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Samsung Display isn't able to sell Super AMOLED tech to anyone but Samsung

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Samsung Display isn't able to sell Super AMOLED tech to anyone but Samsung
Even though the Super AMOLED display may be praised and loved by many users around the globe, Park Dong-geun, CEO of Samsung Display - manufacturer of the highly vibrant screen tech, claims the company is having trouble selling the tech to any other mobile device builder but their parent firm – Samsung Electronics.

Sammy has been using and improving the Super AMOLED tech since before the first Galaxy S and its most recent iteration – in the high-end Galaxy Tab S – finally fixes color reproduction issues, that critics and tech enthusiasts have been griping about for at least a couple of years now.

Why other manufacturers choose not to buy Sammy's tech, but to work with other partners, or to develop their own tech entirely, is subject of speculation, though we believe it is safe to say that the competitors prefer to avoid funding the biggest fish in the mobile market whenever possible.

Don't lose your sleep over Samsung Display's troubles, though, as what the manufacturer is lacking in mobile sales, it's making up in screens sold for a wide range of non-mobile devices.

source: CNET via SamMobile

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posted on 10 Jul 2014, 05:35 23

1. GreekGeek (Posts: 763; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)


Amoled is NOT better compared to iPS or SLCD, it's only DIFFERENT,that's all there is to it

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 05:37 32

4. Ashoaib (Posts: 1924; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


come onnnnn.... thats an old story now

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 07:13 1

18. sar44 (Posts: 197; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


In addition to Samsung OLED displays make / will make lg, boe, auo, sony, panasonic

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 06:00 25

8. MrKoles (Posts: 314; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)


Its better by a huge margin ;)
Eyes dont lie.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 06:13 3

12. ArtSim98 (limited) (Posts: 2738; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


IGZO is the best.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 07:07 4

16. MrKoles (Posts: 314; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)


Even LTPS is better than IGZO...just take a look at Android Authority's rather new article.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 22:37

38. Shatter (Posts: 2023; Member since: 29 May 2013)


IGZO is not the best.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 06:18 27

13. hung2900 (Posts: 793; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


LG OLED TV and Samsung OLED TV are two best TV in the market. All reviews proved. All customers proved.
So OLED tech is far ahead LCD tech.

And currently Samsung's AMOLED on mobile surpassed LCD. Viewing angle and the "black" level is unbeatable. The thinnest is unbeatable. Now they fix the color issue and sunlight brightness issue. The purple halo on GS4 does not appear on GS5. Burn-in is the problem of theory when users of GS3 and Note 2 still have a fine display. A number having problem with burn-in, but not many. Remember that also a number of LCD users have dead pixels, and almost all have light-bleeding (in different level, some are very terrible)

So what's your point?

Sunglight test:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mn1Vk73LF0
Color accuracy test:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6zp42qGnI

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 06:56 3

14. BooBooooooo (Posts: 56; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)


you're definitely right

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:16

20. Dejavu_LT (Posts: 19; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


Talking about OLED - yes, technology is far ahead everything on the market, but..i'm not sure you know that everybody, except LG, already stop making OLED due to high production costs and low demand (because the price is super high) :)

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:27 3

22. mixedfish (Posts: 98; Member since: 17 Nov 2013)


Talk about selective evidence. So apparently what makes a good screen is black levels and viewing angles? Funny how you ignore that the thinnest bezel phones are Sharp phones with IGZO screens ie LCD. And who are those 'users' with GS3 and Note 2 that still have 'fine display', black spots on AMOLED is like 1+1=2 it's bound to happen, it's just not a deal breaker.

Love the part where when it comes down to important stuff like colour reproduction, you just link to some unknown Indian youtube dude waggling around phones as if his subjective opinion is even close to fact. Yet with all that said and done till today the phone with the closest to the 6500k temperature mark is made by a phone with LCD.

It's as comment #1 said, "it's only different". Geez.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 09:31

29. BooBooooooo (Posts: 56; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)


So, you can say that LCD isn't better than TN. it's only different

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 09:46 1

31. hung2900 (Posts: 793; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


"o apparently what makes a good screen is black levels and viewing angles?"
They are important points to be mentioned when in other critical areas like sunlight visibility and color reproduction it's on par the best or even surpass many (like One M8, Z2).

"How you ignore that the thinnest bezel phones "
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/22/lg-hd-oxide-display-eyes-on/
That's about bezel, and about the thinnest LCD cannot surpass OLED basically (OLED doesn't need LED backlight)

"Note 2 that still have 'fine display', black spots on AMOLED is like 1+1=2 it's bound to happen"
I agree about black spots on Note 2. But I mentioned about the burn-in problem, didn't I? And I said "fine", not "perfect". Black spots are almost unable to be recognized unless on a 90-95% black screen. It's also fixed since GS4, where the black is 100% black, not still a little bit gray like GS3 and Note 2

"ndian youtube dude waggling around phones as if his subjective opinion"
Okay so you can turn off the sound and distinguish by yourself, ok? Or you don't know to do it, or you don't know what "good color reproduction" really is, or just your prejudice.. The youtube video is just the real experiment, professional tests are out already, you can check.

"Closest to the 6500k temperature mark is made by a phone with LCD"
Look at the color temperature part.
http://anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/2

You don't know anything you said.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 12:19 3

35. sachouba (Posts: 24; Member since: 08 Jun 2014)


Have you ever tried using an AMOLED display in the dark, compared to a LCD display ?
On the Samsung Galaxy S5, it's absolutely impossible to tell whether the screen is on or off when a black image is displayed, even with the max brightness. Whereas it just looks ugly on a LCD display.

And do you know how good the Galaxy Tab S's colour reproduction is?

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 16:21

37. TheGenius (Posts: 326; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)


I am one of those users.
My note 2 has more than a fine display.

The latest samoled display on tab s are better than iphone for the temp part which I guess was closest to 6500k mark.
So I guess samoled has a upper hand in that part as well.!

posted on 12 Jul 2014, 07:58

40. Jmerithew87 (Posts: 5; Member since: 29 Mar 2014)


Here's a video from a more reputable Youtuber. It's the 3 QHD phones. In cinema mode, the S5-LTE A is the clear winner. IPS isn't bad, but I think it's reached its limits, where AMOLED is really starting to hit its stride. It's just a shame Samsung and Motorola are the only 2 that really use it for Android. I'm not big on Touchwiz, and since Motorola is focusing on the low end market we probably won't see a 2k AMOLED phone from them until 2015 or 2016.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 22:38

39. Shatter (Posts: 2023; Member since: 29 May 2013)


It is impossible to beat the blacks of Samsungs recent OLEDs because it is literally black.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 07:04 1

15. Vinayakn73 (Posts: 119; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


My secondary phone Wave 3 is pretty much (2-1/2 years) old and screen is facing serious burn in problem. Since last 4 months horizontal patches were started to appear. and the top indicator is also pretty much printed on screen.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 07:11 2

17. sar44 (Posts: 197; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


better cantrast, better black color, better viewing angles, better response speed

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 10:58

33. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1352; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


That depends on what it's used for. For something like Active Display on the Motorola phones, using anything other than amoled would defeat the purpose.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 05:36 16

2. Ashoaib (Posts: 1924; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


Super Amoled is their strength and the signature display of samsung's flagships...
if others will use the same screen then I will have nothing to praise about samsung... samsung must not sold these screens to others, just to keep their distiction

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 05:36 6

3. sipha (Posts: 265; Member since: 12 May 2012)


They all just jelous..

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 05:38 2

5. Maryewww (Posts: 26; Member since: 16 Sep 2013)


I think the only two major OEMs using super amoled are Motorola and Nokia, I am still a fan of IPS but amoled has really gone a long way in improving in all areas

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 05:38 13

6. tech2 (Posts: 2035; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Amoled is handling 2k brilliantly (less power consumption), check Pocketnow's review of GS5 A-LTE as against LCDs, take LG G3 for example.

Not to mention it has also achieved the flexible break through and significantly less reflection.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 05:40 7

7. kanagadeepan (Posts: 667; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


Motorola is using AMOLED screens in Razr series, Moto X, DroidMAXX and Ultra.. From whom they are buying?

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 06:10

11. hung2900 (Posts: 793; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


I don't understand. If I'm not wrong, a report said Samsung has opccupied 96% of AMOLED market.

And the funny thing is the strange display matrix of Moto Droid Ultra is the same as Note 2. The same as the pentile screen on Lumia 925 and so-called "diamond pixel" pentile screen on Lumia 1520. Another thing is these screen didn't come so late after Note 2 or Note 3. How come another company can produce something similar to Samsung with a "similar" roadmap? Strange.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 07:26

19. nlbates66 (Posts: 293; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)


as far as I know, Motorola and Nokia probably indeed source their amoled displays from Samsung, even if they don't use the "super AMOLED" labelling.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:30

23. mixedfish (Posts: 98; Member since: 17 Nov 2013)


Yes it's 'Super AMOLED' that Samsung isn't selling to competitors. All AMOLED is from Galaxy 1 days, or 1st gen stuff if you will.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 10:34

32. Odiin (Posts: 221; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


@ hung2900

Nokia Lumia 1520 has a IPS LCD with traditional full RGB matrix screen.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 11:01

34. kanagadeepan (Posts: 667; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


Sorry to differ from you, but want to show FACTS... (I don't have idea about NOKIA phones)

Non-Pentile AMOLED phones, but with BIGGER blue sub-pixel:- {coz Blue sub-pixel has less life}
Galaxy S2
Galaxy Note 2
Moto X
Droid MAXX
Droid Ultra

Pentile AMOLED but with Diamond matrix sub-pixel:-
Galaxy S4
Galaxy Note3
Galaxy S5

Pentile AMOLED and non-diamond matrix:-
ALL OTHER SAMMY AND MOTO phones incl
Galaxy S
OG Galaxy Note
DroidRazr / MAXX
Galaxy S3
Droid RazrHD / MAXX_HD

Best is (imho)
[1] non-pentile AMOLED
[2] Diamond matrix sub-pixel
[3] Pentile non-diamond matrix sub-pixel

I know, since I have used all above said phones...

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 06:02 1

9. joey_sfb (Posts: 2894; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I saw the display in the retail and love it. Note 4 will have one that good enough for me.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 06:08 7

10. HugoBarraCyanogenmod (Posts: 134; Member since: 06 Jul 2014)


And that's why Samsung failed to sell just like exynos, you wanna exclusive? Fine, we'll give you exclusive , no lte love to your exynos.

XiaoMi Lenovo Huawei will soon eat your pie if you price your plastic too high

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:26 6

21. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8240; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Failed to sell? 50+ million S4's, 65+ million S3's, etc... Yeah, they suck at selling alright.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:32 1

24. mixedfish (Posts: 98; Member since: 17 Nov 2013)


The large majority and best versions of each of those phones were ones without the Exynos chips inside.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:43 2

27. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


WRONG! The top two best selling Samsungs in 2014 Q1 were the Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500 (Exynos 5 Octa) AND Samsung Galaxy S3 I9300 (Exynos 4 Quad) BOTH Exynos, both took 2nd and 3rd place respectively after the iPhone 5S:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-iPhone-5s-estimated-to-be-the-most-popular-phone-in-the-world-in-Q1-2014_id57956

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:34 3

25. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


I'm happy about that, its one of many things that differentiate Samsungs from others.
The SuperAMOLED on my GS4 still looks absolutely stunning after over a year, compared it to a friend's Z1 which looks super washed out and nasty compared to the gorgeous SAMOLED.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:34 1

26. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


I'm happy about that, its one of many things that differentiate Samsungs from others.
The SuperAMOLED on my GS4 still looks absolutely stunning after over a year, compared it to a friend's Z1 which looks super washed out and nasty compared to the gorgeous SAMOLED.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:55

28. tokuzumi (Posts: 272; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


I remember prior to the Galaxy S (first gen) coming out, Samsung was going to give first priority to their phones, and if they had capacity, sell to third parties. That was 4 years ago. The other manufacturers have since gone with other display tech, and have no need to change now. Plus, I think the AMOLED panels cost more than a traditional LCD of the same size/resolution. It's just a consequence of Sammy's business decisions from a few years ago.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 09:33 1

30. darksantacruz (Posts: 9; Member since: 09 Jun 2014)


I have one question if someone can answer: why there are not other companies putting on their phones Amoled Screens? We have Samsung, Nokia and Motorola, Lg but for TV's. Is it because of patents or what?

I'm asking this because I love Amoled Screens but I don't like Samsung phones, Nokia is just WP and there are no other WP manufacturares with WP and Amoled and Motorola phones don't have flagship specs.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 15:18

36. npaladin2000 (Posts: 132; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


I actually wouldn't mind an AMOLED screen provided it didn't require a purchase of TouchWIZ.

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