusive as well, but needless to say, if this phone does come out, people may or may not be happy.
38. BlackberryUser posted on 13 Sep 2009, 09:51 0 0
I don't think anybody could have said it better.
14. dasanman69 posted on 11 Sep 2009, 16:52 0 0
Wait a second, is no one paying attention to those numbers? 1.4 billion people and 304.6 million? There are only some 300 odd million people in the US. So those are worldwide numbers I assume, which have nothing to do with AT&T outside of the US. So how do you come to the conclusion that Apple and AT&T would extend its contract based on numbers of people that aren't AT&T customers. Plus by 2013 there aren't gonna be many people on EVDO anyways, they'll be on Verizon's LTE network.
19. E.N. posted on 11 Sep 2009, 18:12 0 0
Well I guess it means that there will be more people using HSPA technology than EVDO. So basically there will be more business with HSPA in the future so getting the iphone in the U.S. with Verizon, which probably (I'm guessing) won't make up that large of a percentage of the 300 million. So getting the iphone on Verizon isn't really all that crucial to Apple at the moment and in the near future.
27. dasanman69 posted on 11 Sep 2009, 19:38 0 0
BTW LTE is superior to HSPA. So again the people on AT&T will have slower speeds than Verizon
31. DOGIEFRESH posted on 12 Sep 2009, 00:39 0 0
Hey dude do you Know ATT also will have LTE......???? and they will have an advantage over VZW cuz LTE is backward compatible with HSPA and GSM, VZW should sell phones like NEXTEL with different signals and no integration.
35. dasanman69 posted on 12 Sep 2009, 18:32 0 0
DUH!!! Yes I do, and AT&T will be at least one year behind Verizon, which in the cellular world is a long time.If 55% of iPhone owners hate AT&T now, lets see what percentage its gonna be during that year. Verizon has close to 90 million subscribers without a flagship phone to speak of, they got those customers by having the best network. So I'm sure they have a really good plan to keep them happy and continue to grow.
32. Techman101 posted on 12 Sep 2009, 10:22 0 0
I hope at&t still is going to make the iPhone because I am thinking of getting one the 3GS. I hope Alltel or Verizon will carry the phone if At&t quits carying that phone. I love the Iphone.
39. BlackberryUser posted on 13 Sep 2009, 09:53 0 0
Nobody plans to quit carrying the phone, it will probably just expand. Maybe to TMobile first, then to VZW and Sprint.
33. tflex posted on 12 Sep 2009, 14:06 0 0
I think it so so petty how someone can single out a phone just because it isnt offered on their network...So many people hate the iphone simply because of two reasons....1.) its a high end phone that is constantly talked about..2) Its only available through att...Why cant SOME not all but SOME people admit that its a damn good phone...I know a good phone when i see one...For example the Palm Pre is a good phone and i can accept that even though it isnt on my chosen network...when it comes to a phone, its all a matter of the consumers wants and needs for a device...some people may like the pre for its multi tasking and some may lean to the iphone because of the 65,000 apps for it...its all a matter of opinion...Verizon people are especially good at bashing phones because they arent available to them...They do the greatest amount of complaining even though they claim their carrier is far superior to the rest...i constantly always hear " WHY CANT WE HAVE THIS, WHY CANT WE HAVE THAT, WHY DOES ATT GET THE STORM 2, THIS ISNT FAIR, BLACKBEERY STORM FTW, IPHONE SUCKS, TMOBILE WHO ???ALL HAIL VERIZON WIRELESS,....If you ( the verizon customer) are not happy with anything and think that everything is unfair, then I think its time to switch carriers...After all u dont see anyone else ranting like that...
36. dasanman69 posted on 12 Sep 2009, 18:48 0 0
See I'm a Verizon customer, have been one for years and will continue being one. Why do I stay with them? Because the first thing anyone buys a phone for is to make and receive calls. With Verizon those are made and received at an almost 100% success rate, plus MMS and SMS msgs sent and received, and VMs received immediately. I'm just a lil tired of seeing all these great phones coming out for another carrier other than Verizon.And I don't think its unfair because I laugh whenever I'm speaking to someone with an iPhone and our call drops, which is about 90% of the time, when they call back I answer with laughter as soon as I hear them say "sorry, the call got dropped" BTW AT&T will be getting the storm2 at the same time Verizon releases it.
43. tflex posted on 13 Sep 2009, 16:47 0 0
What ur saying is ridiculous...I have an iphone and havent had a dropped call yet...u like many other people, always try and use that when u dont even have att...in my area i get perfect service and elsewhere....if att was so crappy as verizon fanboys claim, i wouldnt be on their network...the only time ive noticed verizon better than att is in some areas of the boonies...other than that att is right up with verizon...oh and u know what?? Im willing to sacrifice one bar of service to verizon in the boonies to have a good phone...verizons lineup is flat out terrible....all these envys and chocolates...who the hell cares about those rehash phones...
44. vzw fanman posted on 14 Sep 2009, 12:31 0 0
the storm is an awesome device!!!! i dont know what your smoking bro but the envys are awesome phones. i just hate people who have gayt&t because when i text them i never know if they actually got the text message or not. i just think it's funny no matter what website you go on or poll, people are always more subject to support verizon than any other carrier. and i just hate the iphone because i hate all apple pruducts.
37. DOGIEFRESH posted on 12 Sep 2009, 19:42 0 0
Why ATT is always getting the good phones....??? simple they have the world standart HSPA (GSM based), CDMA is very limited and can't compete, many fanboys still think on their minds EVDO is a big player but cellphones manufactures speak different, VZW is gonna become a big contender when they switch on LTE meanwhile they got to settle with whatever cell makers wanna do, also fanboys don't stop talking bullcrap about how good is their network and how well VZ would handle an iphone, it will be the sAme exact stuff guys ATT network is hammered cuz millions of the iphones the same exact thing VZW have if they get the iphone or probably worst cuz is CDMA can't handle much data trafic as HSPA does so fanboyz stop talking trash and make a research is free on wikepedia...!!!
40. Vlondril posted on 13 Sep 2009, 10:50 0 0
no offence doggiefresh.....but I think a dictionary, thesaurus, and and english writting lesson or two might do you some good....It was a little difficult trying to decipher what you wrote.
41. Vlondril posted on 13 Sep 2009, 11:13 0 0
of course the same could be said about my typeos...lol
45. DOGIEFRESH posted on 14 Sep 2009, 14:20 0 0
That won't happen if you have any idea what is a cellphone technology, this web page is to much for you dude try confederatephones.com you might learn some....!!!!!
42. vmatikov posted on 13 Sep 2009, 15:22 0 0
Lol what difference does it make to ANYONE what carrier the iPhone is on.. I mean I'm gonna get the next iPhone when it's inevitably released next year (I'll probly camp out too..), and if I have to switch carriers, so be it