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Samsung shows where Apple's US strongholds are
The Apple versus Samsung legal trial is bound to reveal some of the companies’ dirty and not so dirty secrets, and the last thing we get to see now is a map showing where in the United States Apple has the most following.

To defend its case this time, Samsung brought a full map showing which regions and states have adopted the iPhone and how this adoption rate has changed after the Galaxy S launched. This should counter Apple’s argument that after the Galaxy S Iaunched, Samsung really picked up pace in the States.

That’s not exactly true - while in some regions like the Pacific West Coast Samsung did boost its positions, in others like New England it actually lost market share. Also, Apple held huge metros like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago and New York by a wide margin. Check out the map to see the details, at least as they were in the first half of 2011.

source: AllThingsD

Samsung shows where Apple's US strongholds are

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posted on 14 Aug 2012, 10:12 8

1. fragmentation (banned) (Posts: 31; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


So none of the area is strength? Nice going Apple

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 10:52 2

5. Synack (Posts: 659; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


longggggggg time ago

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 11:09 3

9. fragmentation (banned) (Posts: 31; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


I'm sorry, Apple share is still increasing now

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 11:37 3

13. Phullofphil (Posts: 800; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)


Samsung can not sell phones any more and still would make a lot of money frome the mobile industry mostly apple cause they make a lot of there stuff. Also if they stopped making phones I would bet apple would use a lot more of there hardware. Alo when you consider apple vs Samsung it's more like apple vs android and in that regards since apple is making only one model they are doing amazing. But considering that a lot of people that buy android and there is that many different models Samsung in my opinion is doing better then apple even even though Samsung is kinda using apples business model. That is another point. If you consider that in this smartphone business or any business you want to take what people want in a smart phone and make it better the fact that it looks like Samsung and well the rest of the smartphone world is coping apple and I think it goes both ways goes to show where a lot of the advances in smart phone tech really shows that there is only one way the industry can go. Basically smartphones have to look and operate in one way. There is really no other way you can make one. Like how all televisions are basically the same shape and design but have different quirks that make them slightly differently. It's the hardware companies that are copying each other and the phone manufacturing companies are making a device based on what you can do with the hardware that is available. They are basically computers with the same properties. Screen, case, motherboard, memmory, hard drive, processor, graphics processor, modem, and so forth. The goal I guess is to basically to have the most amount of screen avaible and finding a spot to put all those hardware pieces that work the best into the smallest box while having the biggest battery that can be fit. That right there is gonna be how the smartphone is going to be built for ever so it's natural for them to look alike. I bet if you took a hundred companies and had them build the best phone posesable (i mean a touch screen smartphone not a regular phone)&and they could not see anybody else's to get ideas from you would eventually get a hundred phones that look almost the same. Assuming they had Simular operating systems. I would say the style of operating system can dictate little differences in the phones if they require more or less hardware buttons. Going back to older hardware systems like windows phone 6 and earlier and palms OS but the earlier one and basically all operating system there is a need for a home buttone. I really hope the lawsuit gets tossed out. I could have written this coment a lot shorter but what the heck I like to confuse myself. I am tired. I will not be going back to proof read I hope it makes sence.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 11:54 24

14. CommentBoxEnforcer (Posts: 78; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)


Write a comment, not a article

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:07 8

15. whysoserious (Posts: 316; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


^and this! is how you write a comment.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:10 16

16. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


That's no article...It's a thesis!!!

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:41 10

18. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


He can write all he wants but unless he uses paragraphs my eyes are still going to have a seizure the second they see a block of text the size of Steve Jobs' ego.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:40 11

17. Ohrules (Posts: 305; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


last line: "I will not be going back to proof read I hope it makes sence."

you could at least have proofread the last word

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:41 5

19. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


LOL^^

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:56 3

20. Connie.Linghus (banned) (Posts: 32; Member since: 14 Aug 2012)


iSee you typed that essAy on your iPhone with Auto Correction, jolly good read (on the loo).

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 15:41 3

25. abdane (Posts: 474; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


ur getting thumbs down not cause ur a sheep, also because of ur long essay ! :/

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posted on 14 Aug 2012, 23:42

31. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


sense? :)

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 10:15

2. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


I'm confused, is this a red state/blue state thing?

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 17:14 2

26. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


no… that would be political… this is showing samsung v. apple

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 10:28

3. sc5sdanny (Posts: 9; Member since: 30 Jul 2012)


Ahh the Koreans do talk to the chinese and the Chinese produce everything so apple needs to watch there moves.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 10:46 2

4. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 243; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


Interesting map and a good second defense as well. Samsung is trying to show that Apple isn't losing money to Samsung. I wouldn't be surprised if that $2.75 billion they claim that they lost to Samsung is money that they spent on suing all these Android OEMs.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 11:01 3

6. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


so according to that map, there is no region that Samsung took a commanding lead over apple with the SGS1 and only 2 regions.. the mid west, where it took the lead at all.

So far samsung's sales defense has been a lot more potent than apple's similar design offence.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 11:02 1

7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5530; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Another presentation should be the quarterly sales analyses that are produced by third party market analysis firms. These reports have consistently shown the implosion of Nokia and RIM market share and increase in Android (principally Sammy) and Apple market share. The market share reports further undercut the claim that Sammy took market share from Apple - it is hard to argue that were it not for Sammy's infringement, Apple would have had X more sales (Posner already threw out that argument in Apple v. Motorola).

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 11:18 4

11. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yes sir, you are correct sir!

I really cant see any angle that Apple can actually play to prove they lost sales. They show an increase in total sales every year and many quarters (other than the pre launch sales dip quarters) Every iphone was a new record in sales, they eat the vast majority of profits in the industry with only an 18% world wide market share. They've had supply shortages of the 4 and the 4s because they couldnt keep up with initial demand (or were purposefully keeping things thin to keep demand up).
Where and how exactly can they make the case that they are losing sales when they cant keep up with what they have??

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:59 3

22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5530; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


"I really cant see any angle that Apple can actually play to prove they lost sales."

Any attempt to prove lost sales by Apple is speculative at best. The testimony by Apple's accountant about hundreds of millions of calculations is going to bite them if the trial gets to a damages phase. Trial courts take a very dim view of speculative damages claims - just ask Larry about his experience suing SAP for lost business. And SAP admitted their subsidiary took support business away from Oracle.

When your sales are growing year-over-year, it is really hard to make a credible argument that you lost sales. Especially when you sold every iDevice you could make. The claim for lost sales due to not being able to produce enough iDevices is specious - is Apple going to claim that it is Sammy's fault every time a bird sh*ts on the car of an Apple employee? Apple is just being a PIG!

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 14:32 1

23. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 243; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


I wouldn't be surprised if it was revealed that Apple was padding their books. I remember when Steve Jobs got on stage and said that they sold 3.4 million iPhone in the first 3 days of the devices launch. When a week before it was said that they had less than a million for launch. Either they're counting sales that were made but customers are waiting for, or they're padding the numbers.

They also said that Apple didn't want certain sales and revenue information revealed. Which would probably make Apple look really bad if they are padding the books.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 23:42

30. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


agreed.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 11:08

8. perry1234 (Posts: 4; Member since: 14 Aug 2012)


Apple is always bullying other manufacturers in USA . As soon as their market share starts depreciating they pull out some evil tactics like lawsuits , negative publicity and demeaning advertisements. America likes democracy , but this s**t company is totally the opposite , giving very little choice to consumers, right from their app stores to their settings .Af if they never copied from Sony Ericsson . I hope they loose the trial to Samsung , unreasonable bas**rds..

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 11:11 2

10. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)


Samsung must stop supplying components and parts to Apple now, if Apple do not drop all lawsuits and cancel the trials and paying all Samsung legal fees. It is time for Samsung to fight back and protected all phone makers.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 11:20 2

12. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


they would have to break iron clad contracts to do that, which would but them up for a REAL lawsuit that they would quickly lose.

Besides, they make a ton of cash off of Apple. And until they can get their integrated LTE/HSPA+ 42 radios working in exynos properly, they are at a competitive disadvantage for sales in the US since our idiot carriers prize throwing up big fake internet stats over real world power and battey savings.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:58

21. downphoenix (Posts: 2267; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


Glad to be in a state that's not completely itard (Missouri for the curious).

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 15:19

24. -box- (Posts: 3712; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


MO FTW

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 17:58

27. Immolate (Posts: 270; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)


What's with the Obama Apple logo? I threw up a little in my mouth.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 18:17

28. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


He is your president, stop being a hypocritical douche canoe. I am sure you were one of those morons calling out people who disliked Bush but now that you dislike Obama, omg!

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 23:41

29. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


so, because he is your president, you cant have a negative opinion? I bet your one of those "hypocritical douche canoe"s that talked crap bout Bush but now expect people to be nice to Obama.

Southpark had it right..
Your choice is between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

posted on 15 Aug 2012, 01:30

32. TeenaPartridge (Posts: 2; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)


That’s not exactly true - while in some regions like the Pacific West Coast Samsung did boost its positions.

http://www.clevelandflowers.info/

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