Analyst says Cupertino is more excited about iPhone 6 with LTE, the next iPhone to be a minor upgrade
Now he is back again with a monotone, claiming he polled his sources at Cupertino, and they revealed that Apple is actually pumped up about not the next iPhone, which is expected to be a minor update, but iPhone 6 (or whatever it ends up called).
The fifth generation's upgrades will probably then be the dual-core A5 chipset, 8MP camera, maybe aluminum back, and possibly NFC and programmable SIM, thrown in for a good measure, if Mr Moritz's sources hold water about the intermittent upgrade.
The sixth generation should actually be the monster with the bigger 4" display and 4G LTE connectivity, according to The Street's analyst. What timeframe will that iPhone 6 appear in, is anybody's guess now.
If the rumors about iPhone 5 in September are true, it seems that Apple will be pushing out different iPhone versions every six months or so this year, maybe to keep up with one little green robot's adventures, so the LTE model might land this time next year, when AT&T will have its own LTE network fully rolled-out. Verizon's CEO Dan Meade also says that its LTE network is definitely in Apple's plans, but didn't specify if this support will appear in the next iPhone, or the one after that.
Any thoughts on these ruminations?
1. Monique27 (unregistered)
yeah, I'm more excited about the iP6 especially if the iP5 doesn't have LTE....and also due to the fact that I'm still in contract for my iP4....I'm hoping that iOS5 will be a significant uprgrade because iOS is getting kinda stale. In any case, Apple will still sell a bunch of new iPhones this fall
2. nataliesophia (unregistered)
I'm definitely okay with this...gives me more time to spend with my beloved blackberry before I switch over :3 I would appreciate that bigger screen so I will wait!
3. iPhone4 User (unregistered)
I am a new iPhone4 user.
I had always thought that the next iPhone would be more a "gs" model versus an iteration.
It sure would be nice if the i5 is going to have LTE, for Apple's sake. It looks like a lot of sales could be lost on Apple's part if they do not release LTE this year.
With that being said, my 2 year deal on my i4 ... expires right around when the i6 will be released. Maybe that is what Apple is banking on???
4. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
What do you bet that when the iPhone 5 comes out it will get reviews gushing about its awesomeness, when the Droid 2, a minor update to the original Droid that still doubled its processing power, improved its keyboard, updated its software, and greatly increased its internal memory, as well as being able to run Gingerbread, was poo pooed as "too much of the same?"
19. Kjayhawk (Posts: 292; Member since: 07 Oct 2010)
Kind of hard to respond to that... but I will try. Yes the iPhone is always over reviewed.
BUT!!!! Remember PA's review of the iPhone 3gs? At the end of the review he kind of toppled with it and said "Nothing new here, we can't help but think the iPhone is just another MOTORZR" They gave it like a 8.5... The same as the actually under review G2X? I think...
So I think we can guarantee the iPhone 5 to get a respectable and deserved 8.5. Unless major revisions are done on the OS, but if that were to happen older phones like the iPhone 3gs, might not be able to run it. Then fragmentation might be higher than on Android.
Plus many iPhone users like the design and everything and all they want is an upgraded OS...
21. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yes, but there wasn't much new about the iPhone 4 either other than the expected changes. We'll have to see. If Apple pulls out some awesome sauce for iOS 5, then yes, it'll deserve some points for that.
5. snowgator (Posts: 3394; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
iP5 will sell, and I am betting Sniggly will be correct on the reviews, although you do sound a little grumpy on the subject, Sniggly. :-D But my coworker who has the iP4 from AT&T, and can upgrade in December due to buying it off contract, will get an earfull from me on the wisedom on not buying the hype, and waiting for the next Heaven sent offering from Apple. (Only slight sarcasm there, Apple fans.)
6. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Lol, if she's stuck on Apple and won't budge off of it, yes, at least steer her toward the 6. I'm baffled that people even paid for the Verizon 4.
I haven't been getting much sleep lately, and certain friggin' idiots who treat Apple as the greatest thing ever and any competitor as a poo sandwich have been irritating me. Sorry for the morning grumpiness. :(
7. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
First off, I own an iPhone 4 and love it. (granted, I came from a camera-less flip phone)
Picture a bar graph, "Tech Upgrades vs Time" for iPhone. Looks pretty linear, right?
Now picture the same graph for Android devices. That one appears exponential.
At some point, the "wait for the trend to become standard" approach for Apple will catch up to them.
8. devonblue4u (Posts: 57; Member since: 12 Apr 2011)
This is like being in a fight and asking for a time out... your opponent laughs and re-double his effort to beat the crap out of you.
9. samirsshah (Posts: 61; Member since: 10 Mar 2011)
To generate exitement, iPhone 5 should have OmniVision 12 MP sensor. Also it should have local (does not require Internet) photo editing software (I know A5 is upto it) that furthur adds to the exitement. And as I said before the 'photography' iron is hot and getting hotter by the day.
Even with all this, as said in the article, Apple will buy only six months. So iPhone 6 should come in April. The tablet competition is in so much disarray that Apple may be able to get away with iPad 3 coming in June 2012 or may be evem September 2012. Double introductions are always bad. Again, this is my conjecture, iPad 3 introduction should totally be based on competitive landscape.
10. TheFunnyMan (Posts: 77; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
Why would Apple wait until next year and generation after next to launch an LTE iPhone. Seems like a good way to set yourself back in the tech race
12. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Because LTE is not widespread yet. Apple thinks that it's still premature to include it in the ip5. There's been several articles implying that LTE, for now, is merely a marketing scheme, since it's not yet available in a lot of areas. Unlike the others, Apple will not include a feature just because they can, and so they can look impressive. It has to make sense and should actually work.
14. Kjayhawk (Posts: 292; Member since: 07 Oct 2010)
LTE by the end of the year will cover almost a majority of the population and by 2012 it will cover 2/3's.
You should also note that LTE is in high demand. Hence the fact that the HTC Thunderbolt actually outsold the iPhone for awhile this month. Phonearena should have the Article up soon.
Apple includes plenty of things that are not wide spread its called innovation.
15. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
So...even though LTE is available for millions of potential buyers across the country, at least with Verizon, and I DO mean MILLIONS, and even though ATT is building their LTE network as we speak, it wouldn't work or make sense for Apple to include the LTE radio that its competitors have already started developing and including?
Well, considering Apple's history of antenna quality (ranging from bad to death grip) I can actually agree with you. Leave LTE to the Android big boys, you can stay in the 3G playpen for now.
I mean, can't the ATT version at least include HSPA+ capability?
22. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Why are you such a pathetic hater? Apple waits for a technology to work good before they add it. It you don't like it you can buy an LTE capable phone such as the Thunderbolt. However look at all the issues that phone has. Terrible battery life, connectivity issues, among other bugs. I used the Thunderbolt for a week myself and my data would regularly cut off to where I didn't receive emails and notifications.
26. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Okay, but if Apple was truly as superior as you INSINUATE IN EVERY POST YOU MAKE EVER, then they should be able to make a radio that doesn't destroy battery life or have connectivity issues.
But I'll let you have this argument because, guess what? You just yourself admitted that Apple is not bothering to innovate in a technology field that would clearly ramp up their popularity, and is instead WAITING FOR OTHER COMPANIES TO WORK OUT ALL THE BUGS AND MAKE THE TECHNOLOGY WORK WELL AND WORK CONSISTENTLY BEFORE THEY EVEN BOTHER INVESTING IN IT THEMSELVES.
Either way you're going to lose this one, Taco. There is simply no way to make Apple look good over this issue.
25. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4681; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Wow 530gemini has some spare time? You done with the thumbs down spree you had on the Apple sues Samsung over the Galaxy line, ITC siding up with Nokia and HTC against Apple post? I saw what you did! In an hour you gave me 40 thumbs down. I find it so cool that you have time still to inject your coolness to these unlucky people. You are a truly a great person. Anyone who reads this check out the Apple sues Samsung over the Galaxy line, ITC siding up with Nokia and HTC against Apple & anybody who has a rectangular, rounded edge phone with nice shiny icons on it to court! This guy is a real winner! LOL
27. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
According to the latest articles, Apple said that the LTE chips were too big and would force design changes. They refuse to make the design changes so they are waiting for the chipset to shrink.
Being told how beautiful the phone is, is more important than adding functionality. That says a lot.
by the time christmas rolls around VZW will have the bulk of their network covered in LTE. so its widespread enough.
11. janethhornygurl (unregistered)
I just have one question even if the iphone 6 does have Lte will it work on verizons Lte or atts Lte?
13. Kjayhawk (Posts: 292; Member since: 07 Oct 2010)
OMG that guy was awful I was seriously considering suicide. This guy and the PA guy who does the reviews are equally as boring.
Called it iP6 is going to be baller!!
16. snowgator (Posts: 3394; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Off subject a little:
Anyone who is concerned (Apple fans) that iPhone cannot keep up with Google, or thinks (Droid fans) that Apple is about to be dusted by Google and they cannot keep up anymore, the Wall Street Journal has a piece today that Apple has a 60 BILLION dollar cash stockpile. That is not dividends (which this article is about), not tied up in investments, not leaned against for future credit advances, not wrapped up in tech or R&D, just cash laying around collecting dust. Think we will be seeing Apple products for a very long time, regardless how far ahead other Operating Systems or device makers get.
I am not a future iPhone owner, but I like the iPhone and other products for what they are. But this kind of cash surplus is near unheard of. 60 Billion? Beyond my meager comprehension ...
20. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Also, we may have gotten a glimpse into Apple's future plans; CNN just posted a story a little bit ago about the fact that iOS 4.0 users and above are having their locations and travels recorded WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT by Apple, and there is no way to disable the software, as it runs off of tower triangulation. It also transfers from iPhone to iPhone. So Apple is recording peoples' movements so as to better capture, detain, and insert the new mind controlling iChips for which iOS users have already been conditioned, in Jobs's bid to raise a zombie army and become dictator of the world.
Only part of this post was sarcasm.
23. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
If you're worried about your data being out why would you use Android. Google is notorious for taking they're customers information and using it for all sorts of purposes without people's consent. You're such a worthless hypocrite.
24. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Bullcrap, Google does not take peoples' location data without their consent. If you turn location services off, they don't collect anything. I use Android because it's not only open in its software, but in its policies and attitude toward customers. Apple never volunteered that it's collecting this information. Apple, in fact, is terrible at communicating a single damn thing to its customers. Whether it's asking for feedback on its devices or responding properly to criticisms for its shortcomings, Apple says not a word and pretends that it never does anything wrong.
Google makes data collection optional, and doesn't collect anything too scary. It shares information with advertisers because that's how it makes money. However, we have no clue what Apple is collecting its information for, especially since they've been collecting it for months and made the information transferrable to new devices with no hint at any software that actually uses it. That scares me more than Google trying to present me with more personalized ads which I'm more likely to click on. If the ads are there anyway, they might as well have a higher chance of being useful to me.
17. celljrod (Posts: 82; Member since: 07 Apr 2011)
The question is, and I'm not an Apple hater, how long will that last once Steve Jobs is truly gone? As we all know, the last time he left the company as a whole almost went down the toilet.
18. Shark (unregistered)
If the IP5 is NOT LTE, the cell phone purists will be falling out of love with Apple dearly, as will many of those that deem themselves even somewhat tech savvy. Unfortunately, the millions and millions of Apple fanatics and IPhone subscribers wont care. They'll just continue to buy the product and support Apple, thus continuing the cycle.
I'm not one of those people that is down on Apple becuz theyre playing with house money while still behind in the game. Theyre a shrewd company that certainly knows how to conduct business and illicit consumer support. But, in order for them to really do something revolutionary and cutting edge ALL THE TIME, the masses have to cry foul and not support Apple's lazy attempt to flood the market with an inferior product.
Until millions revolt and dont buy their products simply becuz theyre Apple, that company will continue to push marginal product, knowing that it will sell becuz of its name alone.