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Qualcomm: Snapdragon 810 won't power "a large customer's flagship device" - is that the Galaxy S6?

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Qualcomm: Snapdragon 810 won't power
Qualcomm today announced its financial results for the first quarter of fiscal 2015, posting revenue of $7.1 billion and a operating income of $2.1 billion. All's well here, but the chipmaker also said that it had lowered its outlook for the second half of fiscal 2015. One of the reasons for this is the "expectation that our Snapdragon 810 processor will not be in the upcoming design cycle of a large customer's flagship device."

Qualcomm doesn't provide further details on the issue, but we recently heard that Samsung would drop the Snapdragon 810 from its upcoming Galaxy S6 flagship - not because the 810 overheats, but simply because Samsung seemingly wants the new handset to be exclusively powered by its own octa-core, 14nm Exynos 7420 processor. Today's announcement from Qualcomm can probably be seen as a confirmation: the Snapdragon 810 and the Galaxy S6 won't roll together.

Qualcomm's Snapdragon 810 is already being used by LG (in its G Flex 2) and Xiaomi (in its Mi Note Pro). Other big smartphone makers will almost surely also rely on the 810 in the near future, though it's unlikely that any of them will order as many chipsets as Samsung would have done for its S6 (which, of course, is expected to reach millions of units sold in no time).

The good news, if we may put it this way, is that many Samsung fans don't seem to care about the fact that the S6 won't use Qualcomm's processor.

source: Qualcomm

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posted on 28 Jan 2015, 16:24 27

1. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


GOOD! 14nm heterogeneous 8 core sounds like innovation to me! screw snapdraggin

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 16:30 19

2. karim77 (Posts: 70; Member since: 10 Dec 2012)


Qualcomm is surely pissed of but they will never admit it

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 17:31

9. nimd4 (Posts: 9; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


What makes you say that, just because they will potentially lose-out on billions of dollars in profit next year.

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 16:32 21

3. tango_charlie (Posts: 277; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


As long as the phone preforms decent in real life tasks (browsing, gaming..) it can be powered by Granny Smith home-made soc as well.

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 16:49

7. rd_nest (Posts: 1618; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


^^ True

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 16:33 1

4. realjjj (Posts: 375; Member since: 28 Jan 2014)


Ofc it's Samsung, nobody else has a chip alternative.
Nvidia doesn't get into phones , Mediatek has 1 high end chip but not high end enough , Inetl is not there yet, Marvell isn't playing in the high end now.
So everybody besides Samsung can't do jack no matter how SD810 performs ,they don't want to buy from from Samsung so they are stuck with Qualcomm. Now maybe they learn their lesson and make sure to diversify their suppliers inthe future.

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 22:49

43. Niva. (Posts: 429; Member since: 05 Jan 2015)


Nvidia will look to put a modem on the followup to the x1. By then it will be a battle with intel too.

posted on 29 Jan 2015, 02:44

50. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1542; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Thre are loads of alternatives, what there aren't are BETTER alternatives. That's what points to Samsung, they are the only ones with a SoC that performs better than the 810 (at least in early benchmarks).
And they would love to have more suppliers, it's just that is nearl impossible... if one SoC manufacterer manages to create a better SoC than anyone it will become the "the facto" monipolistic provider. Happened to Intel in the PC, so it did with Qualcomm in the smartphones. I'm not sure there is a solution for that.

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 16:34 10

5. leotrim (Posts: 21; Member since: 01 Oct 2014)


Nice Job Samsung / Exynos 7420 14nm 8 cores.......

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 17:31 2

10. MySchizoBuddy (Posts: 155; Member since: 23 Aug 2011)


these are dual quad cores. only one set of quad cores runs at a time. All 8 cores never run at the same time.

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 17:42 5

13. Macready (Posts: 1264; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


Not true, the chip supports HMP, using all 8 cores at the same time.
See the official announcement (or the 5433 prior to it).

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 18:02 2

16. j2001m (Posts: 2993; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


100% all 8 cores at the same time, that's why it's listed in geekbenth and does big time damage, the 810 is real crap anyways going by any geekbenth listing, all 810 phones will be crap or will soon get an update

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 19:14 2

30. hung2900 (Posts: 958; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


It's true 8-core since Galaxy S5

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 16:36 7

6. mostafawael.1998 (Posts: 240; Member since: 01 Oct 2014)


Well this is a smart move from Sammy
exynos 14 nm SoC is a great headstart and is far much better than the 20 nm Snapdragon
but I hope that they have no production delays, and that they can produce many exynos chips, as one of the reasons that Samsung made a mix between Qualcomm and its chips is that Samsung wasn'tt capable of producing the Exynos chips is massive amounts
Let's wait and see the actual annoumcement
I am really more than excited for the galaxy S6 (edge)

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 18:04

17. j2001m (Posts: 2993; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


They not making any crap a8 or a8x and they opened new plants so they easy have room

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 17:30 1

8. sorcio46 (Posts: 435; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


I will jump this generation if Qualcomm will not be it, crappy closed source Exynos won't open my wallet.

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 17:33

11. nimd4 (Posts: 9; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


Interesting, tnx. Proprietary technology, in any shape-or-form is always something to -surely- avoid. =)

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 18:05 7

19. j2001m (Posts: 2993; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


There will be more roms for the s6 than all the other 810 phones added up

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 19:19

31. wargreymon (Posts: 754; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


Quality >> quantity. I'll rather take 1 very stable rom over 20 bugged ones

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 20:11

35. j2001m (Posts: 2993; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


I hope they sort out the 810 problems for you, you going to need them

posted on 29 Jan 2015, 00:25

46. wargreymon (Posts: 754; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


The rumors that there is no proof for? And please don't link any article about a lagging demo unit being constantly pushed at 100% brightness in a warm room.

posted on 29 Jan 2015, 02:54

51. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1542; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


There is not HARD proof, but the suspiction have started to pile up that the overheating issues in the 810 are more than just rumors.

Anandtech: "these demo phones were running in poor conditions for benchmarks, as maximum brightness was constantly reduced due to thermal throttling."

And the geekbench scores shows that 810 has lower scores than the Exynos5433 (forget the 7420 that is in a better fab node):
LG Flex 2:http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1708160
Note 4 (Exynos):http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1714607

Add to that the preliminary scores for the 7420 and you see why people are not dissapointed of not getting the Snapdragon 810 in the Samsung Galaxy S6

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 17:34 1

12. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


Time to buy their stock in the second half of 2015 when we see it dips.

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 17:42 2

14. NuRay (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Jan 2015)


It seems like 810 is a rushed product. Major shift to 64bit Socs must have suprised them at late 2013. If they had foreseen it they would have made 810 with Krait cores (or next generation custom ARM chip). I guess they'll try to make a come back with 820.

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 18:44

27. bur60 (Posts: 869; Member since: 07 Jul 2014)


You could say that, but Qualcomm was busy with 64 bit chips way before Android 64bit was announced, but yea 810 seems rushed

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 18:01

15. Derekjeter (Posts: 1001; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Ok so....what's the real difference between the 810 and Exynos? Seriously how much more can one out shine the other?

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 18:07

20. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 11698; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


USA carrier compatibility is one. The SD does better with graphics as well, less battery drain too.

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 18:09

21. j2001m (Posts: 2993; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Think sd 600 and 800 it's that type of an upgrade if not more, may be like going from 600 to 805 the 810 is very crap to they redesign it

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 18:31

25. medicci37 (Posts: 1303; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


No way! Graphics on the Exynos will be better than snapdragon because the shrink in die size compared to snapdragon. Also Samsung uses unmodified arm Mali graphics cores

posted on 28 Jan 2015, 19:21

32. wargreymon (Posts: 754; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


"Should be". We don't know the setup for the gpu that it will use.

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