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Samsung Galaxy S8 is facing manufacturing issues due to its selfie camera

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Samsung Galaxy S8 is facing manufacturing issues due to its selfie camera

DJ Koh, president of Samsung's mobile communications business, recently assured everyone that there would be "no issue of supply delay" with the new Galaxy S8 phones. According to Koh, the company has prepared for the expected record-breaking sales of the new handsets by doubling the initial supply compared to the Galaxy S7/S7 edge units that were produced in 2016.

While this year's first batch of about 20 million handsets will be able to satisfy the initial demand for the latest Samsung flagships, a new report from The Bell indicates that the smaller Galaxy S8 might actually run into some trouble over the long haul. The issue originates from the complex front module on the S8 which is harder to produce, as it is a combination of a camera and an iris scanner.

Citing unnamed industry sources, the news outlet reveals that Samsung is struggling to acquire enough front camera modules for the 5.8-inch model, as its supplier Patron is currently unable to increase the yield rate. Apparently, the current production yield is below 70%, which means that for every 100 units produced, more than 30 come out as defective. In order to provide Samsung with a stable supply, Patron needs to increase the rate to at least 80%.

The South Korean tech giant employs Power Logics as the front cam supplier for the Galaxy S8+. As the larger model doesn't use a unified camera module, Power Logics boasts a yield rate of above 90%, meaning that the firm won't have too much trouble in coping with the great demand from Samsung.

via The Investor

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posted on 31 Mar 2017, 06:37 3

1. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


The smaller one looks like the perfect size for me. It's just unfortunate that it comes with such a small battery. 3200 mAh would have made so much more sense.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 06:52 6

7. Mreveryphone (Posts: 1158; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


There wouldn't be that much of a difference... Would really just be a mind f to say the battery size increased 200 mAh...

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 06:55 7

8. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


That would increase the battery life by about 7%, which is not a small difference.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 07:15 15

11. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


7% is pretty small.
Besides, I'll take a smaller & safer battery that is made of newer chemicals that as per samsung will degrade less over time. So eventually this 3000mah battery will outperform and older 3200 mah battery that you want to see.

And what a first world problem

"Oh I love this phone.. but I cant get it because its 200mah below my expectations, even though the processor and other components are up to 30% less energy hungry than the previous model with the same size battery!"

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 07:35 7

15. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


7% may be enough difference between a phone dying on me in evening or making it through a day.

I am going to wait for battery results though. But I don't feel that this phone will make it through a heavy day with android sucking the battery in standby.

The components are a lot more power hungry than last phone BTW. Android 7 sucks more power and screen is a lot bigger and at a higher resolution. Those 2 are the biggest power consumers of my phone's battery and both got worse with the same size battery.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 08:32

18. VonSohn (Posts: 1; Member since: 31 Mar 2017)


It's not that simple, as the phone uses a great deal of juice for many processes and components besides the screen. Adding 200 mAh just for the screen is quite significant if power consumption of the rest of the device remains the same.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 09:16 1

20. LebronJamesFanboy (Posts: 586; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)


Exactly. Ty is right. 200mah makes a HUGE difference.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 09:32 1

21. FreedaBees (Posts: 1; Member since: 31 Mar 2017)


These phones use a 10nm process size processor, so should be more energy efficient than the S7 so the battery endurance should be greater for a given battery size. However that would be offset somewhat by the larger screen. Bluetooth 5 is also supposed to be more energy efficient.

We don't have any reviewers battery endurance benchmarks yet, however the stated 3G talk time for the S7 Edge was 27 hrs. The S8 is rated at 29 hrs.

If it turns out when benchmarked that the battery endurance is consistent with that claim, then the S8 should have greater endurance than the S7 Edge, which was already very impressive. Also, the S8 Plus has the same 3G talk time so it might not be much better in endurance than the S8

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 10:00

23. HomerS (Posts: 413; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


Wanna take a bet that the S8 with 3000mAh battery, has a better battery life than the G6 with 3300mAh? Because of the better and powereffiecient cpu/gpu and power management.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 10:54

24. LionStone (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)


Not sure what phone you are using but my htc10 on N has killer standby, it barely uses any power, it is the least item on the list of battery usage. Now I do recognize your concern with Samsung's implementation of N, as their software isn't always the best with optimization.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 11:50

26. Ruturaj (Posts: 1482; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


Tyrion do you get Exynos or snapdragon version, where you live?

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 12:04 1

27. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


S8 will definitely beat the G6. That doesn't prove anything though. If S8 used SD820, I would not be satisfied at anything below 4000 mAh.

G6 has poor to mediocre battery life. S8 being better than that doesn't make it a phone with great battery life.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 22:52 1

29. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13501; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Dude. 3000MaH is enough. No matter how much you repeat it, you will be wrong.

The chipset is 20%+ more efficient. The display is am sure gonna use more power.

It has fast charging though so I dont understand the problem?

My Note 5 with the same size battery still lasted 2 work days on a single charge.

After seeing them, the plus isnt even all that big.

It feels much slimmer vs my iPhone 7+. In fact it feel eerily close to my Note 7.

I just pre-ordered a 2nd, now that I dont have my Note. Even though my iPhone is on VZW, i pulled my T-Mo SIM out the Note and using that.

Gonna miss my Note. But I spend about 30Mins with the S8+ and I was instantly hooked.

I also look at the G6. The G6 is nice too, but the S8 is gonna most certainly be the 2018 MWC phone of the year and the Note 8 is gonna be next.

4/21 just cant get here soon enough!

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 23:37 1

32. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


3000 mAh is not enough. Note 5 battery life was mediocre, barely lasts one day. If that's enough for you, go with it.

posted on 01 Apr 2017, 10:40

34. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


same resolution big guy.

slightly bigger screen. Might be taller, but its also more narrow.

much less power thirsty internals.

Run black backgrounds and save tons of juice. The beauty of OLED.

My Note 4 runs through a heavy work day and it's rated at about half the battery life of the S8+ for screen time. I think you worry too much over nothing. I expect the S8+ to last through to the next day easily with normal usage.

posted on 01 Apr 2017, 10:56

35. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


S8 has a higher resolution screen. 2960x1440 vs 2560x1440. That's 20% more pixels to push.

Much bigger screen, S8 is 16% higher in screen area compared to S7. And yes, I accounted for the aspect ratios.

How much time of the day you keep staring at the background on your phone? That's it, none.

S8+ will have excellent battery life. I'm concerned about the regular S8 here.

posted on 01 Apr 2017, 10:59

36. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


Exynos. Though this time there's not much of a difference. Exynos should be about 5% faster in CPU and 20-30% faster in GPU related benchmarks compared to SD835.

More importantly though, both should have similar battery life.

posted on 01 Apr 2017, 17:58

37. tsp38 (Posts: 35; Member since: 04 Jun 2015)


they do have 10nm SoC which will draw less power. that's something.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

posted on 02 Apr 2017, 18:53

38. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13501; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Dude. The resolution is not that much higher vs QHD.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

posted on 02 Apr 2017, 18:55

39. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13501; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


And you know this because you own one?

posted on 05 Apr 2017, 13:54

42. NexusPhan (Posts: 632; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


You're completely wrong. All of the components (including the screen, despite the fact that it's bigger) use the same or less energy and the screen resolution as shipped (read: default settings) is actually LOWER than the s7.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 06:41 1

2. Spyro (Posts: 192; Member since: 29 Mar 2017)


To be honest, I honestly don't know why there would be a need for a 6.8" the size of a brick. Seems like a "poor use of space". Could've at least made some distinction from the S8 and the S8+ aside from bigger screen.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 06:58 6

9. joevsyou (Posts: 995; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)


6.8? you mean 6.2? I also hate when companies make the plus models different like you think the people who dislike the bigger phones don't want those features either?

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 07:16 2

12. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


I would have liked to see more of a distinction as well. Dual camera or something.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 07:17

13. chbanks512 (Posts: 27; Member since: 07 Mar 2017)


Ditto

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 19:38

28. drunkenjay (Posts: 1023; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)


its the size of the iphone 7 plus. dont see people complaining about the 7 plus size.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 22:53

30. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13501; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Exactly. Samsung makes both phone identical other than size. Liek the S6's were identical other than flat and edge and same for S7.

This isn't gimp the phone Apple.

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 06:41 5

3. Mreveryphone (Posts: 1158; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


Glad I ordered the +...

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 22:57

31. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13501; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Me (2). I wouldnt mind having the Exynos version too.

I'm opting for the Premium gift. $500+ were of stuff for $100 is a real deal.

The VR has to be $99~150 + 256GB microSD for $250~299 and the AKG headphones are $149.

Samsung brought the heat.

How much you bet Apple includes Beat Headphones with the iPhone 8.

But they still wont top getting VR and killed headphones.

The Note 8 at 6.4 with 4K and similar free stuff is gonna be awesome!

posted on 31 Mar 2017, 06:42

4. Cat97 (Posts: 196; Member since: 02 Mar 2017)


Exactly !

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