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Analyst flip-flops about a Retina display in the iPad mini 2

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Analyst flip-flops about a Retina display in the iPad mini 2
Many have been expecting that the iPad mini 2 will be launching later this year with a Retina display, but an analyst from DisplaySearch doesn't think that's going to happen. Instead, NPD DisplaySearch analyst Richard Shim thinks that Apple will take more of the iPhone route with the iPad mini releases.

Shim thinks that the iPad mini 2, which will come this fall, will feature boosted internals and a slimmer design (much like an 'S' iPhone model), and will be followed by a 3rd generation iPad mini that will come in "early 2014" and that's the model that will feature a Retina display.

Of course, we should keep in mind that just last month, Shim was saying that LG was ramping up production of Retina displays for the iPad mini. So, he may not be the most reliable source. While we could believe a shorter release cycle is on the way for the iPhone, it seems unlikely that Apple would be moving to such a short release cycle for the iPad mini. 

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posted on 19 Jun 2013, 14:24

1. _Bone_ (Posts: 2121; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Does anyone happen to know how to uninstall McAfee Antivirus?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 14:37 1

2. ebubekir26 (Posts: 311; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


if it's built in, you have to root your device first

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 15:39

7. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Are you talking about your phone or PC?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:05 1

11. kozza3 (Posts: 574; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


i hate that stuff

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:22

36. applesauce (banned) (Posts: 165; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


Trying to get more hits on that goofy video circulating around?

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 02:58

60. _Bone_ (Posts: 2121; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Finally someone got it,

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 14:51 7

3. ghaniosman (Posts: 64; Member since: 06 Jun 2013)


Will apple ever stop being self obsessed with their three year old retina display?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 15:29 6

4. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Apple has the best display in mobile tech why would they stop?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 15:38 9

5. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


R u kidding?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:00 3

8. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Not at all, why would I be kidding.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:08 8

12. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


You said Apple has the best display. And you know what? their display are usually made by LG or Sharp. Credit should be given to LG or Sharp, not to the Apple.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:15 4

13. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Ok I'll give you that, but the display is synonymous with apple.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:26 1

15. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


You can say that.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:30 2

16. greathero1 (Posts: 461; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)


True that they are assembled by LG and Sharp but the design was done by Apple. The specs, technology to use, and all of that good stuff was engineered by Apple. They outsourced their design to be assembled by somebody else because it's more cost effective. So while LG and Sharp should be credited for assembling the displays, Apple deserves the credit since they originally designed and engineered the display.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:38 4

17. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That's true. People get so caught up in specs, they forger about craftsmanship. Apple 1137/640 blows away some of these 720 and 1080 displays. Why? Engineering...

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:42 1

18. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


It may blows away some of the displays but not all of the displays.
HTC One X had the best display (last year). It was praised by almost every website.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:44 1

19. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


I think Software tweaks and optimization matters.
Sony has the best software software customization, Bravia engine is a really cool stuff though but it still lacks.

Same thing goes with their cameras, Sony and IPhone uses the same cameras but I still give credits to Apple for their better customization.
Last year's i5 beats all the last year flagships in camera.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:07 2

22. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I agree with you on software tweaks, and optimization. It does make a difference in the end.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:09 3

23. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3967; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


I don't know man, the S-LCD3 on the One and DNA are pretty amazing, and also calibrated to perfection (or pretty damn close).

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:20 1

26. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Agreed with you. I am waiting for Sony Triluminous display, I think it would be surprising.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:21 1

27. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


True and you can't leave out the s4.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:32 2

30. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3967; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Yeah, but AMOLED isn't good for out door use, because they don't get bright enough. Also you need to dig into the settings just to get accurate colors.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:36 1

32. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Yeah this is the reason I prefer LCD.
iPhones and HTC have the best displays so far.
LG is picking up the pace too.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:38

33. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


True my note is kinda dim out side, auto brightness helps some though.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 01:22

59. iushnt (Posts: 617; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


S4 is much brighter and less reflective than note2

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 20:37 1

45. Jason2k13 (Posts: 641; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


since when having 'accurate' colours means the perfect screen? Isnt deep black and power saver a positive to?

Did you know DisplayMate rated the S4 amoled screen as one of the best screen out there, with having more accurate colours than the HTC ONE or Sony Z?

Amoled is still good for outdoors, I mean you can still read texts easily if you set it to auto brightness or set the brightness higher or maybe my eyes is just too good?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 20:57

47. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3967; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Since ever. Display quality has always been judged on how accurate colors are, professionally at least. You can say you like over saturated colors or warmer/colder whites, but that doesn't mean the professionals will agree with you in their reviews. The infinite black on AMOLED is great, but has little weight to it when the colors on AMOLED are completely blown out of proportion in the eyes of a professional.

Yes, I know the screen of the GS4 is great, ever since they added the different display options in which you can make the display a lot more accurate while still maintaining deep blacks; that's what I meant when I said you had to dig through the settings to get accurate colors.

AMOLED is NOT great for outdoors at all. I've had a GS2 and GS3, the outdoor visibility is terrible even with brightness all the way up. You can still read text, but not nearly as well as you can on an LCD display.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 21:15

50. Jason2k13 (Posts: 641; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


Isn't having the option of changing from saturated to accurate colours is better than having 1 option? Your not really digging deep when even a 10 year old can find the settings for it.

Once again, amoled from the S4 has since improved from the GS2 and GS3, maybe you need to try an S4 outside.

I live in Australia which is very sunny most of the time, and sure the screen may not be as good as some LCD but calling it terrible or bad is just nonsense.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 21:43

51. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3967; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


It is better to have more options, but it shouldn't be wrong in the first place. Yes, a margin of the market like AMOLED's over saturated colors, but the mass majority of the market really doesn't care. And when most consumers don't care, you always go for what the experts will review to be the best, which is accurate colors. Also, there are people like me which AMOLED's colors makes my eyes hurt, and if I look at my phone for longer than about 15 minutes with my brightness higher than about 50% I get a headache.

I have tried a GS4 outside, and the outdoor visibility is really bad. I didn't notice much of a difference between it and my GS3 at full brightness outside.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 22:03 1

54. Jason2k13 (Posts: 641; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


most HD movies you see these days offer dynamic and saturated colours, you dont like watching those to?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 22:36

55. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3967; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


I rarely watch movies, the last one I watched was Star Trek Into Darkness 3D a few weeks ago, I had to get out of the theater about half way through because of my headache.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:24

37. applesauce (banned) (Posts: 165; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


@dumbjediiiiiiii you mean the display that Sharp and LG make for them? apple doesn't make anything themselves, except perhaps the next-gen mac pros, though I'm not sure which factory in the US those are supposed to be made in, so might be subcontracted out anyway.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 21:56 2

53. greathero1 (Posts: 461; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)


So now we are insulting one another? Lol! Who cares what Apple actually makes. If they did the R&D, design, tested the product to make sure it met their standards, who cares if they took bids from other companies to assemble their products? Plain silly!

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 04:06 1

62. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That's why I didn't bother replying to him. +1 hero1

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:36

40. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


Honestly dark, haha I would have given you a red thumb for that comment..seems like ever since the introduction of ios7 you Kinnda been back on apple's ...you know... ()()/////D ... But you still cool bro !! :)

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 20:19

42. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


How so? I just think its overall the best display. Not bring a fanboy, cuz I have my complaints, and you know I do. Specs aside, just looking at the pure beauty and clarity of the display...name one that's actually better. Several are just as good, but name one that's hands down better. Take screen size and specs out of the equation, just look at beauty.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 23:41 1

56. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


It's called the HTC one duh!!!!! Slcd3 craps on retina .... Yeah I know they are both LCD panels, but I find the ONE to be more sharp, crisp, more natural in color.. I'd give viewing angles and brightness to iPhone though .

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 23:48

57. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


Ok bro...my gf is asleep and I took her phone (ip5) and have my ONE right with me .. I've looked at these screens for like 15 mins and yeah i think the ONE is more of the beauty. Again, display all alone .. but yeah retina is amazing though so it's whatever this is too subjective bro. Anyways, do you root dark?

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 04:05 1

61. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Never rooted, and yes the HTC One would be the one phone, that could have a better display.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 09:20

64. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


You should try HTC One. It has the best screen till now (may be next iPhone has better display, may be). Its design has been praised by every single reviewer. Beats audio, metallic body and Blinkfeed.
Though its camera isn't inspiring and more like a downgrade.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 13:05 1

67. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


Really? Yes ultrapixel is a cheesy name, but I find the camera to be at par with an 8 mp camera and with wayy better low light . Images can be noisy at times but I can look past that . I think HTC is stepping in the right direction in the camera department.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 14:57

68. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


I haven't seen HTC by me eyes but I am just saying that from reviews. You are the first to say that Ultrapixels are good.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 09:21

65. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Best Displays:
1. HTC ONE
2. iPhone
3. Tie between S4 and Xperia Z (S4 has better viewing angles but produces over saturated colors, Xperia Z produces balanced color but viewing angles are worst)
One is perfect.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 20:58 2

48. masterpogi6 (Posts: 11; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Apple is always a monster in the world of mobile phones. I love apple :D. Samsung and HTC always copy the design and concept of Apple that is why those two company $@(k$! What a loser :D lol LOL LOL :D

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 09:17

63. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


HTC is not a copycat. Don't be a fanboy.
Its the Samsung who keeps copying LG and calling it "innovation".

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:00

9. greathero1 (Posts: 461; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)


It's still one of the best displays in the game so why stop? Plus it's just the name that they call their displays. No different than Sammy saying Amoled or HTC saying Super LCD IMO.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:27

38. applesauce (banned) (Posts: 165; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


Um, yeah, no, not at all. AMOLED is a screen technology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED), short for active-matrix organic light-emitting diode. LCD and its iterations like Super LCD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_LCD) are liquid-crystal displays with LED backlighting, which is what the "Retina" display is.

So, you're wrong, and your argument is invalid.

Research before posting :D

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 21:50 1

52. greathero1 (Posts: 461; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)


So with both of them adding the words Super and Plus to the beginning isn't just a marketing ploy? I know and understand what each are. Samsung and HTC both add to the marketing by using great adjectives to project their screens as something great just like the adjective Retina. They just add the adjective in front of and behind the said screen technology. So I think my argument is quite valid. All of the said manufacturers definitely give their screens Super this, Retina this, and Plus this to the name of their devices. Sad is that you are so busy trying to make one company look bad that you couldn't scratch below the surface of your silly rant to see the bigger picture. All of these companies offer some kind of grandiose name to their screen. Marketing no?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 15:39

6. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Now this is revolutionary.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:02

10. greathero1 (Posts: 461; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)


Hopefully it's included because it's definitely a deal breaker for me. I've been spoiled with the Retina display on the 3rd generation model and I'm not downgrading on the screen. Will probably just wait until early 2014 I guess.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:16 1

14. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


DaveCann if you're logged on, tell me your iOS 7 thoughts.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 16:46

20. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Which devices are you using? Just asking.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:05

21. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


iPhone 5, and gnote 2. Tablet is an iPad 3. How bout you?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:18

25. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


I was using HTC. Sold it due to weak battery life. Planning to get either i4 or S2. (Suffering from some financial crisis, unable to get any high-end device).

I think I should wait for iPhone Light, HTC One Mini and Huawei Ascend P6.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:23

28. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


i4 and s2 are high end, just not new high end. You actually can't go wrong with either.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:29

29. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


I mean I can't get i5 or HTC One (my two favorite phones).
But I am still happy to get one of these (i4 and S2)

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:35 1

31. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I'm waiting for the next iPhone and note before I decide. My i5 took a very nasty fall, which left it with a cracked screen, so it's definitely getting replaced.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:42 1

34. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Next iPhone is most awaited iPhone to me. All of the androids are now with 1080p resolutions and atleast 13mp cameras and are mostly with 5" inches of screen. Now lets see how Apple will convince us to to ditch those Android phones for iPhone.
I smell something revolutionary this time.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 18:40

41. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


That's the $hit I forgot to flush..sorry bro

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 20:21 1

44. darkkjedii (Posts: 10822; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Lmao that's a good one, but I agree with Potato...apples got an ace up their sleeve.

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