Samsung Galaxy S6 rumored to come with a 2,600mAh battery at the back
8. vincelongman (Posts: 4164; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
I doubt they'll downsize from the S5's 2800mAh battery
Then again, it could still have long battery life with 2600mAh because of Lollipop, 14nm and AMOLED
But actually mAH is the wrong reading
We need to know its Wh
i.e. V * mAh (or V * 10^-3 Ah)
Maybe the voltage is higher on the S6 (but higher voltage generally means more heat)
38. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
actually higher amps cause heat not voltage
68. vincelongman (Posts: 4164; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Higher watts = more heat
Watts = volts * amps
So technically we are both right :)
70. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
technically watts= power
P(W) = V(V) × I(A)
when i make a change to a circuit board this has to be taken into account.
9. Finalflash (Posts: 2795; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
It can and likely will, as Samsung has shown time and time again that it is willing to copy other company's strategies at the detriment of their own progress.
29. usermaxthon (Posts: 70; Member since: 20 Jan 2015)
It's going to an epic failure. No matter how efficient the processor or display is with 2600mAh they will stuggle to keep the same battery life of S5. If they truely come up with 2600mAh sealed battery many power user will leave The Galaxy, LOL.
56. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Brand new 14nm process, A53 cores = maximum efficency, and new battery tech/optimization a Samsung does should definitely prove you wrong.
59. j2001m (Posts: 2841; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Can we just make this clear they are coming for. Battery crap 28nm 801 in the s5 there will be no need for a bigger battery, that and the battery type is being changed so it will
Sat just as long as the bigger battery due to the type of battery being used, even if it had the same tech
71. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
problem comes down to apple buys dont care about battery because they dont know anything about it, however android owners are usually a lot more tech savvy and care about better higher specs then the last. look at the 8mp apple camera vs androids we always want more
73. Puremind (Posts: 19; Member since: 16 Feb 2015)
Actually the trend is towards smaller faster rechargeable batteries. The S6 is rumored to have 4 hours of battery life rechargeable in only 10 min, so that even if you forgot to recharge your phone at night you would still be able to have a full day of work.
16. maherk (Posts: 3495; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I won't be surprised if they did, and that won't be that bad. Their new cpu will be 30% more power efficient, and with amoled screens on top the S6 will have a great battery life just like it's predecessors.
The Note 4 kept the same battery size, and yet had a better battery life than the Note 3.
52. MrET1 (Posts: 110; Member since: 29 Jan 2015)
But still 2800 mah would be more logical then.
22. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
sorry earlier, I had the pic as a signature
37. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
I truly believed it was not downsize the battery just for the new phone they know how much a battery is important to everyone that buys phonesit's one of the biggest selling points for them considering now that you cannot remove the battery
49. Rhinoface (Posts: 176; Member since: 05 Dec 2014)
Pretty sure the Z3 is under 7mm, or if not only very slightly over, and it has a 3200 mAh.
58. kryme (Posts: 331; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)
wats the different with a phone with 2600mah and 3200mah that give you the same battery life..... it only show how good samsung is.... they have the heaviest skin with the best battery life on the smallest battery........
72. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
z3 is 7.3mm gs6 is 6.9 i think most if not all in the world would want the 7.3mm with 3200 battery.
67. Doakie (Posts: 1896; Member since: 06 May 2009)
Ugh. Go thicker and put in a 5,000 mAh battery like the BLU Studio Energy... 10.4mm thick is just fine. They don't need to copy Apple into the paper thin market. Do the smart thing and give your customers a 2 day battery life!
3. 14545 (Posts: 1468; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Keep following the iPhone samsung, see if I buy the s6. I say this as a person who owned the s4 and 5. Great job on the failure Sammy. I hope it works out for you.
6. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
LOL cry when the S6 out does any other phone this spring/summer.
12. vuyonc (Posts: 994; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)
Samsung could have made something truly great (design-wise). They already have a decent design language going in their MIDRANGERS! All they needed was a thicker, humpless version of the Alpha with a bigger battery. Nothing more :/
57. MrET1 (Posts: 110; Member since: 29 Jan 2015)
The renders show a more confortable grip than what the Alpha had. One of the things Alpha owners complained about was that the device wasn't comfortable to hold in your hands.
17. maherk (Posts: 3495; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
You're betting on the failure of a phone that all we know about are bunch of rumors and speculations.
Rooting for it to fail without seeing it, tells us that you owning an S4 and S5 is pure BS.
28. 14545 (Posts: 1468; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I'm typing this from an S5, idiot. I technically still have the S4 (or well, my fiancee does.) but I really don't care enough to prove myself to some idiot on phonearena. I have posted more than enough to back up my usage. Also, I'm saying I won't be upgrading when it comes out if this is their design and battery. Couple that with the removal of "water resistance" and not making the device any smaller are things that have turned me off. Oh, and don't forget the locked bootloader on the vzw model. Yeah, I'm considering changing brands again. The general public doesnt care about having the thinnest device on the block, but these companies haven't figured that out yet.
35. bucky (Posts: 2476; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
You might need to find a hobby/job if you get emotional and start calling people names because of smartphone discussions...
41. maherk (Posts: 3495; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
"I'm typing this from an S5, idiot. I technically still have the S4 (or well, my fiancee does.) but I really don't care enough to prove myself to some idiot on phonearena."
See, i found a bit of contradiction in your comment, you're trying to prove to me that you own an S5 and S4, yet you say you don't care enough to prove yourself to some IDIOT on phonearena. Lol
p.s: calling names ain't my thing, you might have offended me 15 years ago, but you need to try harder to offend me now. Good luck ;)
60. j2001m (Posts: 2841; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Ha, that's the problem this year Samsung have paid snapdragon to sell all the others oem a crap CPUs, so good luck with that
4. tech2 (Posts: 3401; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Couldn't care less.
Samsung phones already have one the best battery life in the business. Samsung is even better at optimizing battery then Google itself. Add to that the UPSM to prolong that remaining juice.
7. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Exactly. Everyone bashed the Alpha for havig a 1840mAh battery but slayed flagships in terms of battery life.
Hating Samsung was the biggest trend in 2014 and apparently followed to 2015.
11. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 900; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
In terms of battery life, Galaxy Alpha is roughly on par with iPhone 5s. Go check the review of both devices on GSMArena.
14. Neros (Posts: 1016; Member since: 19 Dec 2014)
0.7 bigger screen. I say it's at least decent. People just want to have thin phones, so sammy delivers.
21. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 900; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
l agree with you, at least it have a decent battery life, but it's not outstanding and slayed other flagships as PA and PapaSmurf stated.
24. bur60 (Posts: 838; Member since: 07 Jul 2014)
The Z3 compact on another note, 4,6 inch ips and flagship specs slayed other flagships :)
18. maherk (Posts: 3495; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
You're talking about a 0.7" bigger screen, and their test was before Samsung sent theit stability and performance update.
25. Kruze (Posts: 1285; Member since: 30 Dec 2014)
Alpha has a decent battery life, it's just that Papasmurf exaggerated it.
61. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
For a 1840mAh cell it lasts pretty damn long. Just saying.
13. vuyonc (Posts: 994; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)
"Samsung is even better at optimizing battery then Google itself."
EVERYONE is better at optimising battery life than Google itself.
31. usermaxthon (Posts: 70; Member since: 20 Jan 2015)
"Samsung is even better at optimizing battery life then Google itself."
Nexus 6 has worse battery life than Note 4 mainly because Nexus 6 has 1.6 years old amoled panel. In case you don't know display is the biggest battery sucker in the smartphone. I'll say it's amazing that motorola and google manage to get good battery life out of that crappy display.
39. tech2 (Posts: 3401; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Okay so lets compare something with absoluetly same DISPLAY, shall we.
Battery life of Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition:http://blog.gsmarena.com/batte
Battery life of GS4 from Samsung:http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsu
As you can see Samsung's optimization of battery beats the shit outta Google. The difference between 3G talk time is huge and Samsung did better on standby time as well.
42. maherk (Posts: 3495; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Damn it man, you've been on fire lately.
I am off and chilling at home today, so i ll wait and see what his comeback will be while watching the rerun of the AllStar game.
48. tech2 (Posts: 3401; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Thanks and don't hold your breath ;)
Have a nice day off.
50. usermaxthon (Posts: 70; Member since: 20 Jan 2015)
Do you even know how google play edition update policy works?
From the reply of my comment i'll say you don't (google it now). It's pretty obvious that Samsung didn't optimize the Galaxy S4 GPE edition battery life the same way as the optimize their regular edition. They done this to make their device (regular S4) look good. But I guess Ssheep like you will defend your beloved company no matter what even if the matter is as clear as this one.
83. tech2 (Posts: 3401; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Please englighten me how the GPE update policy works.
1. So you really think Samsung would paralize its own phone just to one-up with Google ? You do realize all or most of the profit goes to Samsung right. Infact, if anything Samsung would prefer selling GPE more since the customer pays the entire cost of phone upfront unlike receiving money in installments in carrier/contract phones. Also, by going GPE way Samsung saves a lot of money in software development and updating the device as its all handled by Google and its available online only to more saved unlike phones sold in physical stores. So obviously the profit margin is much higher in GPE. So, its makes zero business sense in what you're implying.
2. Samsung can't really handle the 'optimization' of battery of GPE since the optimization is done at software side. And since software is managed entirely handled by Google there is no way Samsung can mess about even if they wanted to. Samsung is just the hardware provider and nothing more.
4. Also, hardly anyone except tech geeks like us would follow or know about the battery life difference in both the devices. Samsung and Google mention the battery life on their respective sites of both the editions. So, again, Samsung has no real material gain of downplaying the GS4 GPE.
5. At first, atleast you made a point worth replying but now you're just spreading consipiracy theories because I bolstered your point about display in my reply. In just one post you went from blaming the display to battery. Just shows how anti-Samsung you're. Unless you've credible source of claims don't bother replying. Show us some proof like I did or get lost.
84. usermaxthon (Posts: 70; Member since: 20 Jan 2015)
Yeap,I was right, you're a real Ssheep who will defend his beloved company with his half ass knowledge. Updates for GPE edition devices are supplied by the original device manufacturer (in this case Samsung) and Googles responsibility is to deliver these updates bypassing the carriers. If you keep your eyes and ears open you would notice that Its always the OEM who annouce when their GPE version will get the update not google. So you see Ssheep software optimization or "battery life optimization" is entirely Samsungs responsibility and Since this is Samsungs responsibility it's really suspicious that regular version get this kind of battery life boost compared to GPE version.
Let me teach you something good : Of all the parts in a smartphone, smartphone's display sucks the battery life the most. Smartphone battery life vastly depends on how efficient the display is (there are other factors to consider of course but smartphone display efficiency plays a vital role). Smartphone with highly efficient display will have better battery life. So you see it is logical to relate bad display to bad battery life. I presented my argument in my post (comment #66). If you still can't understand or corelate what I mean when I said Nexus 6 has bad battery life mainly because it's old display then i'll say you're nothing but a jackass Ssheep.
85. tech2 (Posts: 3401; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
LOL...re-read my comment and educate yourself.
45. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
"Nexus 6 has worse battery life than Note 4 mainly because Nexus 6 has 1.6 years old amoled panel."
They were making QHD smartphone screens over a year & a half ago? Man, you're not very smart are you?
51. usermaxthon (Posts: 70; Member since: 20 Jan 2015)
Oh, I'm sorry. I should have been more clear. I should write 1.6 years old amoled "tech" not "panel". It's pretty clear that Samsung supply the last gen amoled panel to motorola/google.
Let see what anandtech said about about nexus 6 display -
"Overall, the Nexus 6 display is quite poor relative to the displays on other smartphones like the Galaxy Note 4, iPhone 6, and HTC One (M7). It's also a definite regression from the display on the Nexus 5, which is concerning given the fact that the Nexus 6 is $300 more expensive. It has been speculated that Motorola is UNABLE to source the LATEST GENERATION of panels from Samsung Display, which would explain why many of the panel characteristics are SIMILAR to PREVIOUS generation AMOLED panels in the Note 3 and Galaxy S4."http://www.anandtech.com/show/
I hope i clear up the confusion.
63. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I don't buy it. The technology needed to make a display that dense wasn't available until last year, so there just isn't a previous generation of it to speak of. Perhaps Samsung just sells the sh*tty versions of the panels they make to their competitors.
66. usermaxthon (Posts: 70; Member since: 20 Jan 2015)
Well, The Nexus 6/moto X display shows a lot of characteristics from previous gen amoled tech, like -
1. Green subpixels seem to be noticeably larger (very similiar to S4/Note 3's display) when compared to the Galaxy S5/Note 4's panel (lastest gen).
2. Pinkish white instead of Pure white.
3. Rainbow banding affect.
4. Higher power consumption. etc
So it would be not wrong to reach the conclusion that Samsung display sells the previous gen amoled tech.
And about the pixel density you're talking about I believe the tech was there but higher production cost prevent them to manufacturer it but now they improve their manufacturing process enough to produce relatively cheap QHD display. I read somewhere that In the lastest gen amoled samsung use new substance to produce energy efficient display. Most probably Samsung use the new substance for their S5/S5 LTE/Note 4 but use the same old substance (old tech) for the Nexus 6/moto X display. And judgeing by the similarities I'll say that's most probably the case.
79. penguinbelly (Posts: 143; Member since: 27 Dec 2014)
So Nexus 6's s**tty display and battery life is Samsung's fault? Man, you guys are pathetic.
Did people applaud LG (or Foxconn) for Apple's "Retina" display? How about the s**tty NANDs in the original Nexus 7? Does anyone know who even made those?
But somehow usermaxthon wants to blame Samsung for the Nexus 6's display and battery performance. Geez. Samsung did not decide to make and sell the Nexus 6. Neither Sony (camera), Sandisk/Hynix (memory), nor Qualcomm (SOC). It is a Google's product.
74. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
what if samsung uses its new tech the nanocrystal display even better color and power savings