iPhone 7 reported to have "cutting edge" wireless charging technology
1. BLSEOTB (Posts: 332; Member since: 24 Mar 2015)
All the iSheeps are going to go crazy for what they will call "new revolutionary technology" that has been in Android phones for years.
2. lyndon420 (Posts: 4370; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
The article is referring to distance charging...something Samsung has been working on for probably 5 years now. It currently isn't in any Android phone.
64. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Really? Magnetic particles in a controlled environment don't cause cancer. I know you were joking, but I am compensating for all the other idiots who will take you seriously.
63. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Yes and its also slower than using a standard charging cable. Yeah that really cutting edge.
Thank you Qualcomm and Samsung for fast charging and fast wireless charging.
73. Unordinary (Posts: 1692; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
Apple has been working on this for a while too. I believe they patented a specific method 5+ years ago.
76. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Yes they did. And WiPower is the company that pioneered the tech and Qualcomm bought it 5 years ago and Android phones have already supported the tech. It simply required a special back cover.
This is why Samsung spoke more highly of their own technology because it is built into the phone and doesnt require the cases.
The S6 family I believe doesnt support this because it requires Qualcomm chips and the S6 family uses only Exynos.
The S7 will likely support the WiPower Qualcomm option because it will be using a 8xx chipset.
So it will still be before the iPhone 7. BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
90. Unordinary (Posts: 1692; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
Aren't we talking about complete wireless charging though??. Without silly charging pads where you cant enjoy using your phone while charging, in bed.
3. aegislash (Posts: 369; Member since: 27 Jan 2015)
Except that I can't have my S6 Edge+ in hand while wireless charging.
Yeah Apple may be **late to the game**, but if this ends up being true and you can actually wirelessly charge your phone from up to three feet away, congratulations to them for taking an already existing feature and breathing new life into it.
27. nighthawk_al (Posts: 55; Member since: 23 May 2014)
Dude, energy was able to be transmitted through EM waves a long time ago, but I would not want a device and charger that would fry my balls while using them, so yeah... not a good idea to have those "distance" wireless chargers around
51. Macready (Posts: 951; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)
EU regulated radiation levels of the current iPhones are already double that of most Samsung phones. Something rarely ever mentioned.
65. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Yes! But it charges slower than Apple's own wall charger.
Also consider, its only good for up to 3 feet. Most peopel hold their phone about a foot fron their face unless they are blind. Then consider some people have a body that is more than a foot wide on all 4 sides, and consider the space from your table, past the couches arm-rest is also close to a foot. This would place the phone, nearly more than 3 feet away.
Sounds like you will have to sit with it in your lap almost to even use it.
Again that isnt even the problem. The problem is, it charges SLOWER than Apple's own wall charger.
84. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
You are likely correct because the S6/Note 5 don't support this technology because they must have Qualcomm chipsets and all of Samsung's 2015 phones are Exynos.
Which is why Samsung made a tech supporting PMA and Qi.
4. Rafishant (Posts: 258; Member since: 13 Oct 2015)
Next time, read the article before spreading hate comments
15. BradyCrack (Posts: 674; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)
I wouldn't worry just a troll looking for attention, just ignore them. There is one on every iPhone 7 post you could think of.
5. darkkjedii (Posts: 21201; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Nahhh, it'll just be a welcomed mature feature that's new to iOS. Also when you mention android, mention the Palm Pre. It had it long ago too.
6. Raito (Posts: 58; Member since: 15 Aug 2014)
I think it's difficult bro because those Fandroids always thing that their handheld are greatest innovation in the world,they will thing that Palm Pre or even Symbian doesn't exist,all technologies are from Android era,silly huh?
8. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4185; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
I can't speak for the other "fandroids" but I don't think my device is the greatest innovation in the world, but then I also don't think that any other smartphone is either. They're all pretty much the same, other than minor differences in features and performance. There is nothing glaringly different between any of these devices if you actually look at them without bias.
I have no problem with the iPhone or Windows phone. If anything I have issues with their business practices and their fanbase, but then again I can say the same for Google as well. But hey, keep following that they're wrong/we're right mentality, great way to set yourself apart from them.
14. nctx77 (Posts: 1959; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
How quickly we forget what phones were before the original iPhone...what your saying is all phones now pretty much look like a larger version of the revolution that happened in 2007.
35. darkkjedii (Posts: 21201; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Notice BLSEOTB didn't respond to that one?
98. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
I'll intercede a response at this moment... NOT ONLY did Apple steal from Palm Pre, but STOLE Sony employees, and their design secrets...
Then the greedy Apple ripped off HTC's DESIGN, which they're currently using... I judge fairly, I use an iPhone also. O.o
56. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4185; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
I haven't forgotten anything. But that also doesn't mean that everything single device is revolutionary anymore either. In fact besides the original iPhone and maybe a handful of others, none of it is revolutionary. The ip4 with Retina wasn't revolutionary, it was evolutionary.
And no I'm not saying that at all, I'm saying that even Apple hasn't done anything revolutionary since the first one, no matter how many times they used the term in their keynote, or how many of their fanboys yell it. Everything since then has been pretty commonplace. What they did with the first one was change how and who used smartphones. Since then they added a higher resolution screen, added a virtual assistant and a fingerprint scanner, none of which was actually their tech.
97. KnowledgeIsPower (Posts: 1; Member since: 31 Jan 2016)
How quickly did you forget that Htc played a big part of development for the original iPhone up until the third generation!
9. darkkjedii (Posts: 21201; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Yes, very silly. The first phone I had with WC, was the Palm
66. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
No. I dont think Android phones are the top innovations in the world, they do have some of the top innovations in the world.
Samsung and Qualcomm not only support wireless charging, Samsung took it further by accepting both types in a single device. Then a few months later, brought wireless fast charging which will charge a phone from 0% in less than 90 mins which is half the time of ALL PRESENT iPHONE MODELS.
Consider the fact the iPhone has a battery in both models smaller than Samsung's batteries and even with Samsung's standard charger, you can still charge a Note 5 in less than 180 mins. While the iPhone takes over 300 mins with its standard charger and just over 2 hours if you use the iPad charger with the iPhone.
This new solution sir, is slower than both Apple's standard wall chargers but it is being called "cutting edge".
Here is the quote from the source:
"Efficiency of power transfer decreases as the distance between transmitter and receiver grows, which means batteries take longer to recharge. "
Which means you need to sit close for an effective charge. You may as well use the cable. At least you can buy an extended USB cable and it will have no effect on how long your device charges.
7. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Read the article... and plural for sheep is "SHEEP".... do you even grammar?
My damn Toothbrush had inductive charging before Google even considered buying Android.... It's nothing new... It's all about charging WIRELESSLY - that's something no phone or device can do that I know of...
Pad charging IS NOT wireless charging - I've been saying this for years!!! Get it right!!!
22. sissy246 (Posts: 994; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)
How is it not wireless charging. No wires to phone ,= wireless charging.
23. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Then how do you describe wi-fi? Do you place your phone of your router to just to use wifi? No. It's WIRELESS.
PAD CHARGING is Inductive Charging - not wireless. Because if Apple (or anyone else for that matter) comes out with a way to charge your phone 2 feet, 5 feet, across the room from a charging port without wires - what would you call that? So if using Internet thru air (wifi) is wireless than charging devices thru air is wireless. That means, Whatever android phones and my toothbrush uses to charge is in fact NOT wireless. And the correct term is "inductive".
There is a wire to the pad that charges your phone, just because your micro-USB need to be inserted for contact and a pad does not need to be inserted but still requires contact is practically the same thing - just a little more convenient if you don't need to use the phone while it's charging (otherwise it's actually very inconvenient if u need to charge with pad and use the phone).
I can't believe you need this to be explained to you...
99. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
I don't come to PhoneArena daily because i'm keeping my two handsets for another year, but that do not mean I don't keep up with their articles... When I saw this I had to post. Please stop supporting idiots...
I can ask the internet anything i'm researching. O.o
41. khalimany (Posts: 11; Member since: 29 Jan 2016)
good God! simple english my friend. 'wireless' simply means without wires. inductive charging is still for all intents and purposes wireless. comprende?
45. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
So by that definition our cars are flying off the ground thru the air? I mean, based on your logic, it's not tires that are holding the car up, it's the air inside, right? So it's the pad charging the phone, not the whole assembly of wires carrying electricity thru the pad that's in CONTACT with the device?
Think about it, you still have a contact between the pad and the phone, there is a wire carrying electricity to the pad and there's no empty space between the phone and the charging pad, just like there's a wire carrying electricity to the end of the charging cord that is also in contact with the phone and there's no empty space between. As soon as you put half an inch of empty space between pad and phone - it does not charge, same with a charging port.
Wireless charging means there is considerable amount of empty space between POWER source and DEVICE that's being charged.
If a company Samsung or Apple comes out with real over the air charging solution, what the hell are you going to call it, if induction charging that requires a connection with the pad is already called "wireless"?
46. Macready (Posts: 951; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)
This nonsense argument again. Even with larger distance wireless charging, the transmitter (or multiple) is wired, just like a router is wired. Technology and logic don't seem to be your strongest suit.
Wireless is wireless, regardless whether that's 2 inches (Samsung S6 for example) or 3 feet from a wired base station or transmitter. The definition was founded ages ago and does not include vague descriptions like "conderable amount of empty space", as you just made up.
48. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Not making it up... I consider wireless is something I can pick up and it charges with any device attached or next to it.. like WiFi...
I'm just asking, what are you going to call wireless charging when it's not required to be touching a charging mat/pad, but instead can be completely independent in you hand while you're reading something in your bed? What are you going to call that kind of charging when "wireless" is already used to name something that's inductive charging not wireless...?
50. Macready (Posts: 951; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)
Inductive is and has been for decades, by definition one of many types of wireless connections or in this case, types of wireless power transmission. That's not magically going to change because people like you would be confused if transmission through a longer distance is called wireless too. The only difference is that there are near field and far field technologies out there. Which isn't exactly new either...
53. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
So what would you call it? once it's really wireless?
54. Macready (Posts: 951; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)
Wireless, if that wasn't overly clear yet. And for those easily confused, they could add the far field description.
77. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
WiPower charging technology doesnt require you to touch the pad and it predates Apple's upcoming option.
You shopuld go read about WiPower which Qualcomm now owns. dude.
You keep blasting people and you dont have the facts ogf what you're talkign about.
All of your posts have been wrong in the point you are tryign to claim. Go read about WiPower and come back and apologize.
YOU ARE WRONG>..WRONG and dare I say it again..>WRONG!
57. TBomb (Posts: 733; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
Well.. not really... If you go far enough away from the router (well call it an "Internet Station" for the time being), the wireless effect stops working. If you go far away enough from the pad (well call it a "Charging Station") it stops working too. Just because the range is different doesn't mean it's not wireless.
However, I know very little about the wireless charging world, nor does it really matter to me right now so I don't really care
74. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Inductive charging is a form of wireless charging because it doesn't require a wire from the source of the energy and the receptive device.
You seem to be not understanding how wireless charging works.
"he Alliance For Wireless Power is an industry standard group that uses the principles of magnetic resonance to develop a wireless energy transfer system over distance. The WiPower system uses directed and controlled magnetic fields to replace traditional power cords. To do this, the transmitter utilizes one or more primary windings in order to induce an even magnetic field above its surface. A receiver in the magnetic field uses a secondary winding which captures the magnetic energy and converts it back to electrical energy.
WiPower's system was based on modified coreless inductive technology and dynamically adjusts power supplied by the transmitter to power demanded by the receiver without the need for control systems or communication. As such, the company's technology represents a simpler design versus alternate wireless power solutions. The system is capable of supplying power to multiple receivers simultaneously that are placed on top of the transmitter in any position or orientation, and the company has reported DC to DC efficiencies between 60-90%.
These technologies were combined in a backwards compatible manner with Intel and Qualcomm's wireless power over distance technologies to be standardised by the Alliance For Wireless Power."
Apple patented a technolgy that si exactly what WiPower is and was bought by Qualcomm and Samsung devices already support out the box.
Apple is late, but that is ok. Later is better than never.
But you need to look up the facst of the technology because you are giving wrong information to peopel who arent literate to tecjh.
I didnt know about this either and I spent an hour looking it up. Its called research, something fans NEVER do.
93. sissy246 (Posts: 994; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)
There is no wires hooked to my phone so yes that makes it wireless, never said the pad was wireless.
I don't need sh!t explained to me but you do.
67. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
It's wireless because you don't have to plug a cord directly into the phone, just like wireless wifi is wireless because you dont have to have a hard line to a PC or phone.
The point is brother, the source still has to be plugged into a wall to get power to even send to your device.
I dont see how that is any different.
WiPower is the company that originally patented this technology. It appears Qualcomm bought WiPower out and is offering the technolgy with a Pad.
The concept works the same. You have a distance of up to 2 metres which means your device doesn't have to actually be laying on the pad.
If you go here an read -https://www.qualcomm.com/produ
You will see, the pad can power any device that is within 2 metres, which means you can power a lamp which wouldnt be sitting on the pad.
Please go look at facts because you call someone out when you have no idea what you're talkign about.
See i look up s**t I don't know anything about.
Also just for YOU specifically?! The source of the technology still requires you plug the unit into an AC outlet. So again you are WRONG!
It si no more wireless than any other wireless solution that exists. Also, since Samsung devices also support QI, that means they can use Qualcomm version of this tech which Apple has also now patent AFTER QUALCOMM did. Qi qill allow me to charge a phone without laying it on the pad. Just look at the link I gave you. You will see the pad has a radii that would allow devices as far as 2 metres to charge wirelessly. Which is EQUAL TO WHAT APPLE IS ALSO DOING!
So based on typical fanboy banter, Apple is again COPYING ANDROID!
Oh and just FYI, Resonant Induction is used in lots of products, but not specifically for charging things.
You need to read the source and also go to Wiki and I went to Qualcomm site to read how the technology actually works. If you really are a tech nerd like me, you will find it very interesting and I think you will like it.
Notice I didnt call you any names
85. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
"Do you even grammar"...isn't correct grammar...Mr Grammar police...
But it was funny how you said it.
13. nctx77 (Posts: 1959; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
Android phones need to be on a mat buddy. This is true wireless tech! Deal with it!
68. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
No they do not. You are 100% wrong and stupid.
Please read this and understand you are wrong and you need to apologize to the other poster for callin ghim out when you are more wrong that he is.
"Not just wireless—TOUCHLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Devices DON'T have to be in direct contact with a charging pad, just within the charge area."
WiPower is the company that patyented this FIRST according to Wikipedia.
Qote from Wikli:
"Apple Inc. applied for a patent on the technology in 2010, after WiPower did so in 2008"
Qualcomm aquired WiPower
38. Switch00 (Posts: 472; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)
Wireless??? Well if it aint a wire coming under that phone...
11. combatmedic870 (Posts: 626; Member since: 02 Sep 2015)
So this will be a super proprietary standard that Noone will be able to use. Just like Apple loves to do it.
12. RoboticEngi (Posts: 709; Member since: 03 Dec 2014)
Yup and all manufacturers have to make all their equipment "made for iphone". Which will get all the sheep go mental again.
72. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
How? WiPower has this tech and invented their own prior to Apple and Qualcomm bought the tech in 2010 and has been offering it in products since 2011.
It si now 2015 bruh?!
Go online or read my other posts and look at all the facts.
I fact checked to make sure you guys STAY IN LINE...(bugs life) LMAO!
16. haikallp (Posts: 204; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Wireless charging range of 1metres. Sounds awesome.
17. submar (Posts: 462; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)
Welcome to wireless charging era, Apple. Welcome.
18. peace247 (Posts: 204; Member since: 26 Apr 2014)
I think some company introduced this kind of tech in the CES. But kudos to apple if this becomes reality.
19. pongkie (Posts: 538; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
yay sounds like radioactive wireless charging