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The Note5's/Galaxy S6 edge's main camera revealed to be a Sony IMX240 unit, Samsung ISOCELL up front

Note5 & Galaxy S6 edge+ camera detaisl — Sony's IMX240 sensor for the main camera and an ISOCELL unit for the front shooter

Note5 & Galaxy S6 edge+ camera detaisl — Sony's IMX240 sensor for the main camera and an ISOCELL unit for the front shooter

Samsung isn't in the habit of disclosing precise information regarding the camera sensors it uses for its smartphones — even on the flagship level — often leaving us to guess for a while as to what it made use of every time a new high-end comes out. Thankfully, now that the dust has settled and we've had time to tinker with the Note5 and Galaxy S6 edge+, we figured it's high we time we answered this particular question.

As it turns out, like the Galaxy S6, both of Samsung's new super-phablets sport a Sony-made Exmor RS IMX240 sensor at the back — a 1/2.6" unit with 1.2μm pixels and 16 megapixels of resolving power. Up front, we're again looking at a Samsung-made unit already in use with the Galaxy S6 — the ISOCELL SLSI_S5K4E6_FIMC_IS — with 5 megapixels. 

It'll be interesting to see if Samsung will once again push one of its own 16-megapixel ISOCELL sensors for inclusion with the Note5. Last time around, with the Galaxy S6, that particular unit seemed to only become available with latter batches of the device, and people generally felt that it is inferior to Sony's (though we haven't personally checked). In any case, if you hurry up and snatch a Note5 or Galaxy S6 edge+ unit soon, it's likely that the IMX240 is what you'll get.




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posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:59 1

1. thegeneral7010 (Posts: 319; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)


Samsung will never stop its stupid deviation policy.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 15:33 6

19. Aploine (Posts: 426; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)


http://tinyurl.com/mfdufql
I would take the Isocell sensor anytime instead of the imx240.
The problem is that you don't realy know which of the two you
buy with the S6

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 16:33 1

22. nwright94 (Posts: 192; Member since: 14 Oct 2014)


I ended up with the ISOCELL sensor on my GS6, colours are more natural and detail is just as sharp compared to my boyfriends S6 Edge with the Sony sensor.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:01 8

2. anleoflippy (Posts: 595; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


No surprise, Sony's camera sensors has always been good and used by a lot of companies. Can't say about Sony's own phone though.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:56 1

11. marorun (Posts: 3130; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


My Sony Z1 take better picture than the Samsung S6.

But i need to use an app Called Camera FV-5 to unlock its full potential. ( and even if i use it on the S6 the picture dont get better.. )

Its the camera software thats suck on Sony phone.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 13:29

17. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1036; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


And my Lumia 1020 takes better pictures than both.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 15:28 1

18. TerryTerius (Posts: 1539; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


The Lumia 1020 is also far slower.

Just like the Sony z1, if it takes you 20-40 seconds to get a picture as good as one I can snap in less than 5 seconds without ever needing manual controls I wouldn't exactly call that a great camera.

That is what these discussions always seem to be missing. If you need to play with settings and make changes on your phone in order to get a better picture than one I can snap with auto mode, then your phone is objectively worse at doing its job.

Most mobile photography is going to be spur of the moment. In a lot of those situations, I'd even say most; you don't have the luxury of time to make a picture just right.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 16:35

23. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1036; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


It doesn't take me "20-40 seconds" to get a picture as good as you can get in 5 seconds. I can get a picture better than you can get in around 20-40 seconds. Key word there is "better". And then it only takes 2 seconds between photos. And no, head to head match up between phones with both getting the best possible results with manual controls, the lumia 1020 always wins hands down. Keep living in denial in your fantasy world, fanboy.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 21:51 1

26. TerryTerius (Posts: 1539; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


Well this will be fun.

I've owned the Nokia Lumia 920, Nokia Lumia Icon (briefly) HTC One M8, LG G3, Samsung Galaxy S3, Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge, and iPhone 6. Please tell me how in the hell you figure I am a fan boy? Because I disagree with you? That is amazing logic

That is exactly the point. The S6 and the iPhone 6 require very little fiddling whatsoever to get good pictures. They are the two of the fastest phones on the market, and the 1020 is nowhere near as quick. It's not even a discussion. The 1020 can take great pictures, but it takes longer for it to do so. That was the beginning and end of my point. At no point did I ever say the image quality was bad, or worse than anything else.

And even then, in the years that have passed the difference between the 1020 and the LG G4, iPhone 6 plus or Galaxy s6 is NOWHERE near as large as you would love to pretend it is under most circumstances. But I understand we tend to over exaggerate and blow things out of proportion, but let's just be honest here.

The fact is the camera on the 1020 is slow. It takes 4-5 seconds for it to launch, and about 2 seconds to take a photo. This is from personal experience having used my aunts frequently whenever I was at a photoshoot or fashion show to take some behind the stage pictures, back when I still had my S3 because it was a vastly superior camera. That being said, time has passed and your rose tinted glasses couldn't possibly be any more scuffed. The 1020 is a great camera, but it is severely lacking in speed.

I don't need to use manual controls on the S6 to get a great picture. And the iPhone 6 takes damn good pictures 90 percent of the time without me having to go back and edit anything. The 1020 did too, but it was usually after playing with manual controls which makes it less convenient. It is not a point and shoot cameraphone in the same way that an S6 or iPhone 6 is.

I have plenty of personal experience with it, don't sit there and make any assumptions about me just because you're a windows fanboy and you refuse to even entertain the concept that other platforms are superior in certain ways to Windows, or have better alternatives or that Microsoft has any weaknesses whatsoever. And you have the nerve to call me a fanboy when you are the most adamant defender of Windows Phone and denouncer of everything that isn't it on their platform on all of PhoneArena.

I've owned 7 Phones on 3 platforms in the past three and a half years. What about you?

I have no problem admitting that Samsung, HTC, Sony, LG, Apple or whom ever have weaknesses in their hardware or could benefit by implementing ideas from other companies. Android, iOS and windows all have weaknesses in their platforms. If you want I'll sit here and debate these things with you, and we can hash it out. But don't dare call me a fanboy simply because I disagree with you on something. That is child logic dude.

posted on 27 Aug 2015, 08:32

28. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1036; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


It does make a large difference when you are taking pictures and scaling them up or displaying them on a screen with the correct resolution. Display a high res shot from a Lumia 1020 on an 8k screen and do the same with any other phone camera. The details capture by the 1020 are of much higher quality(under proper lighting conditions) the fuzziness that is sometimes apparently when the 1020's pictures are displayed is a result of displaying it on a screen without a high enough resolution. I do get good images with the automatic settings as well. I never said the 1020 wasn't slow, its slow because it's processor is inadequate for the sensor. However, I believe that 2 high quality shots are better than a bunch of crappy shots from the iphone. The reason why I support Windows Phone is that its a better platform than IOS or Android. Android and IOS are less secure than Windows Phone(IOS being the most insecure). Cortana is a better assistant than Google Now or Siri. Iphones only have 1gb of ram and always lag over time and the battery life sucks. Android has issues with ram management, battery life and background data usage. Android can stutter frequently or lag. Although samsung devices have the issues much more than others, that I am aware of. I don't care much for it. I have tried Iphones and android devices, and I do currently own an android device(simply because it was free and I haven't played around with Android in a while). Android and IOS are copying each other all of the time, the UI wastes so much of the space on the screen with the default layouts.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 15:46 1

20. TerryTerius (Posts: 1539; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


I'm not sure what's funnier. The idea that you genuinely believe even half the stuff that you post on here, or the fact that you go through hilarious extents to try and bash Samsung as the worst phone manufacturer on earth.

You are genuinely one of the most amusing people on phone Arena. Your dedication to bashing specific inanimate objects is almost awe inspiring.

posted on 27 Aug 2015, 08:38

29. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1036; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


Samsung is not the worst manufacturer, not even close, however they are terrible with software. Their hardware is nice, for the most part. I am not a big fan of how the S6 and note 5 looks, however. Too much like an Iphone. The edge is a little more unique(however nokia had been working on a double edged display since a couple years ago until it was cancelled or paused due to the Microsoft acquisition according to leaked documents) and not essentially an Iphone clone.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 17:16 1

24. JadenKeuten (Posts: 15; Member since: 23 Dec 2012)


Laughing that you say that when the Z1 can't even compare to the cameras of it's day.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:05 1

3. fay99 (Posts: 100; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


Both back and front cameras will be ISOCELL soon. Same dirty trick will be used by Samsung. If Samsung doesn't also know their isocell is inferior to imx240, then why they put the imx240 in their phones for reviews and demos? Do they not want a higher score from review to fool people to buy the phone? Go buy it when this early batch is still using Sony!

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:26 8

6. TSMan2 (banned) (Posts: 363; Member since: 20 Aug 2015)


Until we don't see real comparison between both, your statement will be nothing but next regular bashing. And who told you that there will be other sensor in this case???
Of course this article trolled it first, knowing your reactions:
"with the Galaxy S6, that particular unit seemed to only become available with latter batches of the device, and people generally felt that it is inferior to Sony's (though we haven't personally checked)"

LOL
Why didn't they checked it??? Does some tech site checked it ???
Or it's better not to??? So the bashing to go on without any responsibility .

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:57 1

12. marorun (Posts: 3130; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


I saw example of both S6 and the one with Sony had better light and shadow detection.

For the rest they where equivalent.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 11:05 2

14. TSMan2 (banned) (Posts: 363; Member since: 20 Aug 2015)


I also saw and this is what was written:
"..the images captured using the Sony sensor appear to have more depth in them. In bright conditions, the IMX240 captured original colors, but it was the opposite otherwise - the ISOCELL sensor captured truer-to-life colors during low-light conditions. We’ve also thrown in 1:1 100 percent crops of images below for all the pixel-peepers out there to analyse. Also, the file size of images shot with the IMX240 was higher than those captured using the ISOCELL sensor."

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 12:38 1

15. fay99 (Posts: 100; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


It's a shame that more Samsung users are like Apple users blindly taking whatever they are given without even thinking what they should get. Samsung has to thank all these sheep by offering them 1 cent discount off any product they buy to make the sheep even happier. Because of these sheep's supports, Samsung can continue to use inferior components for the note 5 and any future phones after they get enough good reviews, as well as have more time to (or never) fix the current ram management issues on the s6 (which a lot of sheep claimed it's not an issue on their phones). Yes, no one had told any human that they will use different sensors, or no one had told any sheep that they will use the same sensor this time yet. Time will tell. Don't get me wrong. I do hope all note 5 will have the same Sony sensor, as there will be more happy note 5 users.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 13:10

16. TSMan2 (banned) (Posts: 363; Member since: 20 Aug 2015)


Wrong.
Nothing is like the Apple's users. Even Tim Cook called them "Unique Breed".
Samsung users move away from Samsung very easily if they find better. It's partly because of the Android that could be found on many brands. Partly because Apple already collected all the naïve ppl on the Planet.
I'm Note user, but will not buy Note 5 no matter how great it is(and it's the best), and if some other OEM make Note-like phone with swappable battery(or two days hard use) , SD support , and IR and better than Note 4, I will buy it with no doubt. Otherwise Note 4 will be my device for long time.
The point here is that the trolling was made by the article that ISOSELL on S6 is not as good as Sony sensor , with NO PROVE at all. Even in the article they admitted that. But thus they gave bashing start.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:48 2

10. erikngn (Posts: 33; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


There is a comparison between two S6s, one with sony sensor, and another with samsung sensor. And there are no major differences

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:07

4. Bm888 (Posts: 390; Member since: 06 Jul 2015)


yea in one way it's stupid considering consumers end up getting the differences in quality of an element (Soc,sensor or whatever) some inferior to the other ..but on another way I see it as Samsung trying compare their components to the industry's best which in long run offer better solutions, options or long term Dev of vast tech improvements eg exynos chipsets which over run *dragons and became the best solns Socs this year. .looking forward for their sensors toppling Sonys and their Os tizen toppling Googles Android. ....:)

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:17 2

5. manojmcn (Posts: 399; Member since: 16 Jul 2015)


Does it makes any difference, seems no. Just check the blind comparison of Note 5 vs iphone 6plus. Note 5 is way ahead.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:28

7. TSMan2 (banned) (Posts: 363; Member since: 20 Aug 2015)


From the article:
"with the Galaxy S6, that particular unit seemed to only become available with latter batches of the device, and people generally felt that it is inferior to Sony's (though we haven't personally checked)"

LOL
Why didn't they checked it??? Does some tech site checked it ???
Or it's better not to??? So the bashing to go on without any responsibility .

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:34

8. ninja_master (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)


Actually if i remember correctly GSMArena did the comparison a while ago.(forgot the link)

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:45

9. TSMan2 (banned) (Posts: 363; Member since: 20 Aug 2015)


How????
And what was the result????
G6 with ISOSELL worse than iPhone 6???? Or worse than Note 4??

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 20:16

25. ibend (Posts: 3515; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


no, its comparison of S6 with sony's sensor vs S6 with Samsung's ISOCELL.. both is great

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:59

13. TSMan2 (banned) (Posts: 363; Member since: 20 Aug 2015)


SamMobile made article about both sensors of S6 , and there is nothing like "one is better than the other" , as is trolling here.
And we know that SamMobile is made by iboys too. Right?

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 16:09 3

21. RoboticEngi (Posts: 583; Member since: 03 Dec 2014)


SamMobile found isocell for both back and front. So it's the same as for the S6 and S6 Edge. And who gives a f**k anyway, they all beat the crap out of the s**t bad iphone 6 and 6 plus....

posted on 25 Aug 2015, 08:11

27. sachouba (Posts: 152; Member since: 08 Jun 2014)


No it's not, Sammobile was wrong actually. Just read the comments under the article on their website.

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